This is Hacker Public Radio episode 3,864 for Thursday the 25th of May 2023. Today's show is entitled 22,223 new years show episode 8. It is part of the series HP or New Year's show. It is hosted by HP or volunteers and is about 123 minutes long. It carries an explicit flag. The summary is 22,223 new years show where people come together and chat. Oh, and it's cool, old-style radio, and you ripped the guts out and put something else in? That's something I need to do. I haven't done that yet. Okay, I'm back. It's my... That's my cell phone. That's my cell phone. That's my cell phone. That's my cell phone. No, he said it was a tell what? Tell a funk in. It's a German radio. It's AM in shortwave. Oh, cool. It's got the fast sound quality of any over-the-air radio that I've ever heard. It got dropped in a move and a tube broke inside and I haven't opened it up to look at it. But someday I will before that when you turned it on, the signal strength was in this green tube. It looked like fucking plutonium getting tighter and tighter, the stronger your signal was. You can watch it too. And it glows like fucking kryptonite. Superman was run in fear when you tuned in your radio station, it was terrific. Nice. That's very sad that it broke. It's because I would make an AM transmitter just to see that thing work again. It was that cool. Yeah. It should fix it. I know. I should some day I have to learn about tubes. I don't know nothing about tubes. Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. You mentioned, you mentioned. Sound quality, well, motorcycling. And like my brother, like I said, he motorcycles. He wears a helmet. He absolutely hates in ears. So, he had me make custom pair of the LGs on the bike, or hates in ears off the bike to his head. Hey, it's in ears. In general. Okay. So, I love them off the bike. But yeah, they're impossible on the bike. He's right about that. He had me modify some of the LGHBSs so that he could use the ones that hook behind the ear and then sit on top of it. And that was an interesting build. And it sounded quality. You know, the driver's over that expensive. What I would recommend for even Dope or Project in that is, if I know if he uses Senate or Cardo and buy a helmet, clamp a helmet, kit, whatever matches that brand. The kits are universal. So it does, you just find, if it's Senate, get a Senate, like whatever model he has, match that. And wire a cool set of headphones to that, they need volume. If they have to be clear at volume, I usually wind up blowing mine out because I turn them fast or you're going the more wind noise there is that you're trying to defeat. So you just smoke the speaker. So a bigger speaker that you turn it down over here, a bigger speaker that you can under your drive is definitely preferable, but you have to be conscious of the size of the ear company. Right. Because it's going to be right up against your ear plugs to work. Take apart some BT770s, some of the high ohms. They allegedly come with some pretty good ones now. The Cardo's are coming with JBL's and Senate after being just smoked in the reviews for like three years are doing harm in Cardin, which apparently is owned by JBL. So it's probably the same speaker anyway. Time out real quick from audio stuff. I don't want to keep a go. It's Taj and Lyle, X1101 are not here right now. Do they love you so much? I've heard you've never met you and I, I'm thrilled to meet you. You haven't. Then I'm going to asshole. No. What's that? And I've heard these links first. Did we really which one? And so I had when we first started the podcast, you're the one who sent us the audio that we used for the beginning of the show, which was together by Clotto and Brom that weird little. That's all. That's all. When I saw you, because down I was sitting around in one of those rooms, I was talking with Rich for a little bit and then I just kind of came over and was like, hey, you know, thanks for sending that to us because you actually sent it, I think, to 50. But yeah. Probably very rich man, but the way I talked to you very briefly, so well, I'm pleased to do. You're awesome. They're right about you. Okay. Thank you. No. But yeah. Wall of audio. Well, one of them. Oh. Yeah. The fish thing. Looper. Audio. Second. No. It was Skogandy. I was goofing. And I'm grateful to Ed's wall of sound. Fraser. Thank you. Gorkon. Thank you. See, people, this is one of the five ones, sometimes you give them a lay-up. No. I think that would be interesting. Actually, one of the things I think would be kind of nice to do is I currently have a Bluetooth headset I use for zoom calls for work and it works, but I like to have one that's more comfortable. I just haven't found one. It's reliable and more comfortable. He just doesn't tell you how to build one. I know. Here's the one Joel sent me. I like that. That was nice. That was nice. Yeah. The LG tones. It's on camera. In case you were wondering, Joel. