This is Hacker Public Radio episode 3,741 from Monday the 5th of December 2022.
Today's show is entitled, HPR Community News for November 2022.
It is part of the series HPR Community News.
It is hosted by HPR volunteers and is about 55 minutes long.
It carries an explicit flag.
The summary is, HPR volunteers talk about shows released and comments posted in November 2022.
Hi everybody my name is Ken Falon and you are listening to another episode of Hacker Public
Radio.
Today it is community news for November 2022.
Joining me as ever is...
Post, post, post, oh, because...
I don't even believe it, it's difficult to remember who I was then I looked over and I
had written it on the screen there something.
It's not true, it's not true, but it's funny.
This is Dave Morris, he's sort of slightly out of it in Edinburgh.
Oh, hi God.
Alright, before we start, we have called for shows up and there is a free slot this week
as in two days time, free slot.
Remember, HPR is community podcast, it can't stress this enough.
It's not a setback in relax and sure, it'll be grand.
It's not a Spotify podcast all over, probably in Spotify.
It's not where you sit back and there's patron people and there's a team of people behind
us, there's you and there's us.
So you need to record the show and set it in to us, if you don't know what to record, go
hi, I'm a listener, I've been listening for blah, blah, blah, how long and this is stuff
about me, particularly related to tech.
And then we, Dave and I will make sure that we supply you with suggestions for other shows.
And then it's very simple, yeah.
We've got a lot of shows from the same hosts all this year, so now we're coming up to
the end of the year, you New Year's resolution for January 2022 was record a show for HPR.
Get your finger out and do that.
Thank you very much, have a nice day, good bye.
Yes, yes, I reckon that.
Okay, for those of you who don't know, HPR is community podcast where the shows are
submitted by people like you and one of the hosts that's done up to the place was, will
you introduce by Dave?
We have a new host this month and the name is, I believe, I haven't actually heard this
person pronounce their own name, they forgot, they forgot to introduce themselves, we'll
ask them to do that in the future, but I read it as King Easy.
So yeah, or yeah, it's like King Easy, but King Easy, so we'll be doing easy, we'll be
late, super.
So what we do here on this show is Dave and I are the janitors here on HPR, we put down
our mobs for a while and have a quick chit chat about the goings on, the shows that were
posted, anything else that we've been working on, or people who've been talking to us
about or updates, so before without further ado, let's talk about last month's show, starting
with video editing with shop costs on a low end PC, but Mr. X, nice to hear Mr. X again, and this
is quite interesting, I've never heard of this particular bit of software, it sounds quite
intriguing, I must go and look, I've meant to, but I haven't done it, I have been playing
with Caden live recently, just stick together things that people send me on telegram,
that's it, yeah, maybe shotguns easier. I've used it in the past, but from what Mr. X says,
it may have improved significantly, so we'll go with that, it was also, yeah, I'm also
explaining the use of a video editor on an audio podcast, might seem a bit strange,
but this is the man who was able to teach people how to solder using the podcast, so
you did that, that was in a hell of an interview with that one, yeah, so did we have any comments
on that one, Dave? No, commentaries are obviously too busy recording shows, which is excellent,
making Ansville playbooks to configure single sign-on for popular open source applications,
now this is one that I'm busy by your room, fellow leader-lander, and he has a way there to
he's currently sports bit more in Jenkins, GitLab, Keatlook, next-out, auto,
XWiki and Zepit, Zepix, fantastic little project there, not something that I'm going to be using now,
but it is something that I have in my to-do list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't really need
single sign-on on my systems here, because it's just me, but it's it's a fascinating thing,
I was involved in this at work, um, and we didn't do anything like that, so yeah, that it was
most interesting, could have been a bit longer, I mean, I'm not complaining, it's going to have
a little bit more, I wrote down, we should, we should heard more about this, it sounded fascinating,
but anyway, thanks for the shot, actually good idea there in your room and show basically,
yeah, a bit more info on it, will be great, maybe I have to set it up for next-out,
that might be a good idea, you know, taking us an example. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is an application,
it's a yeah for single sign-on. Yeah, good, following day where HPR news,
info sec, but I'm just security by some guy in the internet, those me and the HPR
helicopter, okay, fine, so I'm telling you time in the background, you know, thank you, Dave,
this is what type of squatting is and how spam is used, I did come across an article about this,
but it's it's it's actually scary this, there is really with some of the type sets,
there is no way to know that it's not the website that you think it's going to be.
