This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3,677 for Tuesday the 6th of September 2022. Today's show is entitled. Hacker Public Radio 2021-22 New Years Show Part 4. It is hosted by Hamedu and is about 194 minutes long. It carries an explicit flag. The summary is, the HP our community comes together to chat. What's going on here fireworks? Ooh! I like to sit there with me it's half a half four. Oh, right now it's 815 PM. 815. That's... It's 830 PM, so that's evening. Yeah, it's 830 PM, Joe. But I'm standing over here trying to move heavy things. Looking at the time on my computer. Yeah, it's 337, so yeah, if we want to be completely accurate. It's 937 PM here, 2137. And my watch says it's like a third signal, but it's not accurate, it's a bit in front of the actual time. It's 637 PM here in California and I'm definitely not going to make it to midnight. Yeah, I don't think I've made it to midnight. Josh, you all sound like you're about to fall asleep. Yeah, I think that's a true choice of apnea. Yep. If you want some tips and how to stay awake, I have lost them, well, a couple of them. First off, talk a lot, because then you won't feel thirsty, hungry, or tired, which is the one I'm employing right now. I've got to say that you're going to say either high doses of a caffeine or lots of lots of things. I don't. Yeah, they definitely be the math. Well, the whole problem we do here is he is staying awake and drinking and drinking is not conducive to staying awake, but the problem I do, guilty, well charged. Another way, like a caffeinated gum is to discount all the caffeinated stuff, because we know caffeine works, right? But it works only short term, long term, it's not that great, and then you need to ingest a loss of caffeine just to get it through tonight. This is something which has relatively little impacts apart from the fact that you're staying up all night. Um, so let me tell you, as you get older, it's actually easier to do an all-nighter. Problem is, is you're paying for it a lot longer. Yep, truth. Probably. Yeah. I've heard that well, warrior. It's not that hard for me, actually, right now, because I've got a couple of them already. Um, it, it, it, it's just that you need to know the trick, I like, I said talking already, but there is another way, and that, um, does have a greater risk of falling asleep, but that depends on what you're watching. If you're watching something, action-filled, an action-filled can literally just be Gallifant, like the first time I did this day up all night, or was when I was watching Gallifants, and Gallifants isn't the most scary thing. There's a lot of singing, but it has action, and there has some stakes, and it was watching it for the first time, and I was like, um, I, I, I, I, I thought it was pretty cool. I found the easiest way to like stay up all night, not realize you've stayed up all night is to have a really, really large book that's actually interesting. Yeah, but if you have something that's actually interesting, for instance, the first time I tried, I tried watching time team, absolutely riveting thing. It's about our geology and stuff, and it's really cool, but if nearly fell asleep, so I changed it to stuff, and now I've got, um, the bad batch, uh, right up there, um, yeah, I've got some troubles with, um, Star Wars rebels, uh, season two, like, yeah, but I've just got the rebels up there, uh, no rebels, I've got a bad batch up there, stuff, uh, should probably turn off, but I'm busy talking, shanaking, turned off, um, the, the, the, the, the, the headphones, Bluetooth headphones, um, a keyboard, and just the screen, just turn everything off. Yeah. Up there. Screen already. Yeah. Debating if I should still go to bed or not, it's 24. No, you shouldn't go to bed anymore. It's too late. No. You should just turn it off, or you could watch it. That's another option, but then you should also watch the Clone Wars, which, like, that would also make you stay up. It's already turned itself off. Okay. Great. Yeah. Cause, uh, I, I was actually just watching it, but then I was like, you know, I'll have a quick chat and maybe come back later, and then I didn't, and yeah, but I, I, I, from what I've seen of the bad batch so far, quite like it, and I've seen the whole Clone Wars and I quite like it. Does anyone have any, does anyone like Star Wars here as well? Well, I'd prefer to watch the Mandalorian. Oh, I already watched the Mandalorian. Oh, the book about the set is up now, too. The first episode. Yeah. Yeah. We watched it. Yeah. It was cool. It was confusing. I'd be, but, you know, it's might not be if, if I've watched a loss of explanation videos on a lot of things. Maybe it's not confusing if you've watched it. He's doing three different time periods and bouncing back and forth, and you have to keep figuring out which time periods they're in right now. Ah. And, and how to use it. How to use it. And how to use it. Boba is. Oh. Like, uh, like Clone Wars does that also. Um, like first, it's not not that bad because you think it's in the same time frame basically. And it's kind of the same time frame I think, but it's like sometimes it just, um, goes between stuff. Like, if, like, for instance, if a major character has died, then we don't go back to see what that major character did before. Well, Star Wars movies would have been a lot more interesting if he'd have let the actors know what they were doing. Because they didn't get a chance to really do any acting because they were just doing a scene and doing another scene and doing a different scene. He didn't have him in order. He didn't have anyone know what their motivation was. He were just supposed to go read the lines. Which, um, which, which, which trilogy we're talking about. We're talking, uh, four, five, six and one, two, three. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. But they're not too bad. They turned out really well. Uh, they could have better. They could have better. They could have better well. Could have been better. They paid all these actors so much money to do nothing but read your lines and not know why you're reading them. Yeah. Could have been better. But to be honest, um, this might be, um, some, but I think Anakin was very accurate in the prequel. And that is how someone with zero society with, like, who likes someone. But who has zero, like, zero, um, the, the social skills, social skills. That's how they would act. They would, well, if, if from Anakin's, uh, if, like, Anakin's, uh, surroundings, also influenced it. But like, because it was accurate that doesn't make the movies not suck. No, I like the movies. I like, the thing is, I'm younger than revenge of the Sith. By a couple months, same year, but like, I'm younger than revenge of the Sith. I always had these prequel's and stuff. So I, I might not have known the full plos of it. Like, I did with the original trilogy because people kept spoiling it. Because they assumed I'd have watched something from the 80s. Even though, um, I didn't know. I hate to tell you this, but, um, Star Wars is fairly in the 80s. Yeah, yeah, well, still 80s, still. Well, I remember seeing episode four first run before they even called it episode four. And, uh, it was just Star Wars. That's all it was. And, you sit in the front row of that theater and here come the lettering and then the ship's going right over your head. And you're going, ah, and that was special, but they still didn't have any acting worth writing on them about. Wasn't that, uh, late 70s, Moss? Yeah, late 70s. Yeah, I think it was 78. Yeah, that even produced me by a year. About a couple of years. Yeah, kids. Think to last one. Yeah, well, I was still in my first marriage pretty early in it. And she was taking her students, uh, to go see it. And I went with them one time. I literally just watched it because my friend kept trying to keep spoiling it. Like, all grounds going to blow up. But you see, I'll never go over your head on the screen. And it's a whole different thing. Yeah. Well, did anyone bother with the new matrix, by the way? I watched movies on the original matrix. You must see, like, I watched movies. No one talks about it, but not the movies. And then one actually talks about that's why I watched all MCU in the summer, which, by the way, took me a long time because it did watch from 2008 to nowadays. There's all the movies. I don't know. I don't know. This way in other countries. But like, the MCU is like, I swear to God, like 90% of what's in theaters. Now, I'd actually like those movies. But like, that in headaches or why I stopped going the theater. But I did actually see the latest matrix because the company I worked for basically, at least where I was, say, hey, whoever, you know, we're just going to run out of this, like, tiny non-profit theater. And whoever. What's Irish TV show? I've, I know, is Father Ted and I love it. And apparently, it's only from the 90s, which, like, it could be from any period. It's like the technology kind of gives us a way, but I'm not that old. So I don't know. I have trouble placing it. What? Making me feel old here, man. Well, maybe. Well, I feel sometimes, and I am only, I'm less than two decades old. So yeah, when I, if I feel old, that means that everyone, everyone all in and me probably is old. I like that. I usually joke that people, like, if they're, like, even second older, like, like, a sense of me to short, is that they're, like, old or they're, they're, like, short. It's not funny if they're actually old or short. It's funny when they're, like, when they're still, like, considered either young or when they're, like, everyone there just, well, I'm more than twice your age. Yeah. So I doesn't stop people making fun of me because I'm, like, five feet. But I don't work that way over Zoom, but the people in there, like, holy crap, you're short. And I was like, yes, thank you. Yes, you're short. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry and it's like it's fine everyone more to use it It would be fine roughly if it would be fine if literally just everyone except Netherlands used it then I would be absolutely fine with with stuff but like I I Well did he was created by Gary Gagax in the 70s and I'm pretty sure he was American so Yes, but now used by people from all over the world I know you can't be useful sometimes because sometimes you know some specific fact But you only know it in metric so you can just imagine that it's the same size even though it Actually isn't if you would convert it Americans are pretty selfish. You know so 5v is 1.524 meter Yeah, well apart from my grievances would fit. It's not actually that bad if you just tell me afterwards Yeah, I just have to say that just not too That doesn't necessarily I'm you're a PM. I have a few things I find myself talking to not I have been using the European Union to complain about about a non-metric stuff Yeah, you said you have to complain about at least three times a year Yeah, and and and and say that that That good health care that the the Europe has good health care That's also something after city. It's for quiet. Sorry. We get told that you guys don't really have Good health care or that if you do have health care the Weight times are so long to get anything done that will I will waiting and we don't want to talk about the fact that they take a long time here to Yeah, might bankrupt you Yeah, may I point that I I do actually like if I think that if I lived in America if I grew up there I don't think we'd have enough money for all the stuff which I needed for me to just function as a As a normal person, and I don't have it that hard. I just have trouble with my guitarics that that's it Sherman I just want scrappy back crappy guitarics and and I know I'm autistic that's basically the three main things Look my kids all have well my middle child has different sets of medical issues But dyslexia dysgraphia trying to get them proper education is difficult enough But my middle child has a tumor that is like right next to her brain on her eye She's an optic nerve essentially and MRIs at least twice a year always with New glasses she has multiple chemical sensitivity. So anything can set off for allergies She's required to carry an epipen everywhere she goes along with a slew of Medications that help keep her alive and and it's okay Yeah, it's extremely difficult to keep ahead of Pain for all of that I was talking to you Hey someone who lived in Kansas in America and then moved to the Netherlands and he actually said because we're trying to think of America It's like the entrepreneur the he said it was actually easier to freelance in Europe if for no other reason then You can't get bankrupted by medical costs. I had a lunch group I was talking with and they're all like very American libertarian like they're very like and it actually been to Europe And they claim that Europe sucked basically like they just like the basically wine about Europe and I told them about that guy And they lost their minds But I tried to ask them I was like okay, well, how would we do it here? Like let's assume yes the Europe's Pete Europe sucks, but then so does America So how can we do it and they couldn't give me an explanation so it's very much like an e-o thing here Like I think at this point and there's like a lot of my peers really want like this single pair of healthcare system right now Which I don't think's realistic and It doesn't but like here. I think we just don't want admit that we like done it long for really long No, there's so much money involved with our with our healthcare system. I mean we pay And cost in any other countries that I'm aware of even with insurance. We pay those higher costs And we're paying insurance on top of that. There's a lot of people making a lot of money off of us doing the way things are done now Which is why I'm there influencing your governments, which is why you'll never have change Yeah, this thing that's why every that's why in every argument on the internet People from Europe always give that thing because we think it's just such a basic fact of life They you if you have something like If you have someone who has a tumor like that's something the government has to pay for That's not something you can pay for yourself. That's something which happened and isn't your fault? Communism is what they what we would call it And we would have to find communism or socialism. I'll never tell that you just The thing of America is that We are like raised from the ground up Even if we're kind of on the more liberal and progressive side. We are raised from the ground up to be incredibly distrustful in the government And we're very big on like self-reliance. I think it's carryover from kind of like the pioneers men kind of mentality And I admit that sometimes when I talk to other Europeans I kind of find myself also having a little bit of it But I at least can kind of step back and say okay, you know, here's what I'm used to But here's maybe the best way I tend to agree with actually a lot of other Americans on like like I think the government's good at certain things But not a lot of other things, but health care is the one where I'm like yeah No, that probably I definitely would trust it more to the government in companies because I think what a lot of Americans here Miss or at least the more conservative ones is that like it's right now companies controlling a lot of things Yeah, and they really don't care Like you can argue Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Let's go out here. They basically companies are worse. Yeah, they basically come up with this government here Like they run for them, but they are the carries in the health care. No, yeah, I'm playing about the entire Insurance system because well, it sucks and but then they want to also complain about you know a Government run system because that socialism mechanism Exactly, but regular insurance is groups of people paying against a possibility and they're paying small amounts over a long period of time And those small amounts end up going to Well profit mostly, but a large chunk of that goes to a one or two individuals who get really sick But that's the exact same idea behind the Socialistic medicine the socialized medicine Yes, excuse me. Excuse me. We missed our can we missed an hour here You hear me someone else we can yeah, we hear you So I use that to mess with people I liked in all the time. There was a guy that was like because the big thing here is we don't like redistribution of wealth Like that's a big kind of trigger here for a lot of Americans and so big some guy was going on Like then about redistribution of the other I was like well, what do you think about insurance and he actually didn't like insurance either Which at least he was consistent on good credit for that, but I use that to mess with them. I was like okay, so We don't want redistribution of wealth. We hate tax and we hate so how do you feel about insurance? And they just they get so mad at me. It's so funny. No, I can't wait to have a market to move Well, it all goes up. Yeah If you got rid of the Anyway, I think argument that if you got rid of insurance it would actually force the Medical market to normalize to where people could actually afford it. I agree. Yeah I wanted to interrupt. We did miss the 10 o'clock. It was my time So somebody maybe they're in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean just passed into the new year five minutes ago Yay New year Be the late new year And I also wanted to say Joe. I can make you feel young um when I was in junior high They published the second paperback edition, which is the first authorized edition of order the rings and they were 95 cents a book Okay, okay, that was long ago You win that's very long ago like north of the rings movie Well, long ago. Oh, shut up Blood of the raise movie was like I'm waiting to move right I thought it was so well the book but but the movie's not Books are great and amazing. No, no, oh, but I can book the two towers that book is perfect if you have a severe case of insomnia and you want to pass out by the end of the first chapter No, I very much into description more than any other author. He does a better not a bit than any other author Lord, I go lord. I go lord go lord. I love the Hobbit the Hobbit was Talkin's best book, but Recently there's a free and show to his kids He wrote that for his kids and they hated it. Yeah. I like it. I read the Hobbit like several times My dad keep trying to get you to read the rest of the Lord the rings. I was like now Some people they are completely different works. I hate the Hobbit and I fell in love with Lord and the rings and read it 20 times before I was out of high school. Well, I've read the wheel of time series probably 20 times now Maybe 20 