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. I like to link it, but yet, was this the battery bad on this? No. The battery still works on them all really good. I don't know because the battery didn't look swollen, but something had obviously shifted position and that had pushed the drivers outward and all I did was pushing back together in a good place and they worked fine since. So has anyone else tried the pine buds yet? No. They've able to worry it. I got mine. They're pretty well. I'm not a big fan of any sort of in-ear headphones, but they have pretty good quality and they seem to work. Nice. Nice. Murphy N.J. Indeed. How's the, how's the Hyundai, brother? The, um, what was that screamer among that? I don't have a Hyundai. No, you did when, you gave me a ride your Hyundai. I've never owned a Hyundai. I had a. I had an Acura RSX and now I have a BRZ. No, before that. In 2009, when we met at NEL, or 2011, it might have been the third NEL. That would have been the, um, Acura RSX. Hmm. Are you sure you're, you're questioning whether I know whether I own a particular brand of car and pretty sure. Yeah. No. It just strikes me that I saw a picture of your Acura. It was red one, but the car we were in was a Hyundai, a white, not Tiberon. What was the other? The real hot shit, Hyundai. It did a lot of shipping. No. No. It had a dark, silver RSX and have never owned a Hyundai. Really? Hmm. Who's car did I, that might have been flyin' rich as car? The flyin' rich, flying rich for Genesis, which is, at the end of the day. Yes. Thank you. I'm sorry. Probably talking about his. I hope. I was only looking to show yours. Yes. I drew that your car also, but only pictures. I'm sorry, that my bad. It's okay. I love the fact that you're like, are you sure you didn't know that? But yeah, pretty sure I know which car is I've owned. Yeah. This is making sure that my memories weren't completely invented. They're had to be some, you know, root, you know, to ground a truth somewhere. I'm still processing the fact that you mixed me in flying rich up, but, you know, I'm working on that. I would, I would call that. I don't think so. Yeah. Me too. No, no. Much love for both of you. You guys are on, are on equal, love levels. It was just, less thing after one guy, less thing after one guy's car, in pictures and going for a ride in a lusty car, come on, you got to forgive me for forgetting that, you know, 15 years ago? Come on, man. Get it together. Hey, if you want to see the car I'm driving now, you can look on my Master Dom profile. So, there you go. I did, I got the right in, um, what was your name? Crap, I can't remember her name, Amber. You got the right in Amber, and then you found her name? No, Amber Granger. Sorry, Amber Granger. We're always getting a little, little messed up, Joel. Yeah. Is your wife, no? She knew this, I took a ride with her, but in her car, though, she had a, uh, oh, why the dashboard light. You guys were doing it in the car, that sounds like that, uh, no, Amber, come on, come on, folks, we're not doing phrasing here, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, it is absolutely comfortable. We have to have the right car. You have to have a fox body. That's right. Mustang. Cool. Ooh, that's old. So am I, what do you do? I know. So am I, too. Hey, Amber has a Dodge Challenger, one of the newer ones that was, um, pretty freaking sweet. She came to self, uh, for a little bit, um, she spoke, uh, LF this year. So for, what, LF was this year, which wasn't a whole lot, uh, I live in it in the same town as LF. So it's kind of hard to tear myself away when the family knows I'm just a few minutes away, you know. Yeah. So, Murf, did you keep the accurate or you just sold it on with the next one? Do you have any older cars? Nope. I only have the one daily driver, the RSX, I drove to 289,000 miles and then, uh, dumped it off. Not, wow. Nice. Wow. Good. Yeah. The, uh, car I'm driving now, the BRZ, I only have 16,000 on it. So it's, you know, mostly broken in at this point. Do you say 168 or 168? Wow. So, night, it's so, what year's that one? That's a 2014. Okay. What was the cut off of the first gen in second gen? Uh, good question. 