Yeah, it used to be bad in the early days because you could use different fonts and stuff I think,
could you or you could rely on on the font, but now I know that unicodes here, it could really
can be anything, can't it? Yeah, yep. So yes, we have a comment from shall I start the comments, please
please send in a message, another form of typo squatting and mentions a, another web type of squatting
and sends a YouTube link, which I have to have to confess, I haven't actually looked at, but
yeah, something we should all check out. So the following day we have the next in our
DOS series via hookah, practicing DOS button, sorry, practicing batch files with echo, you can see
how, potentially poor we are a podcasting Dave, I mean surely the people who are doing
better the way, while we're bringing this down here. Anyway, DOS is a general algorithm for
this copyright and system. Anyway, as is part of the DOS series and this is using the echo command
in batch files, which I have used quite a lot in the day, so it's pretty, pretty cool.
Yeah, yeah, it's good to know. Very good to know. It's good. No, no comments on this one, but
yeah, we don't think we want to appreciate it very much. And the following day we have the community
news, where art of 72 is calling us a weirdo apparently. Thank you very much.
Keeps sending the shows they're not doing. We're weirdos, can great t-shirt idea, hang around
hbr on become a weirdo. Yeah, that's it. This was some, some guy on the internet, some comments
about he's been now, he's involved with HBO, he's become a weirdo to all his friends or something
to like, which I love. So he brilliant. Bash snippet of the plurals and messages, how to use English
singular plural words and messages. And I'm sure the audience out there can only, let's
write this to one person. Who the hell is so do this, is it you?
Yes, next I mean, how I cut my finger in a house. Wrong says great tip. I have used
new guest text utilities and projects. I didn't realize it was available in Bash. I understand
that irritating feeling when seeing one files processed or whatever object action is happening.
I often put the plural in parenthesis. So it's one file brackets s processed. Do like your script
Dave, but will probably take advantage of n get text if it is already on my machine. However,
your Bash function would be more portable if writing the script for wider distribution.
Good. So I said in reply. Thanks, Ron. I also encountered get text before, but I never
had any need to use it. I was surprised and pleased to find a command line interface to the
package as well and hope it might be of interest. I have used the poll module, which is
quite complex. Lingua, EN inflect. Now replaced by Lingua, EN inflection, which is very comprehensive.
It even goes as far as brother and brethren in terms of plural. I'd like to show all of them.
Do you have brethren gathered here? Right. Yes, you are not alone. You are not alone.
More HDR news with community. I think some guy in the internet is looking for a catchy title for
these things. This was about address analysis, your attack surface and use the space where
Netflix cracks down of free loaders and Samsung implements a private blockchain to link devices.
As well as talking about the Juno tablet, which was actually a nice addition to the
issue. Yeah, yeah, it's good. The details of the Juno tablet are looking intriguing.
So there were no comments on that one. The next day we had an archer 72. My top Android applications.
There were AIO launcher, which I haven't tried. I don't want to mess with launchers to be
brutally honest with you. Termox, which I use all the time. QK SMS messenger, which I don't use
SMSes that a lot, that much. That's a lot of word not just. I don't use SMS loss anymore.
See Firefox, Opera, Brave, Clear Scan, PDF scanner and Optical Character Recognition, which has
got a donation option. A ten-apot Tuskeye K9 Viber. What did you say Viber was again?
I remember looking at it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember. Audio recorder,
Explore Gupin, File Manager, Libre, Ebook Reader and a multi-timer. And of course, the U.S.
A hand-read your bands. So Viber for mobile is desktop. Your desktop synced to your mobile account
to activate Viber features. It seems to be a sort of messaging application, multi-timers.
All the synced. Okay, I turned off. Yeah, I maybe. I did look at it because I use KD Connect.
So when things happen on my phone, I get pop-ups on my Linux workstation screen and that type of
stuff. You can shunt files around and stuff. Yeah, I'm just going to look at that. Maybe just
see if it's any better. But yeah, interesting. So the following day was another Android one from
me, OSM, Android public transport. And we're showing you how to use OSM, Android how to display
transit routes. So public transport in any given location. Which I didn't know it was since then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks really intriguing. I did have a look on the version I haven't stored here.