times. I've heard a loss of the wheel of time. Well, I haven't read it But I am watching the series about the wheel of time never heard about wheel of time. I actually Anyway, I've heard it from one fat one channel in YouTube and from you that's basically where heard it from now the wheel of time series that's on Amazon I'm sure it's a great series. I've tried watching it and my dad really liked it and I really wish I could sit down and watch it But it's it's so Different fundamentally different from the books that it just trips me up when I try to watch it Joe, what did you tell me about watching the Dresden TV show? Yeah, you had to let it go. You had to let the story go and I understand that and I tried and I tried When it came to the wheel of time on Amazon Yeah, I had similar experience with a version of the thing from Terri Pratchett. So Like you Yeah, I was going to say Garth or I bad was it Garth's Garth's Garth's Garth? I know It was something the watch it was the watch it was the watch it was the watch it was the watch it was No, it's not the book this series so there's a series Uh, called the watch and I watched them. I got my hands on it and I had a look at it I and my parents Really know the books and love the books and there I would suggest reading all 41 of the books and then all the other books He has written because they're all amazing well apart from Just a tip you don't have to read one and two first because they are apparently But pre-calls written before the story like I before the rest of the story I didn't know that and that's very useful information because He definitely Spikes in quality right after those two like there are a couple books which are very chaotic But basically that series like the opposite but I get to that in a second going that series changed so much of really Good stuff. They could have just like gone per book or did something like There are ways of turning the watch Like all the the watch arc basically of the disc world into a series and it was very well And good almonds is a series based off of a book of turtleneck and new game and good series Yeah, good book good series and it's I do have to see the movie of the color of magic color of magic Yeah, that's the first First book was it very I'm talking about the movie was the movie very chaotic That's what I'm asking because I haven't seen a movie. I've read the book and the book was very chaotic Well, you should see the movie just for our girls and sake. Yeah, I'll I'll have a look if I can see the movie somewhere But yeah There's a Sir purchase really good who are I was actually read the books of their purchase? I haven't read all of them There's sure I probably only read 12 or 14 of them myself. Yeah, I probably haven't read that many I read all of them all at leery times same I'm actually on a kind of diet for the second year now of Um of a no tear projects for me because I read them all and then a read them all for second time and then I was like Okay, I have to stop before this isn't fun anymore Because after two years of reading it for half a year It kind of gets you kind of know what's going on and what's going to happen? And I don't actually want that because I really enjoyed the books and they're really good And that's why I read them for a second time I got burnt out on the Dresden files which one the Dresden file is not right Yeah, that's not practice, but no the Dresden files is currently what a 15 book series 16 16 book series and I know that Moss is reading it because I kind of you know It's going to be 21. It's done. Yeah, according to Wikipedia there are 41 discworld novels as well as a number of short stories Yes, I'm a friend of all four teachers and there's a number of other novels other than just yeah That were great I've read the one about poo. I've read the where's my cow, but those are both like like stories set within this world and And I've read a bunch of other books he read he's written. I've read the Johnny saga. I've read the familiar The ad. I've read The reboot the read did a carpet people. I've read a couple of short stories from his From his earlier career Which are like turn their two books of that and I've read those Dodgers, Nathan, that can stuff Um, the only ones I didn't read are like long-world and I couldn't stuff but my dad said that crap so And I'm really very terribly proud to see so yeah So is it does is there a bunch of is there a bunch of books that he hasn't that he didn't release before he died? I just came back in well book 41 was released after his death so he was basically Um, I didn't know for certain. He he if you look at the release dates He released a book about every year He is not L. Ron Hubbard. He did not continue writing after his death. No But he did I was a little confused because Moss Moss said something about it. Be 21 after it was it was done or something I don't know Dresden is going to be 20 when he's done And the death was forty by it will actually end up being there when we're going to do 20 books and then I think a pocket I'm watching well Laptop issues. In fact, I yeah Well, I support one of those small Linux businesses about a year ago and Nice idea set to laptop I got Had put out a few problems from the beginning really and then it got worse Like my internal sound breaking when I played YouTube for example And then it freezes up sometimes I was not done it for well But when I was on the earlier just at the end there it just all froze up for the most part again And then the batteries all stuck inside so I have to let it basically pair off and die And then it's okay again Well, I need to show you a fix it Do you know a trick to fit make or I die? What destroy are you running? It is But it's a button to you, but it has a PPA where to go. You've changed a little bit as well Say lucky mate improved the harm by I was where we does Well, the improvements may have been are what's breaking your machine It might it might be it might be a sister it might be that his PPA doesn't work as well Is he said it's done with another PPA Joe? Oh, yeah, usually they call it a different another district although have you checked the wards is the city wall still Oh, I didn't know absolutely make sense of the fall sound that was probably a separate shoe like the Like the YouTube video went correctly. It is February. Oh, I thought I could send a laptop back But I don't want to because I will be on lots of zoom meetings this pandemic I've got to use a slap top four kinds of things. I've been on a computer a bit too much And last two years because of yeah, and And and and now it might be okay. One year one to use going got another guy who fixes laptops if I was totally stuck But I'm it kind of works, but it doesn't completely work and Main thing is the internal sound doesn't work since that YouTube video web it went correctly and it just sort of Peony stopped And it can and it can freeze up sometimes like earlier. It sort of repeats itself Like it might be ram issue because he said that the guy got it from might be the ram inside the laptop Let's go a bit loose, but I don't know and then it And you tried if you tried loan or boating a different district maybe from a USB Well, so when it power is off It it it's like it's not but it's not power off completely or laminated keyboard So like that's still this up when it does that and you can see the power buttons But I that's but that was it. I can't do anything until it died But luckily I was in about 30-3% earlier so I thought right I'll have a break then But now we'll so later I cut which is now I'll come back I guess if it's working The laptop so is the battery in turn? Yes, well, yeah, it's under a little squeeze. I'm not gonna be sitting now and screwing the laptop for that Well, if you're wanting to make sure whether it's hardware to software to ram stick to them and see the same problem For real separate Oh, it would life see you be mean. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'll say Yeah, but I might be worth a try actually, but I don't know I mean I think my sound issue is probably this is actually broken But I know what are broken if they were crackling and it's most likely that the speakers themselves are broken Yeah, well, yeah, because because I I'm using it now right headset that's fine I can also stream music via Bluetooth to a different device I've got that works But obviously internal sound I can't play I can't play any videos when you think it gets sound So I shouldn't speak because of broken back in February Probably an easy fix Hardware wise Whole bunch of magic to me. I don't if you think about it technology like what you're talking about right now Sounds like alter nonsense to me like I can understand a couple words But it It's a bit It's a bit hard to understand for anyone who isn't active leave So yeah, I'm not like magic now. I remember now. You know, you know as techie as we yeah Yeah, they're working still, but very surface level on this I thought we were just talking about the simple things. Yes, well, yeah simple simple things I'm doing air quotes. You can't see it because it's sound, but I'm doing air quotes simple I understand some words. I am not completely oblivious to all things technology, but close close enough I Infernally readily accessible as soon as you open the thing up and it's literally going to be a two-prong connector for both of them But this is broken inside you. I can no I figured the speakers are blown but Probably the okay now. We're going to get more complicated. There's a little gain on top of the foil That's like really super long that runs in the middle of the speaker and most likely that is popped somewhere in the middle It's just a place that they probably have popped because I'll tell you what I did as well I was telling my my tech friend this and he said like well in a way. It's your fault Then and I was like really but I've done this on another laptop and I've had this problem So yeah, I was playing like some metal or rock or something on YouTube though Back in February, right? Serpent didn't come out. It didn't sound as good on laptop Like it doesn't all we do on laptops. So I went into the Pabu control, you know, pulse audio and I up to sound past 100% to about 153% and that's I've done another laptop No problem. But this laptop Let's start with a crackle and then it and then it went Yeah, so you missed let me let me try for let's assume that there are people like me Who might not understand everything technical and which is totally fine by the way that you're going to do Technical so it's HPR after all. It's expected But so what you're saying is is that you missed with the thing Past the limit where you're supposed to mess with it and then it broke and so it's your fault that it broke as you missed with the thing You're not supposed to mess with Be so well kind of a sceptor sceptor sceptor I wouldn't completely agree with that because I would do it because in what I went into it the sound settings and you can up it past 100% as in the normal It says the sound might get distorted or it might actually sound best so when you do that And normally a laptop is okay with that It looks like the impedance of the speakers Wicked my age of the speaker Yeah, yeah, he does the thing like it's not really your fault for doing it How unless you like this the laptop and figs and change it the thing is to yeah, and that's your Elefing this laptop supposed to be brand new or but you're about year old because I I know then then it makes sense Yeah, if you're supposed to be able to mess with the thing and Even though it might be risky and you're supposed to be able to mess with it No problem and the thing is also New then it then it makes sense Yeah I yeah, it costs about that's clear before if you don't know Cost about five hundred quid on it's own before I upgrade it slightly so I put more of a got more ram for example and I Got more space on the SSD and it was like full gigabyte ram by default so I would be able to purchase Speakers for that model Yeah, we're ultimately low cost and it should not be hard to replace them. No, yeah I'm a bit like I couldn't you do I try and send it back by didn't really want to do that Why do get my other guy and lemme fix it now? But oh, it's some stage Just a little bit for straighting though And also the freezing thing. I don't know why it does mic occasionally do that Well, and it kind of copies on the menu that like repeats everything it's like in the you're all in the address bar You know on the web well web page if I put down the letter a or types of me in it because of repeat that And it used to repeat everything on down the menu on gloom as well The answer is install Linux Mint and two app Yeah, I doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with the I mean that it sounds like there's some wrong operating systems Well, I said for the speech that the speaker is below the speaker issue is probably set pro that's probably was me because of Whoever or is a hardware that will just be because one good enough in machine in the first place But yeah, the other thing well, but you're having you're also having like the everything Studying and the with the videos freezing, right? Right, but We're working previously now. It could technically have been an update that caused the driver issue where there's a conflict between a 3.5 millimeter Port and your internal speakers and the mouse can freeze sometimes to For forever reason like it. Yeah, I mean it's just just install Linux Mint real quick and see what Why are we saying mint? There was a there's just a mint guy. We had them earlier I am a mint guy. I'm one of the hosts on the mic. Yeah, yeah, yes, so any time you're having problems with machine Mint will pick the most of them Yes, the answer is almost always install me Like is called a driver's bill in as well more so always it just because he likes me I'd like me Almost just every mind running out there says the same thing If your computer isn't working right I'm willing to try my cat This just reminds me of like in the indeed there's this late joke doing that Hey, if you're in a troubling situation and you're spellcaster just cast fireball Not gonna get bad happens when you cast fireball I get this one fix some somehow well enough, so but There was not a little step as I can out loud. Oh, that could be interesting Comes out at the end of January as well between Starlapse some sort of small UK one I think They've got like a look uh, of course some laptops that were already but they coming out with like a 14 inch one and then also like an 11 inch one black and that book but better Uh, or and it's not yeah, it leaves me cheap I think for the price and you can upgrade that slightly to like let's change a powerport Well, it's a more ram or SSD or space or something It's good man go What's that? I'm gonna use the deal I have yet to find a deal laptop that I couldn't install in the front oh Dell uh, I'll take up one for sale in the UK but it was like my friend told us that the last look Our last look for a lug meeting in December right because we did this got mentioned and it was about 4,000 pounds or something stupid out Yeah, yeah, I'm like it's hidden away. It's under being a business laptop and it's there Here's in the way kind of thing and it was like Or one thousand two but I know it was more than a Mac basically And you think that and it was like really oh it's got a nice Nvidia graphics card possibly or some pin but It's like it was like really Gaming laptop I don't know I'm just told you they're still in the way there, but there's a slightly upper keyboard if it's gaming and up to no No, all gaming all gaming things should have a should have lighting up your parts I got a little bit of an up keyboard on this laptop, so it's nice. You can change the colors and things, yeah I haven't got a little of keyboard, but a good little headset upstairs in my uf you'll set up This is my dad set up which has like open mic thingy where if I do this you might hear it I know did anyone hear anything Yeah, yeah, I was I was just touching to mic something I used to do to my headset And there are some Bluetooth keyboard balls that are bought separately a USB that were lists up and things as well I'm just seeing one on the plane somewhere once and I'm like well that's looking nice. I want that Oh keyboard like that and I got one Wasn't I say with Dell Hp and the Nouveau and Ace is a good one to kind of just sort of change the subject a bit here But but it's delayed to Dell because something mentioned Dell I, you know Dell Hp Lenovo, Ace Aceus, all those and I've been wanting to know the big All those big laptop computer companies that how I see it as this Hp as well How I see it and I've got laptops making issues from Hp originally and I've got that two But that's the side point but how I see it as this all those companies They just don't care about Linux, not seriously they do Some of them have super computers or servers with Linux because that's where the big money is, right? But for like the dust off the home, you can see the consumer they couldn't care about this disagree with you right there when it comes to Dell because Dell is one of the few companies that actually releases a full on Linux laptop and that's the Dell XPS 13 developer edition. Yeah, hang on has a key word, right? That's the developer edition. Yeah, yeah, but it means like this is They still conventionally released, not not normal people, right? It's still going to work with Ubuntu and as a matter of fact most of their laptops and especially their tablets work with Linux I have two problems installing any version of Linux on to Dell tablet either the venue 11 take your pick on the model number or the Dell Latitude. All right. Yeah, now you don't have enough. However if I don't need to I'm not the one I could load up by now A Dell UK site or Merit or whatever but if I if I'm just looking for a laptop I'm just a usual person. Let's say right don't really know much about computers. I know a bit But I'm looking for a laptop. I used to Dell website me But then say you but if you like yeah, it could be you if you want Probably although you're dazzling to the next you do have some kind of idea what Linux is unlike most people But yeah, that's not my point quite either however the usual person let's say looking for laptop It goes to the Dell website HP as well. They're not going to find a little laptop. They're going to find the Windows laptop Yeah, and that's how it is. I would look for Linux stuff. I thought you were going in that direction You thought I was going into yeah, I didn't know it's hard to follow a conversation if you only understand half the words It's like if I started speaking English right now combination between Dutch and English It's first of it'd be very