2018, 2019 something like that. I'm definitely first gen. Okay. That's what I thought. Okay. I just drove a 2020. So it's second gen. It's the first time I've ever driven a BRZ and it was plenty impressive. It was absolutely, um, communicative and responsive and, uh, communicative and responsive. Like, just, dude, it had it. It spoke to you. It was a great car. Yeah. I really enjoyed driving. People look at it and say, oh, is it fast? I'm like, no, it's not fast. Doesn't have fun to drive. Yes. I have a man. Right. And it's just a riot to drive every, I would rather have a car. I can drive and enjoy every minute of it than an exotic that I'm, pounding, pounding pieces on the streets in New Jersey and not even getting it to, you know, 410. So what it's potential. This car. Drive and I fun with the way it is. Do you ride motorcycle's tumor? Indeed. I do. Middle weights, lightweight. I have no idea what classifies is what I have a, uh, 2009 triumphant America and it's a, uh, an 800 and it's, uh, plenty for me. 800 is upper middle weight. Yeah. Yeah. I love middle weights, dude. I, the lighter the better, um, but I, but I like to ride long, long distances. So it's hard to go with like a, you know, a 300 or 400, but, um, yeah, I love it, dude, I love that long gaze on middle weight bikes that bikes got to be, do you ride it long? You know, I don't ride it that long anymore. A lot of the, uh, you know, they're, they're not doing the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, charity runs. So I don't get out as much as I used to that and working from home. So I'm not commuting on it and I'm not doing any big rides. So I don't ride as much as I used to. No, I didn't mean big rides with a lot of people. Like I, I, I, I go alone, but I go, I try to go out, done it two years in a row now. I try to go for four, four days, three nights and just go camping. Now, I tend not to do stuff like that tend to do, you know, one day trips or one day out and back type of thing. Yep. Yep. Yep. We've done it in the car. We, we got them to add it. So I do it. I totally get the BRZ. Yeah. Definitely cars in the same spirit. It's in the same spirit of that size and class of motorcycle, particularly, yeah. Yep. So just, bring in it out from time to time. You don't always have to be nuts, but you don't always have to be sane, you know, and occasionally making your passenger screen. Yeah, I always like to say a little minor work. Yeah, so everyone's in a while. I love the attitude. Oh, it's got to spit take out of you. Oh, I wish I would. Oh, this has been so lovely, but I think if I stand a chance of getting to church in the morning, I need to start closing my eyes. Yeah. Well, I caught you while you were on, though, having talked to you in man, when was the last time I talked to you, and one of the new, he's Linux fast, I think, which is a zillion years ago. Yeah, that's, oh, and that's what I'd like to figure out before I go, if, if you don't mind. Oh, give me a go. Which one was it at? Which location? Uh, I, uh, I talked to you at the one, the, uh, the last one. So it was at that hotel. If it were two with hotels, uh, one in Worcester, no, one in the Elvis Cambridge, no, in a hotel. No, no, I think it's back. Oh, we talked in the hotel after Cambridge. Yes. So there was, there was, I went to the one where it was at, um, the, um, the, in my team. College. Not at my team. I think, uh, the one where, uh, that, uh, what's his name worked at? Uh, not to. No, not to. I'm sorry. Um, because it was run by, uh, uh, uh, what was it in my case? Not Harvard. Uh, but it might have been Harvard. Was it in Cambridge? There aren't that many of them. Was it the Highland School of Computers? Is that what it was? Um, maybe. They had no idea. Yeah. There. So the two people who ran the event was, um, um, something made out in, uh, um, um, my, one of my best church buddies actual, but it was the best man at his wedding, total, total coincidence, small world, um, which are the, no, Jonathan's partner. Oh, um, yes. I'm trying to remember his name too. I was buying you time. But he. Thank you. Uh, yeah. He thought he worked at, uh, at the college. But the, uh, I wanted to, so I went to two, so I went to Obama, was at the college, and then the following year they did one, and, uh, they had to swap the news several times, and then it won't have been in a hotel, and they had, like, uh, uh, two, they had two rooms, but they had, like, two rooms. One was like a bigger room for, or maybe with three rooms. Well, I know I spent, uh, the good time, uh, sitting with door, and then I, uh, there was getting hauled. Oh, okay. So they had a separate whole, uh, they had a holy separate room for vendors. And you were open in there, and we were all just going to hang it out in that room for a while. Did the room with the HPR booth, did I have a really high ceiling, and we were throwing party poppers that jump in the air, or was it, like, a low lower ceiling in a bunch of, makes you, like, tighter, tighter. Okay. So I could almost say that the HPR table was way in the corner, like, uh, almost by, like, where there was a window or something, really bad. That was where we were. Yeah. Uh, that was the year that X went on one actually showed up, and, uh, started talking to you, and I wish I was a little bit more, talkative back then, that I would have, you know, met and talked with him and other people, but I just thought it was on your end. I, well, I, I mostly talked actually, I, you had been the third host, and I wouldn't have been involved, because you're a