Yep, it tells me where the bus stops are, which buses you can catch there and stuff. So yeah,
it's it's looking good. Yeah, it works for trains as well. And the thing that I hate about buses
other than being buses is that you're, you know, you go to a new location. If you're taking a
tram, the tram is following the lines. It can't deviate off, you know what I mean. I train
follows the line. It can't deviate off. But sure, as anything, you know, you need to get up
and get off a bus stop sea. Yeah, and you're traveling along and it's bus stop A and then
bus stop B and then all of a sudden you're a bus stop D because this road works. And then you
go, is this bus stop D or did I miss that? And then you're watching all the advertisements
going around and the thing. And then you see, oh, it's bus stop E coming up. So now you're two
bus stops further down. So that's why this sort of thing is absolutely perfect. That's where
the bus stop is. That's where it should be. And if, if they don't stop, then I can show something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I have done that with, I think you must, uh,
open-stream up because you, you can track your movements with it, can't you? You can
actually see, yeah, it's very real time. Um, because yeah, I've been to the wild parts of
over Edinburgh and not knowing where to get off for, for everyone to be. And knowing approximately
where it should be. And, you know, when looking at the window, you can't work it out, but looking
at your phone, you can say, oh, yeah, it should be at this junction here, that type of thing. Yeah,
yeah, it's really good for that. So yeah, very cool. So shall, it's my turn to do comment. I think
we have one from Kevin O'Brien who says, useful and timely, good show with useful information.
We need to do everything to help people use public transportation. Something I saw on the internet,
a developed country is not one where the poor drive cars is one where the rich use public
transportation. Very good. That's a teacher right there. Indeed. Following day, breaches ever
reaching a by lurking prime, a short episode about the reaching effects of breaches and forgotten
accounts. This is, yeah, this was a bit of an eye-opener to me, I have to admit. So yeah,
quite good. Find out. Yeah, I imagine all the accounts that have been breached over time.
I still occasionally get people probing my mail on the basis that they have access to a password
I had on an old system. I can't remember what it was, even something ages and ages ago.
I can't remember, it's not coming to mind. But yeah, they know the password because I haven't
used the account for years and I've deleted the account and the password was a 30 character one,
and you know, but it still haunts me. There's no danger there at all, but these
bombs are still out there trying to warn me about it. So there was one comment on that by
Hammer on, I guess. Hammer on, very good. Old live journal. I used to love live journal.
Years ago, they changed ownership in terms of service. I did not agree with the new terms of service.
I don't want to delete my account, but I cannot access this unless I agree to the change
terms of service first. So the account sits dormant. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Actually, yes, you write a letter on paper to them and you ask them to shut your account.
Ideally, you write a letter from a European country and you ask them to shut your account.
If you're in a European country, you have a lot more control because you can't take the privacy
office directly. Now, there may be requiring you to prove that you are who you are.
I once was trying to show some of the accounts because they have my email address. And in order
to launch the complaint, then he did my email address, my home phone number, my living address,
my copy of my passport. Yeah, exactly. So a quick call to the privacy officer, put that one to
bed. Yeah, wow. These people always grab in this sort of data. It was data's money these days,
isn't it? Indeed. Following day, expanding your file system with LVM, which is Linux,
volume manager, Ron describes adding a new hard drive to his work computer and expanding his
file system. And this had me worried for very worried because, yeah, he has our disc and then he has
another artist and then he met one big hard disk of both. So now, if either our disc goes,
you've lost both our discs. So I don't know, maybe I'm a bit paranoid about that, but yeah,
I'll go for it off. Yeah, we used to work way back. And then we didn't use that anymore. We
saw alternatives, but I have said it up on a machine here in the past, but it, the machine became
unusable and the end, not nothing to do with that. Yeah, I'm happy. I just with individual
discs to be honest at the moment. So yeah, I would have some some qualms. You need some
pre-spectacular backups and and raiding and stuff to be. Do we have any about you, I would think?
Yeah, but on the other hand, what's a like 256 disc versus a 500 disc? It's like two,
two, 50s discs together. So I was, I was thinking about that. Oh, no, you shouldn't do that, but
on the other hand, yeah, you're not doubling your risk. I suppose you're, yeah, you're increasing
your risk by doing it, but on the other hand, if you've got a good backup in place, you've got
a good backup in place for everything, so what does it mean? Yeah, yeah, it's, I mean, it doesn't
give you some advantages in having a sort of potentially infinite amount of disc, you know,
infinite really, but something that can just grow and grow as you, as you need it to. But yeah,
yeah, I have mixed feelings about it to be honest with you. But these young ones, Dave,
live free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have a, my turn to come in. Yeah, yeah, Zenflow to two says,
love server problems. I run open BSD now, but 14 years. I've just show reminded me somewhat my own
problems. I go. Next day we had, uh, by binnercy, a pine book pro review. And if I'm not mistaken,
sneaky old BSD popped its nose in here as well, as it does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, there it is.