hard because I'm not in that mindset right now, but I've been talking English for a couple hours. Yeah, but Must have seen spring in the chat. Yes, so you know is computer machine the one I've got now You know it's like that that got got us like a like a Roman Roman version of a Or was a name can remember I'm tired probably offended her just now who knows no one that was on earlier Yeah, do you know is that is that's Roman goddess, right? I didn't know there's bosses linked to some of the UK limits companies So I said I said the machine them on there was a You know, yeah, I think they get I think the actual laptop is maybe a Comes come and bring it comes from somewhere else in Taiwan and I think he buys in a web as he'd then breathe ran That was something But yes, do you know computers this one? Yeah, yeah, Clevo that was it. Yeah, Clevo Must in the chat so they get like a Clevo thing Rebrand it was something but yeah, do you know computers is what I bought here? Then there's entro where will we stay, which I know about anyway? That was like old camp sponsors and things Um, yes, Juno does come from mythology and it's also One of them loons Uh, and there's a Yeah, but the moon of Saturn is named after the goddess that's the thing anything astrology where you're like it's also Astrology like it's mythology, but also astrology all this astrology stuff is named a astronomy And there's a book from Spain yet when I'm about that as well laptops or laptops And there's the salsa UK and there's maybe one more that we're forgetting or something But I was just here to be annoying interrupt and to remind you that there are people out there who might not know what they're doing But what what what's going on and that's totally fine by way if I if I interrupt like this Just continue talking except if I want to make a point That's fine if you want to talk as well at some point isn't that yeah, it's a conversation I'm I'm being annoying which is what I do in conversations I just got tired of being I was talking over someone or being talked over so I've just been posting things in the chat You're used to podcast with an excessive number of hosts Anyhow the other one as I posted in chat is Tuxedo in Germany Most of them are Cleo machines, but they do a lot of work to them. They don't just get the machine and put their brand on it The biggest thing is apparently there's a problem with some of the Wi-Fi Models and the modules in them and they have to completely replace those and that's usually a nice soldering job a lot of Companies don't take cleavos and then just rebrand them. Does the Wi-Fi works on this laptop, but it seems and I go blue too as well May I just say if anyone if anyone ever has trouble with me talking too much just do the exact same Wouldn't have advised anyone to do this with anyone else but me, but do the exact same as I do I will usually If we're talking over each other and that can't over power though the person I'll let the person speak and then Tell my thing later on Especially if I'm talking for hours now Yeah, that's why I do sometimes I'm just talking about Salvador Or you sometimes want to get back on something because it doesn't mean it's a subject to you Like I want to make a point for for for for at least more than a quarter of an hour But I'm I'm I'm just waiting and waiting until the correct point to make it Yeah, don't forget what you're going to talk about them. Oh, no. I already I've already once I already I already thought you guys were going to talk about some technical stuff probably and I already knew I was going to save this long before I even yeah I think might even be from before December. So yeah I have been saving up this year because people don't don't don't want to talk to me that often don't want to talk to me enough So yeah, I was talking to you. It's just four hours of non-stop talking sometimes have other stuff to do Where's West cinead from what was the name is? Shnade and my sister I I did think it might be new sister. I wasn't sure Um, I I announced sir when she came in you might not have been there Right, okay. I got to you in that case one and do is this right one my I got a question for either you both can answer and And you seem to be want to be talking about something else you can mention afterwards You'll turn how after that however my first question is My question is this right apparently the Netherlands is in another lockdown So I read somewhere tell me about that. Oh, yeah, she maybe I'll be able to tell you most about it because she Actually, she's gonna have a real job. She's not like doing school stuff Basically with me. It's just that while there's no lockdown We are having one each year apparently. It's gonna be a new tradition But yeah, I'm not very into the whole news thingy on the Crown variant stuff. I'm pretty sure and Um week week week of basically not good enough government Lots of should not be in charge anymore, but that's just my opinion. I can't focus. So yeah Yeah, pretty much for Only a lot of war not lower at the socials except if you're in an exam year or like me Yeah, to be honest, not the worst because then at least I'll be I'll be able to have more I'll be able to learn more than I would online Because they expected to know as much They did they did that here last year, right in England in the end well I've probably the whole of UK actually got them well Northern Ireland I think as well, but that definitely England, but the flop but the thing is every year, right? There are two lots of major exams that happen depending on the age you are So if you're 16 or 15 to 16 you're going to be doing a GCSEs You're a year 11 and then and then which I'll Pretty important to get your grades and knows ideally as well and then and then people tend to do the A levels after that If they want to get university and things, right? But because they cancel all the exams and All the exams, what can someone that was locked down and everything and the coursework is only part of it Basically in the end it was based on The teachers faking the grades basically by Doing using the predicted More grades and so some people got better grades than they would have got None has got really cool grades and complained about it Yeah, I swear everyone just passed well everyone everyone got to grade it on in the first time they did they had the exam so Luckily there were luckily for schools there were already a bunch Oh, the way it goes is that there's like big exams at the end of the year, but then for half there's the other half is like Normal Testants of during the year So they just counted all the stuff during the year as your final exam thingy I'm basically If I had that now I'd pass with nearly everything And then they got rid of the education minister in the end because he wasn't much good to be fair But yeah, that's a bit of a I don't know I'm I'm glad I didn't have to do any of that and the whole mess in school thing as well Which lot of them had to do in things or social distance in the classroom or have your support bubble absolutely mess Can't Maybe have to wear a mask when you walk around the hallways Not supposed to socialize where people outside your bubble in the school or whatever it was Absolutely mess yeah, but what I want to say is Related to well the whole techy conversation from before which is why I wasn't too first about Basically talking earlier It was basically if you think about it like technology is very much like magic and this is very useful for people like my dad who doesn't understand Well, or refuses to understand sometimes. I didn't know it's hurt to tell sometimes Like fantasy stuff like Star Wars is fantasy Um, you can't you can't argue on that. It's just fantasy You're just stating Clark's second law here. Could argue that it's sci-fi What's the second law? Yeah, you can argue that it's sci-fi, but it's it's like fantasy in space if you There are like medieval versions of the songs and they usually have like Uh, art of like Jedi if they were not if they were actual nights and they look really like exactly the same And they literally mean exactly the same it would it wouldn't change that much if Technology Technology well It's not really my I mean it kind of is like magic when it works It let you know your screen like so it sounds like magic you turn your phone on when you're computer And you're greeted by all this fashy like light that it's not just light Then you look what actually goes on and you click around and there's like there's like Magic brick where there's like yeah, we'll get to where it doesn't work in the chat Some people there And it just and it works and you got all light lit up stuff and there's menus and there's programs All kinds of magic yeah a magic brick with all the lines of the music and do all don't need power Yeah without power you get nowhere Actually, yeah As I said, we're we're just talking Clark second law any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Yes, and we're ready to start point well Clearly you nearly it depends on how What can I say knowledgeable you are about it because when it doesn't work we call it my next project When it works Well What happens when magic doesn't work you're like I'm talking about from a perspective of someone who doesn't have a clue about how it works Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't try Because like let me let me just put this in perspective. I'm just a normal like normal guy who just I happen to be friends with a bunch of mages, right and you guys are a bunch of mages who know all about magic and and love to tell me about magic and stuff and And they love to tell you about magic because you too can be a wizard Yes, but it takes a lot of time and and I'm supposed to be a wizard and I might want to be like a Hey, it can be Harry Potter. Well, if you too can be a wizard what about you be 40 of what? I don't think they got the reference mass You can be Harry Potter, but what was I saying? Yeah, so when it doesn't work It's just it's just a abusive break basically when your phone is not charged up It's just a black thing horrible looking thing when you learn the top of the work it's this Not only talk as well, but you guys are making me smile. Okay. Yeah, I think about electronics that need fixing and I don't have any Nice, I think this laptop needs it could do with a few little fixes as I already mentioned But if you want to mail it to me, I will work on it. I've got a box sitting here that I should have made all three of you months ago Yeah, and but like when a normal person who doesn't know anything about like technology stuff Um, and when their phone breaks or just something like my computer has some like weird things It does sometimes it doesn't happen very often, but usually I just try things and hope it works like I know for a context like turning it off non again that might work, so Well, then you have to just The thing isn't just a whole new technology. Sorry. That's what this thing that's you fit how that's basically how how how a normal person would Use magic and technology and I say we already reached a point where I'll tell you what some people do Work the laptops don't work right and I've said I know somebody who's done this unfortunately With at least two laptops and this is what you don't do the laptop right but some people do this They seriously do this do never do this with a laptop seriously Yeah, all with a phone or a tablet or any of them never do it, but yeah I mean if you accidentally if accidentally your tablet falls in the bin or something that's A little bit different however some people really do just do just that The laptops got hard with problems. It doesn't pair on it. It doesn't work They just chuck out in the black bin bag. Go buy a new one. Yeah, it's not a tracer lamp. Some people do that instead of sending it to Joe like they sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah One one girl who I spoke to online before years ago She she she she threw one in the bin and beverage it up in Scotland and pretend to tell me that Don't do that either because the thing is put these devices are made out of plastic and they made out of Other moons as well. My nose and and it's just not beautiful to environment It's just like with magic if you use magic wrong you kids you create either chaos man like like like Indiany there's like There are two types of bad magic zones. There's basically like Uh, where magic goes haywire and it's okay all stuff over there's dead magic and there's no magic and magic can't be used Yes, throwing batteries in most places is absolutely illegal and um there are uses for batteries most dead batteries can be at least partially resuscitated Now there are times when you shouldn't do that, but you should always dispose of batteries properly Yes, but the thing is the the thing we were talking about is like technology all this Linux stuff It sounds like magic. What if they explode it? Well, that just magic explodes stuff right that's like isn't that a thing? Which is oh yeah, yeah, I'm coming down a chat from Slees says sizzling and and yeah, I'm I'd be able to find a you Post exploded battery. Yeah, well, well, well, well, hang on hang on right so me said Yeah, she said if you put it Polish shouldn't take them in the bath where do you either to that topology? Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, especially if it's plugged in charged as well It's just like magic if you take if you take a dragon with you in bath Drag my nut like it and then my diet or like um ascension magic I to me which was sleeping You might not know that and then whoops now now it might not like the water and then you're dead or like Um for instance, you might just pick up around them acts think like oh, this is a good acts And the axe then they're tuned with it and oh look suddenly you've you look like a dwarf This is an actual magic item an actual artifact which is a really powerful like super magic power um weapon item basically in Dungeons and Dragons It's a specific acts like from dwarves stuff so that's explains why you look like a dwarf So only dwarves can basically Attuncted without not without turning into dwarves because they're already dwarves Um I might have been so as someone who is almost dwarfed Yeah, oh you should you should read Terri Pratchett books. He has a really good explanation on dwarfs by the way Like like it's it's really cool. Oh, I just realized I just remember something I forgot that but yeah about 20 minutes ago. I believe You've you found and hit the new year because don't that flowers in the heart? Time zone behind UK, right? Well, those have the other time zones, yeah Wow, yeah, well uh we did call it a new cat really do you I'm doing everything wrong Anyway, you know, so they can see I'm telling the tell um whatever his name is a little secret about magic and computers and Tech right that everyone else a lot of people here are gonna know But I'm the time a little secret right That is that a computer and a phone and a tablet and all this stuff. It's actually stupid What I mean by that it doesn't that you have to basically tell it what to do via a computer program or it does nothing. Oh, yeah, I know that but that's yeah I Basically that well, yeah, I know that because I remembered from long long ago from When dad really tried to push me into Becoming a Linux person, which didn't work as you can obviously tell I like magic way more than like Technology and it's not really magic. It's just clever people It's a bit like it's a who have done well It's the same with the it's like we're decoded vaccines, right? We will be in an absolute more of a mess of a pandemic if to work Maxxies And those people who were worked on the vaccines. They are just really clever some of them Yeah, really clever people you know good doing and the same with like engineers and things You could not have without a plane and go all the day and things right Who may who invented a plane who works on planes clever people? Yeah, but I usually I am I have quite some stores which I just thought up in my head and never actually risen And there's a couple which I actually tried to write but never finished so if I ever finished a story Just know that by the way there's an entire like universe out there. I was surrounding that story But basically in that universe magic there's both magic and sci-fi technology. It's this isn't like Star Wars where it's like fans well It's kind of this isn't like Star Wars where it's like fancy and space because by the way D&D and Star Wars both use like an incredibly similar way of magic D&D has the weave which is like like weave of magic So many I used to all that I used to really enjoy all their stuff What do you mean? Yeah, I like we all people are on a side note on fires. I and theater You like the magic sci-fi theme however I was just yeah and come like burn it slightly was coming But it's a bit like actually know it's like gravity, you know way back the apple fell off the tree And it was like why is it do that and somebody could figure that out that the ankle gravity And it all kind of went from there or or it was like how how He used to think that thunderstorm was the godspeed angry and then see the figure out that there's like electric in the sky sometimes Yeah, this kind of thing and then people forgot and read discovered or something and that kind of stuff But basically what I have is I know that's probably what would happen But what if magic didn't want it to happen like magic actively destroys Technology unless you like in chant every individual piece that's why I that's how I can still have Fantasy set fantasy stuff all not having a clash with With the cool space government, so I can have like Close up, it's like fantasy and medieval stuff and that can stuff so if it's very technological It's not very technological advanced Then it's probably because it's there's a high I There's a loss of magic in that area and that magic in that area specifically doesn't like technology because it might be gonna have sentience Oh, it's very potter and Pings the chamber of secrets the second one the one the flying car Yeah, yeah, just a normal car until the magic. Yeah, fly Yeah, that could be possible basically on their my rules, but then you have to basically take the entire car apart In chant every single piece of the thing like it if even if it's like their screws You have to unscrew the screws to get them at every single moving part every single Thing which can be a different object like friends. So I've got a keyboard here and I have to take out every key All the things they're attached to basically I have to take it apart and reassemble it again But but when I'm reassembling it, I have to enchant it and then enchant every object which comes from that So it's very expensive and very hard