lot more like him, when I am, that's that true at all. They've, they've told him. Especially, especially, don't you ran the shot from off the, uh, the book club. And I had missing the book club. They don't, well, it also shot off of, um, dev random. There's even still an HPR room up there. It shot up, and when Lyle went to get the, um, domain, he went for it, dev randoms. Like, damn it. They got it. Who's got it? Motherfucking pokey. And, and I don't have it, and I don't have those shows, and I would give almost anything to get them. Devon, I'm still around. I had, I had a bunch of them, I got them off of them, uh, I want to say, I kind of got an orgasm. They're still there. Right. Oh, I got to have him. I got to have the, the little lot, the whole host, skit dev, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm out of the bunch of them, I wouldn't, um, I want to say around the time that 50 died at that side, I was going to, re-listen to a lot of the older dev randoms, because I, I was searching around for the pastings that he had done, if I'm links, if I'm links to all of the older dev randoms. Does anybody, does anybody know a sound chaser? Still? No. Because I, I chased him off then dev random unintentionally, and I would love to apologize to him for it. If anybody sees him tell him, I'm, I'm sincerely deeply sorry, and I, and I still love the guy. You mentioned that the, uh, episodes are up on archive.org. That sounds like something that they would very likely have, and it would be really hard to search for. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Which is a really nice way of saying, here's a link, bokeh. It's. Yeah. Either way, if, if, if, if, if, if be great. I miss Chat with Peter 64. He was just such a great guy. Do, he was everybody's brother from another mother. Isn't he? Yep. I'm friends with him on Facebook. Can I see all the, he's been posting a lot of Astronomy pictures lately. Yeah, he was the first guy in my circle sphere that ever mentioned, um, I don't know, maybe, like Google Earth or something similar on a handheld device out in the, hmm. Yeah, he's great guy. Be cool. If he would pop in here, but in the as was a feeling, man, I miss that guy. As was as since you mentioned him. Yeah. You remember as? Uh, I think I think I do. Yeah. Yeah, as was so cool. So, so cool. I see how past, right? Oh, what's, as no, I have no idea. I hope not got to open on. Yeah. He was just such a cool guy. Just so mellow laid back. I was one of the older guys. So that's, that's why I said that, but I hope he didn't need her. Yeah. Out in Montana, just super friendly, super neighborly, you know, you want to go meet him personally. Go right ahead. He'll meet up with you. I think he met with Peter 64. In fact, when, when Peter came to the West Coast, or I completely fabricated that because they're both such great guys that they would do that. Yeah, they both would. I don't remember Peter came out. He came, well, that was the same year. He came there to go to the South East. I'm, they haven't been, more of the years I missed. I can't. I've been every Southeast and the Northwest, and I've gone to more since they switched to the, I've been to more of them at the shared Charlotte Airport, which is like their permanent home now. Then I have been to the others. I didn't go to the one at Clemson or the one at the, trying to remember that hotel. Jeremy tells us a story about about that. And he had that in the speech few years ago. I think it was the 10th year for the Southeast Northwest. That he did a recording with, uh, asked Noah on, uh, the history of Southeast Northwest. And it, I was also to the one where the wedding party crashed the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, last party. Me, Dave Yates and, uh, Patrick Wolkerding were, howl hanging outside. And one of the, I'm assuming a prize made or somebody attending the, the reception to that wedding, uh, she comes out. Goes, we love computers and flashes her tits. And Dave and Patrick never even noticed me and Dan are, they have double in Dan, her stay in there like with her mouths open. We're like, uh, okay. You know, it's funny. I was at that one and I had to run a, get something out of the hotel room. I just missed it, right? Yeah, you just missed it, I think. Yep, exactly. And I'm like, Dave, how could you not notice this very fine set of tits? Um, actually, I know how, because I've met his wife. Who's super nice. So I found that the original, uh, show podcast look, I believe is still available. It's, uh, definitely, I put both links in, um, in mumble here. Uh, different, I'm show.org. And then the first link I put in before that, I think was a link to most of what's available to download still. Uh, honky McGoo, that was the politis. Anyway, that I ever heard. And it was a slam dunk and you missed it. Which was what you call alieu. Yep. And I'm sorry, everyone, even