This time our two heroes host an eclectic couple known as the grumpy old coders. Thomas, David, Martin and Chris discuss stealing, um, borrowing (and never giving back) of mottos and mascotts, programming languages including Java, Python and Rust woes and how they all arrived at podcasting. Never mind Chris revealing his true and only heritage and other little-known secrets. Don't miss out on this episode for the full lowdown (never mind the even lower down .
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