to have enchanted items and The and some stuff are Like magic accepts it until certain levels so depending on the magic Um, where it is it kind of accepts it in a certain level and um, also I I'm now playing after Watching Rick and Morty this here. I watched Rick and Morty this is really more yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, I've seen a little bit of that, but uh, not one of the whole lot. There's a lot to see Yeah, but yeah, that's like yes, yeah, so I basically thought first like how how are you usually get this story is like Um, well, there are multiple ways, but one of one of the most common ways to get some elements into the Whole universe thing, but I wait the universe kind of started when I When I had a I still have a jacket with dark industry on it and then I thought that could be a company and then I kind of grew Stay in bed, but I like the idea. I like the idea of parallel universes like a lot of Yeah, that's basically what I saw what if I was like the Rick what if I was Rick and then Made this whole armor thing from uh using a loss of stuff from starfiner and then after that I kind of discarded but I Um, uh that's I'm gonna use that as a discourage one of the old stuff along with the old concept so I had was basically like powered armor With a skirt and they're we're gonna be called scourges the reason skirts is because it's a ballistic skirt and it's Supposed to protecting the joints in your leg and that's actually something being used and that's why I Use the skirt thing. I should make just I should just make episodes Explaining universe Moss yeah, that's good what you do in the chat, but uh you could do on the podcast as well. Sure Yeah I Just I Not my job and two everyone else is talking I did at least somebody that like two years through it two well four years ago, however that was they did There's a day would do they have a power I think for bet. Yeah, right this took places in new year and I haven't that one Okay, I was going to crunch bang. Do I make crunch bang then looks and his wife remember those and then but yeah He was that yeah I didn't either would do it anyway that time Um, but yeah, it's the most places we're going to do. Yeah, just now. Yeah, and it says Nova Scotia new bronze wick Venezuela, Bolivia and western Brazil We're doing an a whole chapter in geography just about Brazil if any Presidents are this thing be happy We have an entire chapter about your country like Specifically chose Brazil apparently because it's a good mix of everything we had already. So that's pretty cool But I will sing so um I I wear wherever we again. Oh, yeah So I was reading out a lot of magic because I started to do magic the gathering Um, new share and um then I just thought of like an entire government system and stuff and now I have Interspatial government and they don't allow a lot of travel between dimensions because they're scared of Of uh well because most of them live through uh COVID times so they're scared of Um people trying basically they're scared of a commodity happening And so if there was a whole civil war with that and Basically they're trying to limit their own government but at the same time limit their own people so It's a very very wonky thing in a loss of layers. There's at least four layers and the whole like Um like uh like um ethics uh side which saw so very important and stuff and it is it's just kind of Written down in a document on my laptop. Um, you know what you know what um Ethics magic time travel sci-fi yeah time travel um I don't know I mean if you know actually imagine if you go back to like you know like 2019 Some you know before all of this COVID and everything that's happened right and you can go to yourself and go Oh by the way um Or anybody else oh by the way yeah, there's gonna be face masks and we locked down there gonna be All kinds of stuff. I'm sure you know things would happen. There we go like you want about Oh yeah, yeah, but that's also like the only Time travel is very hard to actually make a good story because you can either do it the Terpratured way, which is really good trousers of time Also say we're time travel to Ned as as has been shown in in Bicken multi as well, which she was just talking about will so um but also very sci-fi movies etc Is that basically if you go and change one little thing in the past it might be that have a really big effect Yeah, it will have a really big effect. That's why also in my universe Time travel is banned. I think it's technically still possible but very hard But it's banned. It's supposed to be actually uh the real world is supposed to be a part of it Who knows? I might just be another version of myself froming around Tuning the same story over and over and so and then when I die, I'll become an ancient undead Spirit god thingy, which I actually I actually got quite quite like I would quite like that now When I'm the parallel universe right where you are all into Linux and all this as well Yes, yes that definitely I and that's actually that's actually the only I mean that I think in that society people it would be Wouldn't be the norm That that they that people were into Linux, but the people who were would definitely gain benefits because I Definitely respect people who can do Linux stuff and like Engineering us of course. I realized the value of that and I can any sci-fi thing it's always the Engineers might not be in charge, but they are invaluable without an engineer you can't survive in space Without an engineer you can't have a like a massive City instrumental city thing without any of those Without any of those mosquitoes and slugs and that kind of gross things rapples that And when I'm some shop star in a pandemic with a lockdown and yeah There's and you find it like all that still is well and part of my interest There's there's a problem yeah, but yeah Would it actually be a good thing to have a Just a podcast but like on-age period just my little universe and all the tweaks I'm making to it and that kind of stuff or Would that not be a good thing because I didn't know it's I think would it be something people are interested in or Me two you said a book that's a podcast I think just do it your dad would probably be happy with that and then he put up with a show Yeah, okay. Let me save this. I Vittled with links from about 2002. I got a little bit serious between 2010 and 2012 In 2015 I got to completely serious in 2018 the end toward the end of the year I joined mint cast without knowing what the blank I was doing and in the two and a half years I was on mint cast I learned more about Linux than in all that time before and And also people sent me nice computers and things. I was sent for Raspberry Pi is each one a different model I've been sent a number of laptops. Yeah, it's good for you get involved. Yeah. Yeah, I think If anyone listening to this is interested I don't know how I don't know how a HBR actually works I I said to dad that there should be in there should be instructions because I have no clue how it works But there is some right right to tell people to comment, right? I'm not that that's Two things. I go into notes when I was 17 or 16 So he said open source I was like what's that? I was the first to ask you family computers about them and then one old and then an old family computer came mine It was like a special for dog or two one there. Grab goes wrong. I can't even get the wife I'm working at this time and this rapper win. I don't know I've got even at later, but yeah, and I'm used to ever since because it's good and you get it and you get in stuff But what but the thing is right you're probably sitting there thinking oh everybody's a program right here I'm not a programmer. I can come in. I can code H to ML on the website and CSS But I'm not a programmer I'm not a programmer. I'm not a programmer. I am not a coder. I am not a IT guy I am not anything. I'm just someone who uses Linux. Joe is not a programmer, but he's someone that uses Linux He also has someone that picks his things. We each had different things get into a podcast with a group of people and see what you can learn from each other And from your audience. Yeah, and it's also kind of like I've never actually finished writing a story I've started writing stories and the people who've read the stories were like well those are great Starts and stuff. I've never actually had you know I usually just stay on the topic for a little while and then I You can buy a story on Linux as well people or something. Yeah, I'm sure an alternate reality me would write a story on Linux But I do consume I do think I know I'm kind of experimenting with stuff with world broadening and I'm having lots of fun with it even if I'm writing nothing down I literally the only things I have are like a couple documents on my computer just in case and some old Some older notes in stuff and yeah, I've already experienced like a great there was great shifts in my way of thinking writing that kind of stuff And I've actually revisited a lot of the old stuff and there were some great ideas which I forgot And so if anyone like if you want to try something I would just suggest trying it because I'm I'm just trying This thing and and I like it and I think most people actually have I have at some point had a little World inside of their head like how they like their fancy stuff and if you can write that down And actually make a cool story out of it then it can really grow into something Yeah, if you try to connect every single thing into one key is a cohesive Reality then eventually it will Actually work yeah when I was between the ages of like 12 and 16 I want to say I had like a whole sort of characters and they had a whole universe and all of that And even though I wound up not doing anything with it because I figured out I didn't want to like draw all day I'm so glad I did that because it made me think through a lot of things Yeah, like house societies work and stuff like that because I do like this and then this it's like well That doesn't make sense if people were you know Yeah, I've looked up smithing smithing just for like one sword It's a really cool sword was made by four gods fused into one god But it's just a sword one singular sword on by one boss of one company dark industries is like one of the oldest characters Building a really cool sword and now I like retrofitted him because he was kind of fading away from Importance he used to be the most important character the most important connection he was the connection between everything Derek the Like the boss of dark industries and Originally I had him take over dark industries, but after Little later I had a found a dark industries so Yeah, he used to be very very important, but after that like Rick and Morty really shifted everything towards Inter I I had made a list listing everything and either Well not everything but like a lot from actual real stuff which exists from small to big and then Some of the stuff which I which we don't know about yet I just filled in with stuff and there were some repeating stuff, but yeah, basically It was pretty fun, but um, I use that to basically like My government and basically my inter into a Universal multi-first or Inter multi-first or government is from this size to this size Like have done that so yeah, and since since then I I I've had a chain in like a gradual Basically just went away from the dark industry's thing, but it's still really like dark industries. It's the or one of the oldest All this and most resilient parts of the thing and I want to connect every sword with at least a mention of This mythic dark industries Um, but just like a little easter egg. So um, I think I'm I have retrofitted him to be Which is something I've done a lot with dark industries. I've retrofitted him to be another version of I don't know what I'm going to call him, but they're literally just versions of me. I it's it's very It doesn't reflect my ego very well, but it there the the Inter into air galactic government thingy is going to be versions of me They're going to be immortal gods, but like I have the power. Why not use it? So yeah, the yeah What do you think what do you guys think about that? There's a sound interesting um From the creative side of things Um, you know, there's there's used to be enough rich material that you've laid out to Have enough Sounds like in enough different motivations There's enough for an entire MCU Actually, the MCU is part it can be written as part of of this yeah, like in Loki was also kind of a big inspiration for Yeah, that's the thing to you know, because you know when I see a lot of other fiction that I've read a lot of it falls flat when they don't Kind of hard to describe until you get to a certain point in the storytelling But the easiest way to describe it would be like Mary Sue or Gary Stu syndrome Oh, where there's more character that is untouchable and now that's not the case Basically what I have is that this This person basically that I always just thought that as other versions of me I know about Mary Sue. That's the thing. I am aware of those things Uh, the only way they can turn into gods is if they die and if their soul isn't destroyed and even then They aren't immortal. They can still die. It's just a tad bit harder. They have to Yeah, if they Manifest physically because they can go between not physical and physical You can still just kill them. They they're they're killable just just chop them in half or something Just just just whack them hard enough and they'll die. They'll just come back a little later So you actually just have to sever their connection with you know The well whichever realm they'll they're connected to and You can do that several amounts of ways and that's why they try to guard it that much. It's Yeah, and mostly they actually Connected they keep they keep their connections involved. It's not kind of stuff Try to have it Yeah, it's the thing they they want it to be safe and the safest is with the government but at the same time It's also like was if someone in infiltrate the government and stuff and Also all the old like dead dead devons are all going are all live in like the Usually they go to the capsule basically which like Yeah, that that basically city that can teleport to places and stuff. I think I know Because obviously if you're so if you're if you turn into a normal god It will be pretty sad that everyone you ever love will be dead later in not that long of a time Can um to you so if you then go to a place where people don't die like that also they have to choice to turn into that They don't actually have to so they can also so still die and I'm specifically not using the dead the dead ones like the gods as As as characters because I know that will be way too overpowered they could just use stuff Not not not die for instance or something There'll be no tension. Oh, I'm going to use stuff like a necrolutioner the necrolutioner the necrolutioner Illutioner who's not dead yet and tries his best not to be that kind of stuff Who might who might actually Yeah, I have problems if he were to actually die or something or like people who aren't Of that group who can still normally die that that kind of stuff. Do you understand what I mean yeah Like as long as there are I'm it's to what the powers can do that's that's actually very important and as long as it's it's Establish that they can do it like For instance, I haven't seen the the episode seven eight nine, but I know Ray can do a lot of overpowered stuff Which doesn't make sense like bringing bringing people back from the dead That's simply not possible in Star Wars So but that's like apparently the finale of a movie so that's not something I'm going to do I'm not going to bend the rules to To make them either feel or succeed. I'm going to try to make it as limiting as possible Without defeating the core concept of what they are because they aren't like God's gods They're like really powerful individuals who are bordering on God's they can't actually they can't usually they can't Like work reality in their place. They can't do anything of that sort of thing They're like ghosts We can come back, but then as now there's like shells of who they were like actual versions of who they were Like still physical and stuff They're just immortal and the mortal meaning they don't age or get sick That's the definition of immortal they can still be killed right Alice, I think that's a good phase to build on I've a lot of more dumping right now Yeah, and then that's happened, but it happened yeah One thing that I've posted on the chat were a couple of links to some handy open source Software that might help One problem I personally ran into with a lot of my earlier writings and Earlier code and other creative endeavors was that I didn't use open source software to do those things so You know over the years I've lost a lot of things because the files can't be opened anymore And you know because it's a proprietary software and you can't find it anymore and the and the computers yet I used Yeah, that's a good point. I mean I don't have my self, but I was reading about And by that school before so it's about that kind of thing where basically people had There were that old documents by she's maybe as well whatever word processing But there's all done in proprietary software It was done on old computers possibly as well and things change as time goes on And then if it's more proprietary you might use access or the computer doesn't work And that's advantage of open source as well because generally speaking and anything that's open source as long as people are still interested in it And and our developers of course that that will carry on it will be around for a long time to come It's a bit like Linux is based or well not Linux kernel, but aspects in the operating system The base on on unix still all similar to unix and that's from the 1970s so that just kind of gives you an idea how much history there would be so Yeah, so one thing um, if you haven't already You might consider using things like Libre office Goblin, yeah, Goblins a very good suggestion too I'm sorry to leave right now I don't really like the Libre office like sweet. Yeah, like the Because it's basically a good free alternative of free as in Libre and free as in free Yeah, there's a little bit of this stuff. I think that's that proud at the same time I used to write all the stuff down on like paper and stuff, but I kind of ran out of a script of what's it's called a notebooks and stuff So I began using the Google Docs on my school computer because I already used that and stuff But it's got to be past it. Yeah, good Google Docs I mean that's that's I'm thinking where he was talking about with all software and then you do that with us now Google Docs is probably not the