BSD, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we're being taken over by BSD, Dave.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it's good to have alternatives.
True, at least the submittials, you know. True, this was a doozy of a show, you know,
massively long and full of full of excellent detail. It, um, yeah, I've got the message that
pine book pro is for hackers. He says it in the almost exactly that way.
Not really a daily use machine. So yeah, I'm, I'm slightly tempted, but finally I don't have
enough hours of the day these days. So well, maybe I have a pine book here. If you want that,
the keyboards and treasures, suppose if you want it for hacking, feel free to have it.
I can send it over. Have a thing. Have a think, Dave. I don't have a lot of comments on this one.
Sorry, I could you off. Oh, sorry. No, it was your turn, actually, to do. It was in. Yeah, I did
one in the last one. Zen Flotter II said, I like the show. I like the show, and I'm a squirrel who
lives in a magical forest in Oklahoma, and I use 149 dollar Chromebook for my main
and read now. There should be a segment of the human race, which suffers like this for fun.
And one of Spoon's comes in with a comment saying programmable wrong. No, no, no, you can't
be conscious to do something as one of Spoon's. It's one of Spoon's.
I just don't know what the game is that you play with them with that new.
Yeah, programmable wrong. I played with old roads and the Ubuntu phone,
then compiled linear JOS and flashed Android, so I recognized the territory. I've
been tempted by bus pirates and oscilloscopes, but I remember that risk v-devices were on
the horizon, so maybe I should read through those instruction sets and avoid the hard work.
And Beez says, Rock Chip, thanks for the benchmarking. Hopefully, the release
an updated version board with OK 35 it is and more RAM. Interesting, yeah. Sun Zoo says,
available distros. Hi, nice show. Thanks for you mentioned the linear's kernel, my handle,
the CPU set up better than BSD's. So I want to mention the Slackware R64, which occasionally
supports the Pine Book, Slackware is relative BSD, like it uses CISV in it instead of system D, for
example. And you could get the advantage of the Linux kernels, hardware compatibility,
long story short. If you like to check it out, here's the link and his link to Slackware and the
Pine Book Pro. It's currently only the current version, but I run it on my Raspberry Pi 4. It's
not broken until I ran it. Sun Zoo. OK, they following day we had
contributing to SuperToxCart by Celeste and loads of links about the game and they were explaining
the workflow to contribute to a floss game with some media assets. Now, immediately, the first thing
that jumps out as one was, yeah, yeah, it's good to know, good to know. And D&T says, car rambling,
Rachel, it's a good idea to record a show by rambling during your drive. Perhaps even a car rambling
series will be worth thinking about. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I made you know that it was
recording while driving. I'm always surprised people can can sand, you know, reasonable. And
and have joined together thoughts on those circumstances. I can't do the joint together just sitting
here in a chair. As I take the train to work, I'm a bit lords to do a HP or a show.
Hi, everybody. It's a type of public radio, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of areas turns around
to look. People do their makeup. I've seen loads of strange things. I've seen people changing,
changing from workloads to particles in the train. All right. One time, hey. Yeah.
How are you going to do that bit? Ah, okay, very clever.
Canterroy, is it your goal or my goal, dude? I think it's yours, actually, because I did the last one.
Damn, first mark. Zoom will be referring to dikes and other water retention stuff.
I really need to find a good way of keeping notes about podcasts. I listened to the go. This was an
episode with some backstory on Hoover Dam. Yeah. I really enjoyed that. Oh, actually.
You also said, damn, damn. No, it was interesting. I, um, when I took my kids to America,
2011, it was, we, one of the bits that we drove around was through Arizona from Las Vegas to the
Grand Canyon. And we sort of fiddled around there. It followed Route 66 as some hooketed. And so we saw
some of those sorts of areas, but not enough. I would love to see more. So I was looking at the
map and understood where he was talking about when he was. I love these travel shows, actually,
because I always have to run to a map and days the places he's talking about. And, you know,
see if I get some pictures or whatever. And it, it is a great insight into the journey that he's
he's taking excellent stuff living for carelessly through someone else. So we're all about. Yeah,
yeah, absolutely. Speech recognition in Caden Live. And this was done by DNT. And how to get
speech records recognition to scrub tongue. Google could do some of that here. How to get some
speech recognition to describe your clips in Caden Live. And you do the first comment?