worst thing because that's probably gonna be around for another 20 or 20 years or something yet come how are they could drop Google Docs one day and just go, you know Well, we can't be bothered with this anymore. Yeah, that's why I'm running Joplin because then you can kind of have that like sharing across devices like Google Docs without being beholden to Google Yeah, I think what I'll want to might do Um, uh, later on, I don't know. Uh, is copy The copy the documents over though. I'll have to go through all the documents because I do have lots of like On the important school documents. Well, I say on important school doesn't think it that way, but they are Um, like in the grand scheme of things. They're already finished most of this stuff. So not really that Important and I'll just copy paste it over that's like the most easiest way to do because it's literally just text There's no I usually don't use any images for just um For anything like that. I just yeah, yeah, and that's what a WordPress process or texture. So it's full really it's text I mean you can't put images into a WordPress asset, but yeah, that's a bit yeah, it's been a little bit It's for exactly my point. I can just copy it over. Yeah, I like I can use the Uh, I didn't know if all those things the same um shortcuts as my laptop those which are very useful shortcuts like um Um, yeah, there's some for a fancy letters and stuff like I know Libra office My mother uses that that I'm pretty sure I think and like there are Things that we sell to be fair, but I think we both risk you can change some of those shortcuts if that's sorry And you can even change the layout like how it looks a bit as well. Yeah, keeping things in plain text You'll definitely be your friend for longevity Yeah, yeah, don't think so you mean dot text. Yeah, it's been the mouse. Yeah, and um at a paper is even longer as long as the paper is kept in good condition Which it is I've got all but yeah, well, actually well, yeah, but if you had a file or something you your paper could possibly get burnt But if you've done that perfectly, you could have your backups. You can have your copies of your electronic documents And then hopefully and they could just perform the cloud or something maybe now. Yeah, you could just Scat and the problem is is that When you scan something it doesn't always get the faint The faint pencil stuff and there's always like images like I I when I write As something in just notes it usually like yes scribbles stuff or like great also these small and Pain make you can also try on a computer sometimes with the right with like a pen That's my that's the problem is converting the paper things to The computer because I already like writes up on the computer now when I want to make notes I've actually got like stats for like four well two are finished and two are not Like creations from that a necromancer illusion in which I already mentioned um and um uh and uh yeah that works just fine but if I want to convert my My things written on paper to stuff on the computer it's a bit hard to do I could try to scan it But that it genuinely when I try it it doesn't work out that great you don't get the detail You usually have from just looking at it your eyes work Better than uh than a scanner Certainly um one middle ground there would be Who um if you got a sketch or an image developed to a certain point that you would want to go back to it later Do uh perhaps take a picture of it Most smartphones could take a picture in sufficient detail Capture them well yeah depends on the thing like some of it yeah I I think I could take a picture of it. Some of it I might even be able to scan But some of it the text is faded enough so that you can still read it otherwise I would Re-write it uh which would probably just make it worse for copying but um I don't want to race it just in case I erase something important but um I I Can still read it but it doesn't register on either Taking a photo or scanning it it I am yeah because most of it is Puy Souls already like maybe more than A more than a year definitely more than two years maybe don't know exactly but uh yeah Like for instance the sort of a talking about like that has a bunch of stuff and it's also like very very small writing like I start I big then they get smaller and smaller and smaller The more I realize I don't have any space left and then eventually it's so small that you can then it's Barely eligible that that's how I that's how I make notes usually oh well one other a couple of other things that I Posted uh there are some links to some sites Our Proposal friendly um Obsidian log seek and Zettler um as well as joplin posted Um those of our open source applications that are also available On Windows and Mac so it's not just Linux but the super power behind those apps that might really help you out as you Flush everything out um they let you have notes Set up links to other notes Without having to provision a wiki Um I I think that might help you at at some point especially as you get closer to actually writing or like Putting together like whatever form your project will take like if it's going to be a podcast or youtube videos or something like that Because you'll be able to write a note and say okay this Place Ruth was built by XYZ in the visual and then you can have a link to another note about XYZ in the visual and you can start to Um like it might help with uh linking things together and You know help flesh things out and make them perhaps more realistic or well relatively speaking of course, you know Um and you know it could be very helpful in you know helping to manage that complexity Um and you might even discover like things that are possible As more characters and more places get added in What is actually possible yeah if then then I might not forget like all the old stuff because I've Faintly remember like yeah but then I also have to try way hard and not just rip off some monelsus creation Which is how I usually start out my creations and then if it doesn't and if I Can't get it any better well then it just it's rip it it's literally just sometimes Is that because I ran to that two or one brother that I helped some other people remember that nothing's really Actually truly original everything's just different combinations of different things. Yeah, so if you find you're having a hard time kind of being original just say okay What are like you know take multiple Yeah, the fictional universes and kind of mind things is a new thing that for instance if I have a character Which I I usually use the indie to create stuff because they've already got some rules and stuff and I And I have a lot of trouble limiting things I always had like really overpowered like creatures and stuff like so Limiting things is is very very it is is hard for me so I'll I've come better at it, but I'll usually look towards another thing which has already done it to To basically figure out how I'm supposed to but sometimes then if I take inspiration from something I'll say D&D I might literally just for instance make a character Which is for instance a teeth link a teeth link and how I'm going to explain that it's a T-fling anyone who's got good eyes can tell it's a teeth link and stuff and most of them Not very good with coming up with names so then you've got the problem of what I'm I'm going to name it to make it original something else which isn't teeth link the T-fling sense of good already that kind of stuff. Yeah, it'd be helpful So usually something else is a template does help you focus more time on the parts that are truly unique I just have it's very useful something else is template one thing I Posted in the chat is a quick link to the heroes journey up a lot a lot of narrative arcs and storytelling Yeah, and you know it's amazing like over thousands and thousands of years of human history and mythology and you know position and culture how many Dories that are central to human civilization can be Can be described as a variant of that heroes journey. You know where You have a very specific character who Even if they are predestined to One of the gods there's still a process there's still a Or lack of a bit of where they ritual that they must go through Like a departure from wherever they are Initiation to prove that they are ready for the final conflict They're of ultimate return to greatness um and a lot of the good stories have That it's core There aren't too many Enduring tales of antiquity that stray too far from that So some people is some circles would have a very low opinion of the heroes journey But the thing is when you look at what they write You know or are the things that they create it's is very boring and flat because they haven't You know they haven't come up with a truly unique novel way of balancing All of the things that the heroes journey can balance for you Yeah, I mean, I think I wondered about why everything has to follow something of a heroes journey And I think just there's just narratives that appeal to human beings because we're selfish and it's like, you know We want to see things escalate and The hero's journey I think is kind of the most sure far away to do that because if we can't see ourselves in something or character then We don't really care Yeah, and I think this is it's very useful definitely Also, yeah, I think I haven't really used it that much. I really haven't gone that far usually in writing things The furthest story I got is actually it's pretty pretty good, but it's in it's in the default things which I've just kept around kind of like not just decided and really want that Way of having magic in the world anymore. Don't want a specific place full of magic But basically so there the guy is I know if it follows heroes journey so the guy right is a Our main character is a jook and he's doing a yearly Is is a pretty powerful but very young jook and Can do some magic and He holds a like festival thing and People come from all over for the festival. It's a yearly thing in the kingdom And then it Who was being set oh yeah, so one guy is not really very being very nice So because the jook is already quite powerful actually he knows his way around the politics table And this one is in the opponent and he catches him doing a little thing which is Which is technically punishable. I know exactly that what it was again, but it was Was he thought nobody was ramped, but yeah, it was a wrong thing to do Because this is basically like the worst person in history Not necessarily like like evil. It's just that he's a massive massive of douche basically Um, and So basically then the I He gets captured and put into well basically the jook digital tent for the king to later on the side If he is guilty or not because he's also a powerful like guy and then Then he's gonna send an assassin to try to kill and they were gonna be like some events which he Part of him and eventually there was gonna be an epic battle between the two to see who would win and then The jook our main character would win just and He feed the the douche back to the creature he had a Yeah, they kept in his in his somewhere rather some he kept a dangerous Seek creature and he just people he didn't like he fed to it. So they charge him on a lot more than Uh, they eventually found a lot more on the dirt on him than It was originally charged for so yeah, and then he dies and that's yeah, nice He kind of kind of becomes the power behind the throne that that's basically the story Is I don't think that's hero's journey. Is that hero's journey? Um, this is what it is probably not I mean whoever he rose into might go on the hero's journey But his interactions with him might be events that happen on that other characters arc Yeah, um another thing that comes to mind is the game of thrones Uh, which is basically based on um you know European history around the time of the Hundred years of war and the Italian city state's period Yeah, which actually curiously enough that very few people Use that period of history as a template to drop on oh, I love that I love that type of like little city states like I love the politics. I uh, I preferably I didn't particularly like Like creating Game of Thrones Just like the book game of thrones Because it was very very dark. I wouldn't have killed that dog now that dog was you could kill the humans But not the dogs that would be evil and he killed the dog and that's just evil like we I'm I'm not gonna kill dogs Well depending on the dog, but like not gonna kill like No an on sentient magical dog now. So But yeah, I I I actually quite like the politics of the whole thing and The politics of those six states and stuff and yeah, you think that's really cool. See I continue Yeah, so yeah, there's um yeah, I definitely think you have enough material to start something at least Um, you know, it may well be that um as you start to Realize this project find more details may co-op along the way or new opportunities may come up along the way To link things together in a way that you perhaps have it expected before Um, but yeah, I think you definitely have enough to start for sure And then you know, there's you know the main thing as far as like using our leveraging Technology or the the the magic of technology to help you bring that life, you know Just as far as possible stay with you'll be sore stuff so that you don't get locked out of your world You know in a few years, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I think of well But most of my world is just stored in my brain. I just remember it that that that is some you It's a very fickle thing. It's very hard to remember all the exact details but all the like the hard stuff I've written down at least somewhere in paper and I'll I'll make sure that I That I'll be able to access all the documents I need but um yeah Yeah, yeah, I think this might also be very useful for other people or just like who might just be interested in like the same stuff as I am Making something out of their own little world which are big world who knows depends on how much stuff you've got right Yeah, I just get a Little concerns sometimes when I see so many creative people Especially knowing what I know now about open source. They think that Are they put so much of their time and their effort and their life work? Into I lows, you know these proprietary silos. You know, I've been burned that way and Other people who have been burned that way too, but yeah, that's This is literally just What what do you mean because this is literally just so hobby. I'm I'm not gonna make a job out of this Well, you know, it's maybe maybe now I don't think so. I don't think I'll ever be able to make a job out of this But I'm able to have fun with what I have yeah, and that's This certainly valuable The situation I personally ran into I had a bunch of Well, code and art and some lore or a couple of old video game projects that I put together From a time where I wanted to you know, you know, because there was a space game and then they RPG that I wanted to make And bitches for Basing game that I had and some of those projects were fairly far along It was in like a rough prototype under RPG However, uh, because I used a lot of old software That was proprietary. I lost it all Because I don't have a computer that can open the files anymore. I add a backup of some of the stuff But the backup wasn't a it was also a proprietary program and I lost access to that as well And so there's you know, even though it wasn't a commercial project per say that I Was going to make a lot of money on it. That's a good chunk of my life That yeah only exists And the string of ones of zeros that I can't even get to anymore Um, and so if that kind of thing does wear down on you after a while or at least it doesn't Yeah, for me because you know, it's like, you know, even though I You know, my my livelihood does it depend on getting a hold of that that's true But at the same time, you know It would be not really to review it, you know, to look at it, you know, to remember some of the Cool things, you know, because yeah, because I have that with my uh with my also it like all the Notes and stuff. I look back and then and think oh, that's cool. Hey, I can use that again And if you can't access it. Yeah, so basically more of the story you're saying is Make sure that never happens to you Basically, yeah, exactly Um, always make sure you're on top of if the software you're using is up to date or not or Could be taken away and always make sure if you've done something on one type of thing Make sure you copy it over to whatever boss Yes, yes Make sure there's at least one other copy of what you have a Perfection would be the three two one rule, you know three copies of your data Two different medium one off site But yeah, even just one other copy that is not on the same Place that you normally work in you'll be a lot more than what a lot of people have so yeah But yeah, everything I do nowadays. I make sure that I'm using something open source Um, because like in the I've only been involved in open source for about Well, it gets about eight or nine years now And yeah, everything I did in the past eight or nine years. I can get a hold of generally speaking Yeah, that's very useful like I have a lot of stuff bookmarked on my phone Like a lot of music and stuff So um today actually or was it yesterday? Oh, yeah, yesterday because it's already five in the morning yesterday Shnit aid showed me a thing on an asteroid called spottaflyer where you can basically put your else in it and then Um, it'll get the music and it will you can download it on your phone So I've basically just got the best ones and I put it on my phone and I'm gonna put all the music I've bookmarked on my phone, but that's gonna take ages Like I've got like at least a good 10 seconds worth of well more than 10 seconds good A long time of scrolling down and then it's just all Kevin my glove Kevin Good that guy made a lot of song like I made a lot of music. Yes, I Clearly definitely don't regret telling us all also somebody knows how to help me please And touch There's no helping you anymore I know I was afraid of that Yeah, yeah, oh open source can do a lot of cool things. I only realized that this year Um, I wanted some songs. Yes, this also has to do with songs. I just like music I don't like making it but I like listening to it From a game and it was in all game. It's like Frozen bubbles and you have to like Do the colors and stuff and I'm actually and because I wanted to listen to the songs Uh, at least the first couple seconds of the songs the ones which I actually heard because I was I became really good at game and that's why I'm here the first couple seconds because I was Because it was like yeah, that level's done that level's done that level's done Even with random stuff Really really funny how that happened like I'm usually not good at video games so that this one specific Um, color sorting color shooty ball reflecty thingy I'm actually good at because I want to listen to the music but um, I asked that if he could put it on my phone Because um, what I did my idea of putting it on my phone was basically Me Going to the credits looking at all the songs screen shots Then looking them up on the internet and maybe then downloading them from the internet or something This was before us I knew about spotty the spotty flyer So I might just have put marked it But basically what he did is he just went into the game files and he took him It's like like he did one way and it's so inefficient But you don't know of any other way and then someone else just comes out of the middle of nowhere and it's like I can do it this way Like way better and that's really cool and And then I will talk about it and like oh that's so epic to one of To I know I is someone and they said it's the most basic thing ever and but I was and I was like I know But it's so epic. It's so cool. I I didn't notice the power of um of them Yeah, I opened source before that basically but it's that that was really cool Yeah, open source. Yeah, it's turn Owners about to come up Turn about four minutes Very nice very nice. I say what better way than to talk about Fossossossossossossossossossossoss I think he liked to scream at us First some other cool fast tools that some people are using one that I want to call out is it's called YouTube dash dl and it'll actually let you download videos and they had a very interesting I recommend looking up Uh, they had tried to have been sued closed down Yeah, how I think I was hosting and got threatened by our fancy companies and they've never quite been able to get shut down And they're pretty awesome They're useful if you do any sort of video editing or YouTube that you can download videos and then put them Obviously they can't protect you from like you know copyright issues and stuff so grab that in mind, but Awesome little tool. So pull straight audio out of something oh Yeah, yeah, you can use it for all kinds of things. I just I use it for like its own purpose, but I've I had no idea what's up Was it an idea what I heard no idea then? Yeah, I think you said you think you said there were no idea where you're talking about I was kidding Love that tool. Oh, yeah YouTube deal. Yes, uh, I suppose Um, see there's um uplands that layer dump and Krita actually Prize that how well they've come along These are versions of those two tools have been very nice with it, you know experimenting with Destration Definitely not what it was even just a few years ago Where's it also helps that I've really had Out of good use of And um mail spring actually mail spring is open source Very good alternative to Thunderbird which can be a bit clunky and heavy But I have too many email addresses more than I care to admit oh by the way Happy new year everyone. It is now Midnight in the eastern time zone. Happy new year. Happy new year. Happy new year. How late is it everywhere? It's uh, I've gone basically through the entire night now. It's six six here To this is the midnight here in the eastern time zone. So that's um Canada East of the prairies of course Down through the eastern United States All the way down to most of Central America most of Latin America But one of my uh chunk of the Caribbean as well um 22 Wood of state I have a discord. I have a discord server with a bunch of my friends and to celebrate. I'm saying Happy new year is to celebrate here's a bunch of jiffs to commemorate 2021 and just a bunch of middle finger jiffs Yeah, I found 2021 to be like like worse than 2020 like you have all the All the stuff from from 2020 just still around and they ended with a lockdown and you Is a nom like all the positives of the uh of covid stuff kind of disappeared is the whole like like The covid had a kind of thrill to it at the beginning. It was like oh cool. We were part of history Something important and you didn't have to go to school back then and stuff With um first when it came when covid first came out basically you didn't have to go to school here in And so all very fun and enjoyable and that kind of stuff But on after a while it just it's tiring now like like if you're not immediately affected by like People dying or people having seriously medical problems. This is how you basically feel it like beginning it's It's kind of like it's not the greatest, but it's it's different and interesting but Now it's just boring and we've seen it all before and Better ended one way or another Yeah for I actually was lucky me and Damien have the same social group and I think we managed to avoid COVID for the most part. It's just now kind of starting to hit into my circle at all. I My mom and a friend had to test for covid because they uh well my mom worked in a nursing home. I got like seven cases of covid It actually took out some of the residents which was kind of sad thankfully my mom didn't get it Not a friend that had a really bad flu or cold and tested and thankfully he was negative But yeah, it's finally starting to kind of get to my circles and it's like That's not a fun feeling. I had that before. I had that already before in in 2021 and it's not the best I would say it Um though luckily everyone I care about has um uh not as not going to COVID and only one class Well uh which I can remember a couple classmates and teachers have gone COVID but they haven't died Only one I heard had uh problems later on Um but he was fine for the most part just a little more trouble with breathing which sucks but they yeah Don't really know anyone in the class that well. Yeah, I'm trying to avoid COVID because I feel like with my luck in my system I'll get the type of COVID where you're on a toilet for two weeks Yeah, but I remember like mom with her work Um a lot of stuff had COVID a lot of people in the in in the homes and had um COVID and stuff I remember that I don't know any specific specifics of course. It's so classified and stuff Blady Blady Blady Blady Blady Blady. Yeah, we were talking about our own sort of open source software What was that other name that they came out with for gimp? Oh, Krida? No, Krida's the whole other application uh there was some people who were uh like the name of gimp so they came out with They forked it and came out with a different with basically the exact same thing just named differently Oh my god, that's so funny. Yeah, there was such a Made the look like Photoshop. Was that? Oh Yeah, I just uh Google this let's try to call it glimpses. That's it You know, I think it's not fast, but everyone's no I'll you get these like really petty crap that's like stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, they um they weren't able to find enough maintainers or enough contributors rather but what's the uh the popular version of Audacity now that I've been following I haven't I haven't seen consensus built yet Um I've been looking at that with pen interest Audacity is a one of the early success stories for open source audio editing The corporate entity that bought Audacity has done some very shady underhanded things to basically try to blow source the application and push the fairly invasive telemetry the code base um so they're basically taking what was once a freely-bray open source application and turn it into yet another data harvesting product so there will have been a few forks of Audacity in the past few months I have not found a good basement. I think 20 life is winning the race right now. Fascity? Tenacity I believe is is winning the race right now. I believe tenacity might have been actually replaced in some of the repos. I'm not sure one I just want to I think about I think it has been replaced in some of the repos for Audacity. Why do companies always like like uh they always think of um the short term bed well looks like they only think of short term like money gain and stuff and then completely ignore um things like actual quality in stuff like I know for instance I've got a friend who is way further in watching all the Star Trek stuff than I am and he said that at a point they basically just the the quality went down so far that he thought yeah that he thought that earlier season was like way better or something and the same happened with Star Wars and even stuff which isn't like which isn't uh something like that they get a good thing and then they suck all the joy and happiness from it and then you're left with something terrible which no one wants anymore and that hurts overall overall profits if you just make good thing then people will want the good thing but companies don't seem to get it. Yeah I work in a QA and the thing I was kind of trying to beat into people is because I've like from my experiences with QA the problem is that people just want to add like companies want to add more and more features because the stakeholders of the board members say hey we need more features so that our stock prices tie that up and I keep trying to really push into them like if your core features that people use your app for don't work they don't give a shit about the other stuff and it's really and you get people with NBA is and all that that just do not understand this and it just makes everyone's life harder and then you know I can't tell you how many fast food apps and stuff that I've used that have become so hard to live and who removed dislikes they removed dislikes but they left the dislikes button they just they left the dislikes but this has no use anymore they because people were abusing it and we abusing it in which way but they would get groups of people together like fast food for bots and just have you know thousands of people go in and dislike a video for no reason and it would mess with the metric it was affecting people's ability to make money yeah what's up one other view on that is that several large corporate brands also did not appreciate or having their official narratives challenged by large groups of people who didn't agree with them but yeah of all the organizations on earth YouTube would be one of the few organizations that would have the resources to do the kind of network analysis regression analysis artificial intelligence to detect when someone is getting bot bergated and mitigate that but instead they've chosen a path to do the tick the lazy way out they took the easy way out yeah and even something like me who thinks in it doesn't even know if that would even be possible I just think like wouldn't it be handier just to like make it make the dislikes not count towards algorithm but still show to this likes to the people like the problem isn't necessarily the problem is for instance if you want to see a good tutorial on something you don't know if there's gonna be a loss or if it's good if you only see the positive things because you know it's maybe it's a type of thing which people don't engage with often maybe maybe there is a lot of engagement but people really hate it and it's not very helpful and then you don't know it because of the dislikes and it's not like people still can like if it doesn't have any effects it's the same as just like yeah uh having a comment underneath the video and like upload this if you um if you don't like the video and then everyone uploading the comments that it's the same thing basically except um if you don't count this like thing so they're literally more easy and more satisfactory ways to um to to uh make make to make it better like it I saw so many memes about it and I was like oh I haven't had that and then I had it very annoying but I'm a bit concerned to see what will um what impact it will have when the platform wants a critical mass of videos are uploaded ever new the history of the video you people have pointed out that a lot of other kinds of abuse will become so much easier because they took the shortcut so they may wind up and dangering the very hoping to protect anyway yeah or claiming to protect they mean to hope to protect um also isn't me or are people just like closing out randomly like I'm pausing in my sentences because that's how I speak but like people are closing out um it seems like people are um hopping in and out yeah but with you when you're talking it just cuts it doesn't say you're talking and then you and then uh wait it's for a couple seconds and then uh it resumes and you're uh further on in a sentence than where you were. It's only as it's all your setup but yeah it's push to talk setup. Oh okay because uh yeah then then then then then uh yeah. Yeah it'll probably start uh it start uh uh my glove might pick up as soon as it starts hitting the sound so sometimes it takes a second for the sound to kick in. Yeah yep yep. Hopefully that's that too uh distracting it normally works out fairly well because it helps cut ways and feedback. I'm able to make out most sentences but yeah but I'm cutting out a word here and there I'm not. Yeah it's like cut ways and feedback that's that's like this is might be just a sentence which uh in which that is important I don't know but I was I'm able to make out at least. Oh a one quick question about this particular podcast um new to mumble is the chat history saved or no okay and the same you leave it's gone okay we do we do have a link uh on the HBO website to some lovely show notes where if you would like to save some of that information it can go on the there okay and then then when I when I post it it uh uh all those notes ish July ish alright uh it uh it'll uh I can use those show notes uh to put it well I can use those uh the stuff in the show notes and the post. Yeah I don't think I'm gonna have to ask you for a segment this year. I know orders went out with a friend this evening so no more of Kai saying something insane. I still like the fact that you guys had added two tells. I love it. She hates it it's perfect. Yeah and apparently around like 945ish the uh my laptop just that was rough doing the stream. Just completely I'm guessing it went to sleep or something because I come down stairs the screen is black and like the little lights were flashing in the front it just it like shut down I don't know what the hell happened I don't so I read it I don't think so I mean magic horrible dark magic yeah well the problem is my recording is on the stream and uh the yeah the stream goes out to anybody who just wants to listen and post my recordings on there so missing large chunks well I'm not sure how large of a chunk as I get my made it down here like if if it missed anything it's many about 10 minutes. Oh okay because the guy the the recording laptop is called this guy so back about it go back in the history to about like 945ish this guy well okay mine is cc so it's it's uh back about four hours back about four hours okay. Yeah 9. And that was nice before more than no. Of course we're gonna drop the ball. 947 this guy was moved to audio tests so that's had to have been around the time that that something happened with the laptop and then 948 he uh does disconnected so but I got it back on at 950 so I don't want to lost a few minutes they're hopefully okay yeah well I don't think it'll be the end of the world right uh two minutes that you cut out man put in the secrets of the life universe and everything yeah well we were here air well I I I I I I know exactly when it was but people were here people have heard it we can be the wise ages and you know the answer is for it too yeah yeah is is said that I've been spending a good part of the day because there was a reference to uh uh uh to uh to that earlier and that was trying to figure out what remember what the number was it's kind of sad that you didn't know what off top of your head yes yes that is sad I felt that could be sad actually your father made the made the reference and it wasn't picked up and I was gonna say 42 but I've been just the number wouldn't I completely out of my head you know I I thought of something right so the answer is for you too we know this the question however that's another answer I think I think it's the maximum I think it's the number of tear of the discworld books before the universe explodes is 42 when when there are 42 discworld books and universe will explode that's my theory that that's why he died before um before he could write another book because if he didn't then the universe would explode he was logical yep very very logical very logical logic there yeah you know I'm sad that Terry good kind is dead but I'm really glad he's not writing the Richard and Caleb novels anymore which one very good kind for the truth in novels I didn't pick that out the sort of truth in novels Terry good kind never heard of him if you decide to read the series don't go past the second book yeah okay yeah I have a similar series where it's like good in the stars and then it gradually just gets worse and then every series written by Orson Scott card never out of them too but it's something you wrote and there's game I might have heard of and there's game but I wasn't it wasn't something yeah then really I look into it basically but it's Orson is foul it the first book is really really good and it's like you probably have you heard of it yeah Orson is foul have you read the books okay so the first book really really good I would advise reading that second book um also pretty good third yeah fourth uh they kill off uh yeah there's there's a major death which I would have put later on in the series but anyway not so bad fifth still okay some slight amount of time travel it kind of gets wacky and wacky but it's tolerable on like fifth fifth there's a reason and they only like uh they're in it go to like parallel like um they uh they time travel quote unquote um into the future is simply by like yeah not having the correct destination in the in the weird time place. Orson Scott card is actually a fairly prolific writer his problem is is that he cannot properly and a series and by the time he gets to the usually third book in a series it's complete in total garbage the exception being the uh Ender's shadow series which is good all the way through the third book and then at the fourth book it kind of slides downhill but he should have ended it at the third book like the like he was originally planning um now the Ender's series itself Ender's game um speaker for the dad speaker for the dad is still decent but then everything after speaker for the dad really slides downhill and then the album maker novels they're good through the second book and then by the fifth book even the editing is terrible and then um let's see the gate thief novels um first one is good second one is very meh and then yeah don't even bother with the third one. Yeah sometimes people just have it