So it's from Celeste who said, didn't know the feature. Thanks. I completely missed this new feature.
Caden Live has improved so much in the last years. But minute 440, yep, it's both free as in
price. Both Libra open source. And the next comment was by DNT reply. Both Libra open source. Yes,
I used a abundance of caution here to be honest. I only assume Caden Live is open source,
let alone free software. So I'm gonna try not to walk around saying things are free software.
I once heard a very well-meaning person say that Adobe Bridge was free as in speech software.
This was in Portuguese in which there can be no ambiguity between free as in beer and free as a
speech. I nearly felt how to much hear. Thanks for your comments, Celeste. Yeah, ambiguity of English
in this respect is unfortunate. To be honest, the only reason we're with this problem.
And I've done a show about this. The only reason we have this problem is cause somebody thought it
was funny. And it was a stupid named pick. It's a bug and it's a waste of time. And anybody who says
the argument about, oh, it only takes five minutes to explain to somebody about, yeah, but in that
five minutes, you're proving yourself to be a plunker. Yeah, whereas you could be actually
explaining how important the whole free software is. If you add a two additional letters,
freedom's software, why hell? I surely do understand why that's an important thing. Thank you very
much. I can get it into my head. What type of software it is? No, it has to be a joke.
Yeah, and I also think that with naming of projects, for example, yeah, I won't go into them,
but this is around. It's just you're making it more difficult to find your project. You're making
it more difficult for people. You're putting time and effort into something and you're making
more difficult. There's enough barriers in a way without all the crap that we're putting on top
our souls. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I have been guilty of naming projects, stupid, stupid names,
seemed like a good joke at the time, but a year down the road, you were very, very cringy and scared
of ever mentioning it again. Yeah, don't go it. Yes, it's hard to do projects, but yeah, something
is important is that then outsource it to somebody. It's not just freely for software.
There's somebody who has named a kitchen appliance a cougar. Now, Dave, what would you think
that would be a cougar? Something that cooks ever to mention? Exactly. It's a kitchen appliance
all right, but not another or a cougar, which is the generic name for that item in which you
bake something in every Irish kitchen. No, it's a water tap that provides you with scolding
help water when you need us and husband calls water. And they call it a cougar, because they're
freaking more on-stave. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And the other side of it was named like that
back in the 1800s before we had the thing called the internet, but they knew it would have zero
Google ability. And yet the name did that. I should have called it a faithful or something.
Yes, it's actually half water tap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well now it's bloody hot. Anyway,
oh, that was a bit of a rant. Oh, and by the way, if you've completely disagree with anything
I'm saying, and then you hit my guts right now, polls, record a show, and send it in. Absolutely,
yeah, yeah. Thanks for the next one. My experience owning an Atari Jaguar. And I thought,
well, this was going to be one of the, you know, your car series ones where my first car was a
my first car was an Atari Jaguar, but actually no, it turned out to be a computer.
Yeah, not heard of this one at all. No, but then I wouldn't have done really, because I'm not into
that sort of thing, but to even my, my son hasn't, to hasn't ever mentioned it. Never, never heard of
that, actually. Hmm, sounds pretty cool. These things when you look at them closely,
rather cleverly built and interesting features and stuff. Yeah, so it's just good to know.
A whole video console for anybody, not knowing. So there's a, a whole lot of sorts of
moved to mess. I've been on master on a lot. A lot of people are into retro game and restoring
these tonsils. That in cats, cats appear to be everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I joined my daughters on
master on that, and we both joined cats of master on and you get absolutely drowned by, I kept pictures.
So yeah, cool. You see on my, uh, awesome, you're sure, list.
You kept talking about how she was going to do a show. Well, I'll certainly,
it's early this year, but that's what you've got. She's distracted, I don't know. I shall
next time I see it, which will be at Christmas, I will say to her, um, about doing that show you mentioned.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we should, uh, if you accidentally, uh, ping her and with my handle,
on there, I can be sure to remind her of her. She might never speak to me again.
See, it's a win-win. Smyth, the battleground of the gods.
And it was just into this while I was cleaning out the turf bunker for my mother.
I'm wondering, should I do a show about turf? Actually, but uh, I don't know. Probably, yes,
if I was, now that I hear some say yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I know the basic principles
of, uh, of 2000s to like that, because because I come from that era, but uh, it would be fascinating
to, to know more. Yep. I'll, uh, I'll, I'll think the next time I'm back in pattyland.
Looking prior on said, let's do a show. Hit me up and let's do a show or six.
Cool, cool, cool, yes. And some go on the internet says, sure, I'm game. Are you on element
struck matrix? The HPR room. I'm also a master on, we can use the HPR mumble server to record.
So, I know that since then, looking Brian is on masterdom. And so, so hopefully there will be
an interesting show coming from the to them in due course. So, uh, I know to you this internet
super server proving that slackware is of inferior operating system. See Dave, see what it did there
did. That doesn't get the slackware people out of the way. Yeah, people typing all right.
Oh, yeah. I don't want them typing or what the recording. So, right in the note, they're going to
say exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I let the super, the internet's super server. And I had never
really considered this so much, but this actually convinced me there are loads of occasions where
I would use this. Yep, yep. It's actually an amazing idea. I found it, um, I was, had a,
a brief conversation with, uh, been, I'll see you about this. Sorry, I'm coughing. Yeah, the
mute on. Um, and, uh, I had, we had a requirement of, um, I did on the, the MS system that I managed,
and I used that for a bit for all manner of things. Um, so you could, you could ask it for a
password, and there was a password generated behind a port. One of the, one of the range above
the normal, normal range. And, uh, so you get a password from it, and you could, you could do,
it was also used as part of the student registration system. They would come,
new students would arrive on campus. They would walk up to a PC. They would hit something or
other to start up an application, and the application let them enter their details and get
stuff about their login and stuff and set a password. And that was all done by, and a, uh, a
program running on the, on the, um, Windows machine, which sent, uh, a blob of data to an
I need to, um, port for the specific purpose. It's just a single packet, this thing received,
and it sent back an acknowledgement, and, uh, an okay when it, it done the, the business, and
that was so easy to write compared to other things. It was lovely. It was really good. So yeah,
yeah, I love it. It's really nice thing. So what it does is it makes writing programs that talk
over the network is super easy. So rather than having to have a web server and all sorts,
and it also goes over SSL. No doubt you said passwords over SSL did because
something in clear text over the network will be a bit silly. But there were a single use password
and it changed a lot of stuff. Yeah. All right. Yeah. It was, it was the days of the 1980s,
90s. But yeah, Thomas was over there. Yeah. We were telling it in everywhere. Yeah, I'm
early. Uh, Sinsa says, Gratial, I always like your shows, but I was wanting to work with net
BSD INAD, which seems to be similar to open BSD cousin for a personal project of mine.
This show came at the right time and I learned a lot. See David, it's a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy
by the BSD. Yes. The BSD is, it's at the gates. Oh, there's a large letting's people when you
need it. And all these VMS people are, that's what I want to find. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Woo. Then Flotus says, then wrote a two. Love this. He says, love open BSD. Try
figure it out sometime. Smurly face. Think it's how you pronounce it. Yeah. That's how he
pronounced it as an article for Goethe, which is an open BSD set in the two first released in
October. Uh, sorry, I can't be right. I mean, it just, it's an open BSD version. So the next one is the
I three time window manager. Again, from archer 72, lots of the same names coming up people,
lots of the same names. These people are not paid professional holes. Yeah. There are fellow
people who have also busy lives who also have time to have taken a few minutes out to record
a show. Yeah. Please share the burden. Thank you. I think it absolutely. I three is in
life's ways of telling window manager. And by telling window manager, we mean div. We mean one
where you say give me window and it it appears on your screen and then you say give me another window
and it slots itself alongside and another window and that slots and they do things like
sites and so they fill the space up and other fun things like that. Yeah. Yeah. They're cool.
They're cool. That's what pretty much what they all did back in the day, I think.
No. I think the other door is using TWM and things like that. Is that not a window? Is that not
a tiling thing? Yeah. The dots overlap. So nothing is hidden. It's all right. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool.
It is. I did not know that you could run I three with KDE. That was largely a revelation.
Yeah. I've got a note to myself to try some of this to see because I have the case where I have
eight virtual desktops and two monitors. So that's 16 desktops and mostly they just have one thing
on them but when I want to have a bunch of things it's such a pain to have to lay them out so that
this one takes half the screen and that one takes the rest of the screen and whatever. We'll be
lovely if you could just say right you do sit over there and you share the space with it and stuff
and it would just all happen automatically. So don't know if I'm expecting too much here but it
would be great. Yep. Following day we had a show by Clatoon and it was either going to be
a two or you that did this show about meta-synthetic words. Blab, blah, blah, literally.