like I I tried I tried right we had a whole conversation just before um but yeah and um I can never just just uh I can never finish it just because I'm I already moved on to something else but that Artemis file thing right right up until the fifth book it's still made sense but then he gets time travel in both and it's not like the good terrible time travel it's it's not good time travel like there's problems and all that kind of stuff and um eventually one really stupid thing is in book eights which like um there is a person who time travelled from the past uh to the future and then the future version of them kills them and instead of like uh the feet the uh like the same in the world but and existing themselves yeah not only existing themselves everything they've done exploded why why does it explode this is such a random thing we're literally told between the two possibilities either everything fades away and you know the logical thing that they don't exist in the timeline all the things exist at the same time so each of these objects are in two places at the same time everything that they've touched or moved and so because object can't or if you can't occupy two spaces at the same time everything goes boom yeah the thing is though they influenced the uh creation of like mobile phones and stuff so everything like all the human technology stuff goes boom and um well that's a bit like um yeah if you if you would explain like that in the book I would be like okay that does make sense yeah but they just say there are two opinions on it either this happens or that happens and um well that just it just doesn't feel right in the book itself should have been explained the problem with Terry good kinds writing is that you don't realize that it's going downhill but you read the first one it's good you read the second book yeah it's good but you're kind of realizing that there's a lot of things like that aren't some as foul to be honest and then you get into the third book and it's still you know it's good but okay and then the fourth book yeah it's good but it's kind of repeating the second book and then the fifth book is kind of repeating the third book and on and on because in one book Richard will get kidnapped and then in the next book um Caleb will get kidnapped and then back and forth and back and forth and getting fried yeah back up get it get somebody gets kidnapped because that like repeating thing of somebody gets kidnapped reminds me of cad fell but I think cad fell is different cad fell starts off with like um it's it's a monk in medieval times and he's basically like a murder mystery detective right and then each book has the exact same theme and that's um you know it's bad murder yeah that sounds like cad fell it's like murder murder each time you know who's gonna get murdered there's somebody gonna get murdered there and there's also gonna be a sub-block with uh two people hooking up usually 40 or 50 times throughout the book you get the explanation of how a confessors power works and by the end of it you're so tired of hearing about how a confessors power works and you just want to choke the shit out of the person that wrote it and then you realize you can't move on oh that would suck because uh yeah you don't want to listen to how uh to exposition about 20 times over you want to listen to it once and if you don't know exactly you come back again so if I can understand yes if you want a lot of the explanation then you give a lot of exposition like for instance this is how um this is uh what the specific castle looked like and this is the defending thing of the castle now we're not gonna attack the castle because it's gonna be there but now you know the thing about the castle or like hey this fairies are like casually being mentioned but here's like the whole thing and here's three of our fairies which both I've written I've done something like that well like I'm saying give me something new don't really tell me the same thing in the same book a hundred times yeah I understand you know wanting the novels to be independently readable and re-explaining it once at you know towards the beginning of the book I don't need it explained over and over and over again in every book and the other thing with Terry Goodkind was he finished the series I read all the way through till he finished the series and it was a good solid finish despite the fact that you got tired of the overarching theme and the explanations I stuck it out and then he tried to write a new series and that's expanding on way distant future events in the same time but nobody bought it so he went back and continued on with the original series dropping that new series and it just that he's feeding a dead horse and it was you know you'd already done okay well the world was split up into this one into two sections well we opened that section up and now these two sections are merged together but oh wait there's another section that's blocked off in the world over here so then we opened that up and then oh wait there's another section that's blocked off this is just another small chunk of the world the world is much bigger than you thought got annoying yeah yeah that's very annoying it's yeah yeah but like that that's not something that does well cad felt kind of as a problem I think with the writers actually very tongue or walls I know if they're alive still but very talented writer and being able to kind of make a good story around it just I'm pretty sure that people who were who were basically like what's it called producer of the book no something like that they basically they basically wanted to have the in the beginning she kind of set out a kind of theme like there is murder and the two people are gonna hook up and then want to hook up but can't and cad fell it's gonna solve it some way and the problem wasn't the hunger games yeah I haven't booked for terrible but it was a hunger game wasn't twilight that was garbage it could make it past the first chapter I haven't even tried reading it is sometimes you know it could be handy to have a look at it like the sequel trilogy of Star Wars I need to have a look at it to combat it effectively but Twilight I don't even need I just know the summary of it a lot of the movie version I don't care if you're a vampire I love you yeah I could make it the first chapter of the first book of twilight but at least twilight didn't have Jar Jar Binks hey Jar Jar Binks is a cool Sith Lord okay I've looked at everything it is a Sith Lord tell you Jar Jar Binks is a Sith Lord and there's nothing what evidence is there again Jar Jar not being a Sith Lord have you even been trying to find his asshole with both hands and a map that's what he wants him to say that's what he wants you to think so I went back a while ago and I decided I was going to rewatch everything from episode one all the way up until I mean even like Rogue one going into new hope and watch everything for the beginning do you know what what's that the Clone Wars see what she Clone Wars what the animated animated I just thought I liked it I made you watch the animated you are I have not made it through the first season of Clone Wars because the first season of Clone Wars is most most of this of every episode is we went to this place we watched it last night yeah I didn't watch those old 80s I might have seen them back with the previous videos but did you watch the horror series in mind though but past like if you get that later in the series it goes a bit like there's bigger there's there are actually arcs like punk rail everyone hates punk rail and you'll figure out why once you reach that part so I know there's more to the to the Clone Wars I just I have to make it past those big at those like basically the first season yeah once they make it past the first season it's supposed to get a lot better but yeah when you're confused and you're like okay they're gonna beat up these guys they're gonna beat up this yeah yeah yeah it's just like we went to this skirmish we it was really iron we beat these guys but there was like no there's no like real rhyme or reason then anything but it's like we went to this fight we won yeah we went to this fight they took our droid we got our droid back we won yeah and that was like it there's no like yeah our broader story but my initial point was when I initially started this whole journey I might my previous thought was that Jar Jar Binks wasn't that as annoying as he was and that everybody was just blowing you out of proportion and then I went back and rewatched it oh he was really that fucking really that bad I I was I had to not lose my self thinking that Jar Jar Binks wasn't like that bad he was just like okay he's kind of comic relief no no he was that bad he was either check to themselves enough into the the episode one to be so annoying that it was horrible um I watched it I didn't mind it personally but I watched it with the first time with the perspective of him possibly being a Sith Lord and when I did that oh my god he's definitely 100% a Sith Lord you can't he he he's such a good Sith Lord he even manages to fool palpating into thinking he's just a clown that's how good of a Sith Lord he is and then what does he do in the empire he disappears why we don't know he just disappears after helping palpating rise to power he disappears why or grazing like because we just interrupt this real quick just to say happy new year from Miami yeah hoping you all are are having a wonderful 2022 so far yeah it's fantastic talking about Sith Lord and how to run with it definitely one yeah all right y'all thank you I'm off take it easy yeah happy new year but literally I also watched the Clone Wars and there was for instance an episode right and I first I didn't know why he was doing what he was doing I thought it's silly maybe he's not a Sith Lord how can I explain this for him being a Sith Lord very easily actually so what he did is he went up to like the pilot and he he accidentally uh air quotes went up to the pilot and messed around and caused the ship to crash well turn south that the guy who was um who outranging him was killed he's now in charge now charger banks isn't charge and because charger banks isn't charged things don't escalate that's the thing he just takes control of the tanks things don't escalate which um yeah basically there's a all like pirate thing and people were being kidnapped who you know republic versus separatist thing and the pirates are in the middle and some people were betraying the pirates and it was gonna end up very very bad for everyone especially the very cool pirate guy um if charger banks hadn't stepped in and um mediates with the situation then you might ask why would a Sith Lord want to mediate the situation the reason being is that the Clone Wars is orchestrated by Palpatine a Sith Lord and it would probably um probably stop or at least uh the plan would be hindered the great plan which the Sith worked to thousand years for would uh be hindered it not delayed or just stopped if duku uh was died died if duku died or was captured by um by uh by the republic because yeah that was the stakes so basically it was if um the way charger banks did it it made that um duku could escape and that the republic and that the Clone Wars would continue and otherwise the whole thing would basically collapse so you made sure that the empire could exist yeah that's just one example there's like many like literally every episode he he appears in there is something which uh which explains all his actions I take your silences uh uh as a response that your mind is blown by my factual by my uh great observing of charger banks go go if yes it makes sense though come on sure i'm gonna go with it if you there's a choice you can either be super annoyed by charger banks and hate him and that kind of stuff or you can think he's really cool because he's an evil Sith Lord and self i'm just going with the one which gives me the most enjoyment like for instance um in the new canon they um they don't have the yuchang bang which i didn't read any of those uh stories of the expanded universe because i was way too late for that but i always liked the concept of like the yuchang bang um so i think like the grisk which replaced them um have are being uh are being like a driven out by some scouts of the yuchang bang so like um they try to fortify the galaxy which is like what the chissor doing and in response the chiss are trying to fortify the galaxy against the grisk so yeah if you understand what what i'm talking about it it's very cool does anyone even understand or care what i'm talking about uh what was it? a lot of it in species lots of just choosing the choosing the option which gives you most enjoyment yep sorry i had two two conversations going on at the same time uh we were uh arguing about the movie the joker uh and a couple of other things in the in the chat as well as the the conversation about jar jar so i got a lot yeah i haven't i haven't been reading the chat to yeah never reminds me um you can do two come let's say that's a pretty good two conversations in one by the way but um like the new canon stuff i i only arrived to the sourcing after the whole new canon stuff so um the way i deal with the canon thing is basically like if it's not contradicted by the new canon and you like the legends version then the legends version is canon for you at least and um if if you um and the way i do it is i basically prefer if something is canon unless it was in the sequel trilogy then i don't like it because i just i started watching it and i nearly literally threw up because it was it just the start it they they ripped off like uh they tried to rip off and new hope just they well i've i've been trying to look at a lot of it as um i'm just gonna relax and uh try to enjoy the ride because you know a lot of people were talking about how the uh uh was an episode six but god damn it the the newer uh season the the newer series of the star wars was was was crap and how the new one was exactly like new hope and i tried to just taking it as hey it's a fun cool movie i mean yeah but i was just so confused and i had to like uh stop watching it and i i went on to watch Marvel stuff um and that's how i actually started watching all um msu thing is um i i started watching it it's not necessarily that it was bad at least the the part that i watched it's just that um they give no explanation for why the new why the first order appears it's like who's the first order what's it doing and i think well that happened an episode four but an episode four we get a we get later on we get the prequel series who literally just sets up all this stuff from before season four and in between all the gaps between the movies is filled up with animated shows like um like uh um the clone wars bad batch and rebels they completely fill the holes in between the movies so where is any explanation from what why the empire was defeated in episode six but why is there another empire in episode seven just at the start that that yeah that was just like yeah oh yeah i'm playing it did a horrible job trying to explain anything that happened between or or if like the the the last of the Jedi as was supposed was originally just um basically basically um beforehand it was Darth Leia and uh haunt uh Luke and then um what's his name do uh well i guess was southern palpison or whatever the uh after after the others died i mean you should have just been um Leia and Luke and i really haven't watched that far so well you're talking about uh well actually i that that's not true either because then there was the uh apparently Luke had started a school for whatever remaining uh Jedi's were left and you know where they was able to find and scrounge together but i don't know i i i i said i tried to a lot of times with movies like this i tried to just kind of sit back relax and try to enjoy the ride i don't need to. My my expectations for continuity is is down to nothing i just basically i hope for the best the best people who have done anything with continuity has been the embassy you and you know they haven't screwed it up screwed up continuity yet but that's because they've had basically one guy running most of it well we always say they're working on screwing up their continuity right now but they're working on doing it in such a way that you know accent. Molteners yeah they're trying to do it in such a way in which it's in actually enjoyable and so they can replace aging actors or actors that want to leave the series. Yeah what's the place in character yeah which is a good thing to be honest that should be possible but it's such a long thing actually uh uh when when i heard like multiverse i was like well that's that's a very interesting thing very well done there give yourself a pass on the back well i i i quite i quite also like the lowkey thing we had a nice look at it and it was all very clear to me all the stuff but then again what clear to me none necessarily means that it's clear to other people you know and i i just hope that the that the MCU doesn't screw up the multiverse like uh the whole DC does. Multiverse is how they explain the fact that they can have 15 different versions of one character. Uh yeah um i have on cough spiderman cough cough. I want to see the new spiderman. I want to see it so bad. I haven't yet seen spiderman don't spoil spiderman yet spiderman home coming. i haven't seen it either but i know that the other two spiderman are still in it. Oh yeah me too i definitely know that that was unavoidable but that that's just pretty cool because people apparently like those movies haven't seen those movies but people like them so if people like them why not bring them back and then with the original people who did it that that's what i like that they bring back the original people who were um who played all the they yeah villains and like eras and stuff all the other characters yeah. i want the Netflix uh Marvel shows in the MCU now. Yeah i heard something Netflix uh i heard something like Marvel shows like i was very confused what actually was canon and what was not because i definitely know like all which movies are canon into the MCU. Well now it's a bit more um a bit more hard to pinpoint now with the whole multi-first thing but um which series like i just know like um want a vision um lowkey lossyth and uh Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Are there more? Well Hawkeye just came out. Oh yeah all of those are basically kind of like uh to keep pushing the original stories forward a bit like uh uh want a vision was a way to continue telling the story of wanda and well wanda and vision they basically brought vision back from the dead and uh yeah so one that turns i think a little bit more evil and then uh vision. Yeah it