Cool. And having notably what a meta-synthetic word was. I was very interested in hearing the
show and it's about this food bar bath thing which I had been embarrassing me long time wondering
what the hell food bar bath was and very difficult to search for because all example programs
have got food bar baths in it and it was only on one of the good new word order shows that's
Clatoon mentioned in passing. Oh yeah the food bar bath is just a placeholder that you
use like example.com for a domain name when running a program. Ah thank you and this show
explains that so this will now be linked anytime I need to explain food bar baths blah.
No no it's great. It is important. It's always been an issue with writing documentation.
One of the things my first job in IT was one where I did documentation and you had to write
things like the command is such and such a thing and you had to sort of put a token that meant
here's where you put the variable item that you want to to work with and we spent a lot of
time in that department working at what was the best way of signifying this. We ended up using
because this was this was in the days of typing and we got the typist to put sort of
greater than less than greater silence and silence around it. Diamond brackets as we tended to
call them around a word that says you know name of your program or something. Yeah yeah yeah and
but yeah so that has been a problem to have some metacintactic symbol that you can use in that
context. So it is an important thing. I think British English speakers tend not to use food bar
as at least in my experience. They tend to use other silly, more silly words you know like Apple
carrot banana or something the things I've seen documented have used those sorts of things and
there's a thing about the brits have got this thing about rhubarb for some reason. Yeah
about rhubarb. It's a sort of metacintactic word and yeah it means just sort of generic noises
that people make or maybe speech it's interesting to something which is what blah blah blah really is
interesting. No no no no rhubarb has a history because it's used it's used in the theatre
it gives them murmuring sounds in the background where people are having a conversation and you
want them to be a general feeling that people are having a conversation. So you know like rhubarb
rhubarb and it gives a very different tones of when it interacts it sounds remarkably like
people are having genuine conversations. Or that could be just a something I met up. It means
who knows. Yeah we tell somebody to researches and I'm looking forward to the metacintactic
rhubarb show. Anyway I just found the bolt underneath my chair which I don't know if I should
be worried about it or not. It's not the famous bolt from the blue isn't it?
Okay review of cobalt, Libra H20E reader. Yes these are this is a good show and I have a
version of this I think or something from the same family. Yeah I knew of them I knew the name
but I've never researched them. I don't think the Libra H20 is available anymore in any more
but there's quite a range of others. In fact I mentioned it to my family saying this one called
the cobalt clara and just just by the by and so I thought it was name so she's going to ask for one
soon I'm sure. I think that's the one I have and there it's possible to a D you know put your own
firmware and stuff on a D yeah but it's also just simpler to come up with around the email address and
register at the one time and then you'll turn off Wi-Fi after that. Yeah yeah yeah but it I'm intrigued
to find out more about it actually. It's a reading tablet would be nice for the same recent
book that Rome speaks about. Yeah I prefer a preferred book myself but on the other hand if you
go and traveling you're wherever it's nice to have all the books available. Yeah yeah. Thank you.
No comments on that as yet it was late in the month so people need some time to respond
and the following day we had the last one was the K-Mod Money on KDE this was of the
news show by King A-Z and the only way to correct our pronunciation of that name is to send
it another show where you referred to the correct pronunciation yes yes and use schedule tasks jump from
two to three because three had a corruption in the recording okay this was a this is an interesting
I think told you today due to the way tax there's no pay as you are in tax in the US as far as
I understand it people need this a lot more than other European countries where at least my experience
where your tax is assumed is paid at source so there's a lot less tax to be done and
although this was related to checks as I haven't seen the checks since I left Ireland.
Yeah yeah that's very true it's a little bit waving cards things these days or something
but still it's I have no real need for for such a thing anymore but it does sound quite
interesting the fact that it know you can tell it about recurrent payments and that type of thing
would be would be very helpful you know the thing that reminds you to to pay something
if you don't want to set up some sort of standing order or those types of things
so yeah sounds intriguing you just so happened that I was listening to a new world order
today in fact I'm way behind of all my podcasts and um um
can't he was talking about came my money in his list of packages as he got up to it and he was saying
that if you're setting an up for New Zealand it doesn't doesn't know about New Zealand or Australia
which caused me some some puzzlement have to say I've been there quite a long time you know
well you know there it's apparently it's an internet myth that's a New Zealand doesn't exist or
is that there's nowhere somewhere yeah yeah it's not an important fact I'm pretty sure
intriguing okay put cool chill taking an application reviewing it sending it in brilliant idea
love it yeah it was absolutely and that brings us back to the comments for the last six
comments on five previous shows they glad to have a show about spec to grum and mr x says what
a great tip I glad to I just wanted to say I was intrigued by this podcast by the way this is
about audacity the function of a spectrogram in audacity continuing on intrigued by this podcast
and I took notes to try this out when I guess bare five minutes I just opened my most recent show
into a dusty and selected the spectrogram view the results are amazing and any involuntary noises
become so much more visible making them easy to pick out our move I will be sure to use us
in future shows thanks again for another brilliant show cheers mr x thank you
some of the comments in this list just between you and me can a highlighted in green minid we read
them last time but I think it got it wrong my algorithm went a tiny bit haywire because we had
comments in at funny times or we recorded at a funny time or something anyway um so I think the one
from been our sea had already been dealt with but the comment from Zenflo to the on Zenflo to
show about cars from dnt he he says pedestrians and cyclists recently I heard a
controlled person here in Kansas City which is in west Kansas I don't know what was our most
and for I can't remember that one anyway what if a that's the only sense of city
the city okay there's I think Kansas spreads there's a Kansas City on one side in Kansas City
on the other side yeah yeah it's like spring Kansas City in Kansas City but no this is the same
city it's just a different side of the different states and I thought it was like there's always
that a city called such and such in every state but anyway um having heard here in Kansas City
talk about how these bigger vehicles that replacing cars were also far more likely to kill a
pedestrian or a cyclist in a collision saying nothing of squirrels I'd never considered that
they designed little regard for what might be in their path thanks are pretty together this show
and stay safe out there I think we read all the other one as far as I can recall sorry it was uh just
putting that bolt back in and then the cheerful doe hit the washing machine hold all sorts of stuff
all right so sort of a lot of hardy time yeah very like yeah it sounds if it brought to
washing machine I could get out of the sauce I'll turn it off for another so we're all done
meal list discussions let's see what chats we have towards quiet on the mailing list this month
usually that means there's going to be a shit storm next yes yes yes yes just some guy talking
about the community news that's all yeah it always keeps popping up that guy so yeah that was
it was easy so there yeah go ahead take that I was going to say that we can move on to any other
business if you're up for it and um one of the the subjects that I added this time was about the
HPR SS feeds and HTTPS links and the question came up in November I say regarding the HPR
RSS feeds all of the URLs in these feeds use HTTP as opposed to HTTPS although this may
seem odd this is a fairly common thing to do because the RSS standard such as it is does not
cater for HTTPS links there is a concern that passing an RSS feed with such links to a validator
such as the W3C feed validation thing the result and it being marked as invalid don't know
that that it's necessary true but it's it's a it's a it's a thing that could happen and there
were other validators might reject them so that's why we've stayed as we as we started is that right
can yeah pretty much but the vast majority of new podcast players switched to assume that there's
a HTTPS link available under use that so that's fine I don't know I'm just informing
wanted to inform people that's why it is if you have them and so are you have a huge objection
to us then there's not almost yeah yeah we can certainly look into it but now I had not I was
not aware that that was the case I knew RSS was a pretty sort of hazy standard or non-existent
even but I wasn't quite clear how how little have been done to sort of ratified in the in the
time since it was invented so yeah that was a bit disappointing actually but there you go yep that's
it's so the other A or B thing it's just say that the process of updating the very shows that I've
mentioned every month is progressing managed to do 230 in November because they are up the rate
to doing 10 a day because I realized if I did that we would actually have it finished by the end of
December assuming I don't get run over by a Santa Claus or something then then so yeah looking
like the 29th or 30th of December is the end of the end of the day so yeah so it's just it's
a joke in a way good no doubt I'll find something else for you to be doing Dave don't you worry I tend to
know that for myself actually and nobody nobody need be tiling under the thing under the action oh
I have nothing to record a podcast about sure I wasn't the ever to know what to record a podcast
but I have literally books upon books of creative common stuff that can be narrated and
positive to a podcast no excuse there for anybody getting contacted with me and I make sure
we can volunteer you for something near your problem there sir yep yep good stuff good stuff
alright that would be yeah that would be my best Irish accent there to genosis oh sure we got it
yeah well yes absolutely absolutely okay that's it Dave we're done this is possibly been the worst
stage we are confusing use that we've had but I'm sure we can drag it down even further if we
apply ourselves yep yep so yeah we we need to draw in along to keep it on that
you can take too long so that's fine okay tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode of
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