turns more towards good but it's it's like a whole bit. It's really good it's really good how they did it. I watched it all like all in one day because that's how good they did it they uh they also thought told me about um sitcoms which i was very happy surprised about because i definitely would like the twenty ten stuff i recognized it but that was from also um now that's probably because it was carried over into like um after twenty ten so yeah like that they um get like the people and then they um and then they have the people on those chairs and make them tell about their points of view that kind of stuff and they really brought it nice together with like the with what was actually going on. Yes. Are you there about sitcoms you've never heard of it with sitcom before? Oh no i heard about them and i've actually watched them that's what i said i recognized some of the things it's just that i i'm not that old so i haven't watched that much old so i literally i i only recognized the last uh i only recognized well big things from the last uh last uh type they did i mean i knew some stuff from before but like i don't really watch that so yeah i used to watch that and well my sister used to watch um something from the last type more um more often so um i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i thought that was pretty cool also educational. Should stop what you're doing but watch all uh buried with children right now. Very with children well and yeah that wasn't very much of it. Yeah i watch 18 seasons of it. Yeah i'm not sure if you'd want to watch all of them. I will not sure he would want to watch all of them. What was when uh did they adopt the kid for a while or did she had another kid? No no she was pregnant and then she lost the baby. Okay and then she was the baby. Yeah the actress actually lost the baby. Uh uh like and you know they had been spouting they've been really really talking about how she was pregnant she was pregnant and they were going to have a baby and then she didn't have the baby because something happened in real life and then so they just completely ignored that afterwards you know it never happened in the TV show and then she got pregnant again and they kind of just took her off the show for a while just had her do um bone-in scenes and stuff like that. Oh that's what they never mentioned it. That's what you'd love to like uh her family or something. Yeah yeah she went into like a season with her family or something. So um they just kept on watching a baby but they never mentioned it on the show and then they adopted a kid or like cousin or something just showed up and stayed there and then they you know retcon to that and then they brought the kid back but he'd been like hiding out of the Darcy's it's out confusing. I've never watched them all in order but if you want to watch like true sitcoms a lot of the beginning stuff of one of vision was more towards like the witched in Dick Van Dykeshow asked. Yeah but you pretty much taught me a big Marvel fan for her one division. Yeah but I mean yeah but I don't think he is yet. I'm a big Marvel well uh no I'm not really very proficient with the comics but I did. When I watched him one division you must realize I've spent that entire summer just watching Marvel movie after Marvel movie after Marvel movie. So the hits just keep on coming. Yeah then I've seen like uh an Easter egg and I and um I'm like oh that's the thing and then uh in the YouTube video which I saw about the thing they like all that so cool and I'm like how did nobody notice that for 10 years or something. I know for like very long time because I'm like oh yeah I've just watched the two movies after each other like this like I watched a movie and then I'm a couple of other movies in between and then other movies. Yeah very easy that kind of stuff. How are you one of the simpsons? Simpsons. Simpsons. No one. No one. But since the thing that's in the movie well I didn't watch the movie so fair enough. I get to like 40 seasons now or something. Something like that they still just the hits just keep on coming. There's a lot of comedy and history. Yeah. I know that predicted the laws of stuff that's for sure. Well you do all my stuff I'm sure it's going to happen you you know. It's kind of like the spray effect. Yeah, if you're going to do enough stuff, then eventually you'll be right. If you're going to spout a bunch of nonsense for like a year nonstop, then eventually you'll find something. Somebody might look back at it and find something which will have happened. Right. Yeah. And then when you're done watching the Simpsons, you can move to South Park. No. I've also heard about South Park. Yeah. Less than a minute. Mostly, um, uh, well, the thing I can remember now is when Rick and Morty said, my socks have now joked it. What? Happy New Year. Happy New Year. And you know, all them Texans out there. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, Joe, Danny. Happy New Year. What you do to do is just find yourself some Nick at night and go back and watch things like, uh, like I said, watch, uh, be witched and, um, uh, what was a little bit Dick Van Dyke show. The problem with the names. They changed, uh, the dick. Yeah. McHale carries. McHale back and watch McHales neighbors. Oh, that. Absolutely. Yeah. Or, or, or, uh, Filk. Yeah. Um, no, what was, Hogan's heroes. Hogan's heroes. Yeah. Don't know, um, what was the show, uh, was Sergeant Billco. Uh, Sergeant Billco. No, that was the movie. The, the, the, the TV show was named after the actor. Oh, um, Phil Silvers. Yep. The Phil Silvers show. That was a good show. Didn't see that one. Okay. Yeah, I show. I don't think I'm very much a, uh, sitcom person. Well, that depends on the premise of the sitcom. Of course, like, if it's school, like, fat and see probably, like, something, I know, um, good character, second stuff. Um, and I start watching it from the first time it's released. Well, then I can just keep an updating basically, or like, if it's, like, hermit craft, I, it, it's, that's kind of a sitcom, right? It, except it's made, not made by a TV crew. It's made by just bunch of random people on the internet playing Minecraft. Hey, Joe, did you realize there's a Sergeant Billco movie starring Steve Martin? Yes. Yes. I watched that too. It's a good, well, the decision movie. It's like less than two stars on, on rotten tomatoes. 31%. What do I know? Yeah, usually with when people say that movie saw, um, I usually, um, I usually don't mind. Like, it's very rare. That would be, that matters. How it sucked, why it sucked, and who says it sucked? Yeah, true. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Or maybe you just like it, maybe, maybe it, um, yeah, good. My, if it's something which could be better. Well, yeah, I generally don't go for stupid comedies. Well, that's my, that's the sum sum. The sum sum and, yeah, it's not my stupid comedy. It's this. Well, okay, don't look. It's not all these, uh, what's his name, uh, cartoon? No, no, no. No, there's this one guy that does a whole lot of really stupid movies as a really stupid character. And they, he makes a lot of money doing it. I don't know what to carry. No. Oh, describe it a little. Well, the water boy, the water boy Adam. Oh, um, Sandler. Yeah, I'm Sandler. I cannot stand anything he's done. Yeah, and the name is familiar. Adam Sunder is he isn't Jake from Brooklyn and 90's he? No, that's, uh, no. Um, that's, I say Sandler. Yeah, um, dang old on. Oh, come on. Right. There's more with both of them in it, too. That is players like that. This is a 90's Sandler. Yes. Yeah. Similar name. This is both in a at the beginning and then S at the end. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, a lot of good actors in that show. Yeah, Brooklyn in the United States. It's a good line season just up like yeah, with like nine episode Yeah, I can only watch a few seasons of that before it just got to be too much the same thing, but I'm very proud we're really made that show more than anyone else in Terry Carl. It's actually I haven't seen the latest season yet, but I do love the previous season say um they they they they do have a it it it well they don't really have a like a repetitive thing that's the thing I can't really find that like some um no but always all the sticks are repetitive I think they bring out of stories at one point though There's always that um that company which he signed up for the pyramid scheme I always want them to resolve that that's like something I just want to happen there's a list of stuff they could fit they could just like address and boom yeah boom boom camera I haven't watched an ages and I'm tired so have you watched the movie idiocracy oh yeah not usual why does that smell that would make me feel honky honky uh honky you're asking idiocracy look it up look it up status documentary ever yeah pretty much like judge pulled it off the off of the rotation because he said I wasn't trying to make a documentary I was trying to make a satire Terry Cruz is fabulous in it Terry Cruz is fabulous and then everything he wasn't going to go to the linebacker fair enough um it's I want to throw up get smart if you're going to chance to watch the real series of hits smart it's one of the best I can stream that on Cody nobody remembers who are the producers on that the producers wasn't that uh uh oh god damn it it was Mel Brooks and rock Henry that's a I knew Bill Brooks that's all the name of searcher you know I don't really recognize most of those names I I'm only just like a kind of semi-young person who um only recently actually started watching movies and stuff with uh stuff that's more mainstream media stuff so you've never watched Mel Brooks movies I've heard of it might have I didn't know well there are great Mel Brooks movies and there are sad Mel Brooks movies that's very true you can't beat blazing styles or young Frankenstein oh I've I've watched blazing saddles that's how it works I yeah well then on that's a movie that could never be made today oh no it's a great movie it's a great movie yeah it's a well depends on where it's made yeah solid like in some places it's not as much as a problem as uh as in America yeah I do we're talking about that before I've been talking for well well I started at for me it's uh it was um uh quarter past one I think yeah quarter past one and it's now uh about ten past seven so yeah um it it's being a while already solid movie was a great movie but the the the frustrating thing is I really wanted somebody to talk I know it's called silent movie and I know it's supposed to be a period on silent movies but I really wanted somebody to talk oh yeah there wasn't episode in show we were watching as family and it was supposed to be like um well if not completely silent mostly silence because the guy who it was focused on was dead dead so um uh it pretty quiet movie pretty quiet episode but you just want someone to talk like if you just read like tech like all the sounds muffled and the detects their text explaining uh what the people are laughing or signing then it's a bit like yeah then it's something just want someone to talk or something I anxiety was fantastic space balls I really did not like space balls really I've heard of it I thought they made a remake then they it's sort of like Robinhood men and tight they should have never made the movie but then they should have never made uh Robinhood prince of thieves either which is why he made the movie exactly but that's but that's why I mean if it's stupid to the point where he's fried and I looked at movie well yeah this is a brightest place yeah we were not talking about princess right now but I just thought of it right yeah yeah I love the space balls because it's such a it makes so much fun of it but it's it's just so fun I'm a mug half man half dog my own best friend maybe we maybe I would get a reference if I actually had watched it yep so it was uh you know wookie's that's something uh that a parody of wookie's in space balls called a mug which is easily a set of half man half dog ah yeah okay half man half dog played by John Candy president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Duke Amacho love words gotta get your lecture lectures uh going back to idiocracy of course yep rondo you know I think blazing saddles right is that I personally wouldn't find it that bad if it would just be made in the modern time if it would be made today um I personally wouldn't think it as a bad concept because um it not I'm not talking about remix and just like if the thing the original would be made in the modern day or would like modern uh atmosphere I wouldn't personally find it bad but I think many people would misunderstand the meaning behind the movie itself and therefore I think it's it's like um promoting racism or stuff and we were talking earlier and um we noted that there's a lot more um focus on race and stuff in America and that's very interesting I'm actually quite interested to know why specifically in America and what is there an equivalence of that in like Europe that kind of dips into a whole well of um yeah that's uh it's a it's a it's a it's a a dark muddy place that is hard to explain and go over and try to um thank you because there's a lot of people who have very very so this last couple years has shown that there has been a lot of people who have very strong feelings on either side of many different conversations and they do not feel like that there's any reason why they should ever you know try to find a happy middle ground to anything uh with that and with COVID in mind and with other things yeah so anytime any of those sorts of kinds of get brought up you're going to find where people sit on that and they just kind of feel nobody nobody wants to find a happy middle ground they all want to hold on this side very strongly and the the whole conversation will you know we'll just turn into a uh you know that sucks uh not a conversation but just shouting that so it's yeah you don't want to necessarily want to what but you know wait into the grounds get it we'll talk on your opinion of the certain orange skined curtain it all have the pence and you're paying on and and people's you know perceptions of things that are going on and people's perceptions of everything and uh is one right is the other right doesn't matter it there's there should be a happy reason right that's that's more like the questions people should be asking like I'm sometimes astounded by how quickly people are to anger just I'm personally a very just mellow chill person by nature but just I am very bold by your statement what no it's I'm I'm kidding I'm kidding I know what you say you said he was very angry by my statement but yeah basically people usually just get that angry like about that kind of stuff when the whole point of talking about it is not getting angry right and there should be you know people should have a discussion and then things should go into place to to and they could want to fix the problems but if people are going to be angry yeah if people are going to be angry well if people are you know if if they're if you can work it out together and can find a compromise well maybe not everyone will be happy but at least everyone will be equally frustrated at the solution and then we're all more equal and I think I think that's is isn't that a thing people want nowadays to be more equal to be equally frustrated I don't think so well they're more equal than if if if the other person is more frustrated then eventually problems will arise that way and people will complain and that kind of stuff if you are more frustrated then you are more likely to complain about it and that can so if both you are equally frustrated and both know that of the other people of the other person and you at least got to rip them off or something like that they you both the best way to have a compromise is that both parties think they got the better deal that's actually it like if that doesn't work then both parties have to be frustrated but if the best compromise with people who don't want to see the other side is for them to both think they've won at the same time and because they'll never talk to each other they will not notice that they've actually both have got equal so or at least what how much they are worth like equal to what they're worth basically like I wouldn't give like one person as much as a thousand people yeah got you yeah I might my point being that it's it's just a tough conversation to get into because people's yeah and again people are stupid that way yeah it's that it's that it's around here I think if if you've never seen the I know you haven't but I and if you ever looked at the some of the HBR mailing lists anytime there was something come up about like COVID and you know masks and backs and it's like that a lot of that is just it's shaky ground because people seem to to stand firm on whatever they believe in the community yeah it gets it no one wants to kind of wait and wait into that middle ground at all and try to find the compromise they all want to hold tightly onto whatever it is they believe so you try to kind of you know you're touching on it a little bit like in this situation and then you just back away graceful yep yeah just thought that yeah the blazing saddle isn't actually I wouldn't think that that is something which wasn't too much of a problem subject matter no were the wording that was used the vocabulary that was used would not fly at all maybe yeah yeah I haven't watched it in a long time I don't think yeah vocabulary but the underlying message is something which could be could be something today it's basically like racism bad and um not racism good and um I I do remember to scene where they like go from the fake town into Hollywood and stuff and that that was funny very very well done yeah I've got the cleansing in my head hey boys look who I found hey where do I pull my neck I get a lot of it it's just like the words and stuff that you just that that would just not fly yeah the verb well it's really supposed to most rich or prior not only one little too most people actually um who fight are actually like uh the same type of people who just have a different perspective I know it's just that that's just something I uh yeah yep and they're both saying that exact same time so yeah that's funny you have been listening to hecker public radio as hecker public radio does work today show was contributed by a HBO artist like yourself if you ever thought of recording podcast click on our contributally to find out how easy it means hosting for HBO has been kindly provided by an onsthost.com internet archive and our synced.net on the satellite stages today show is released on our creative comments attribution 4.0 international license