Gorkon who is nodding and laughing. Oh, we can't keep a good nose, but I'm talking about. Burble. Oh, what up? Hi, man. Hey, what's up? Burble. I know we've spoken before, but I'm going to have to hear your voice for a while to even recognize you. It's been so long. How you been? Yeah. I have been good. Oh, oh, you're coming into sharp focus, Burble. Oh, you are my favorite Linux brother. Are you not? That was too quiet. Am you? I think you, dude. I remember your HR. But they're coming into focus. You have done HPR episodes. Haven't you? Way back in the day. I asked that question in this room earlier. They were seven people in the room. And everybody said, no, they'd never done one. And then proceeded to talk about the awesome stuff that should be HPR episodes. Wow. You know, we may not have spoken in person. I just might be remembering your episodes that fondly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we've spoken. Well, I'm thrilled. I'm going to go kiss my wife. It's New Year's. Good thinking. Happy New Year to your wife and you. And a family. Hey, you should have been on earlier, Joel. Oh, I have a show where the kid was on. One of the kids was on. Yeah. They always make an appearance every once in a while until so that's cool. But you get to hear the eldest one on every week until. Yeah. Because she's short. Because she's short. She's tall. No, no. We're talking about Kai. But you were talking, you're talking about cars. My dad bought a 2008, 2009. I don't know what you're for sure. But it's not the kind of cars we were talking about. No. There he is. He doesn't have one. He doesn't have one. He's so funny. Oh, two points. There you go. Let me defense. Slay and don't have one. He doesn't have one. He doesn't have one. He doesn't have one. Well, he does stuffMRucker and it's gone. Watch well. Up there. our redutwels one. Yeah. What's up. What is even doing a swinging around? Tower. Finger. So he does have a core bear to sell and that's he he's awesome. Have you been in it? Well, no, because it hasn't been able to run since he bought it. He actually should have stopped you. You got it. You're going to go. Oh no, this thing's dangerous at any speed. It's in pieces though. That's like thing you don't look at the strippers because you can't go home with them. Yeah, it's still shouldn't stop you. You can't bring it on chair if you have to. It's in the middle of the pieces. Or listen to cake of bucket seats on from cake. He's perfect in that scenario. Right. He's had buckets, but yeah. Never there is the reality though. Right. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. But he bought it and heading on. He was going to rebuild it. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is how I drove sound chaser off. So you guys have to cut me off. No, I mean it. I mean it, please. I'm not trying to be in court kind of sound chaser used to say actually in three or five percent. And I did let's bring to actually and it drove them away and it never hurt someone again. I don't want to do it. No one's trying to do here. What's the way I was trying to do it sound chaser? I got it. It's all right. There you go. Anyway. So he bought this fully intending on and he was going to redo it all. And make it actually look nice and drive nice. He actually managed to drive at home. I don't know because after he started taking stuff apart. He realized that the floor plan is complete. The floor plan is completely rested out. Oh, yeah. It's a course. Yeah. So. I was going to say the core of everything really. It's GM in the 60s. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever while driving one of your cool cars? Have you ever made your passenger scream on purpose? And then they were like. Not only have I done that. I've also done that to car salesmen on a test drive. Oh, yeah. Okay. Pretty good. Not this is a road by me that I've learned how to do that. And no matter how hard and the criminal. I can make them scream in my fast. It's one particular turn that's terrifying. Yep. And we can save the nukus you're going to it on the brakes. So you just have hard to write when they're they're most scared. You know, they bounce off the dashboard. Hey, Jackie. I was going to see if you want it on for a few minutes. Yeah. You know, when you know the road, you can play these small cars and just push people over the edge. It's great. There we go. Yeah. Say again. In Iowa. And we had these this double set of 15 mile per hour curves between Ballard and West Bend. Did they and did they cross a railroad track? We had one like that. No, Ohio that shot across a railroad track. No, those parts are going to ones didn't. It was because there was absolutely nothing out there. But some chicane shape. Yeah, essentially just an S. But yeah, it was supposed to be 15 miles per hour the one way and 15 miles per hour the other way. But we always took them at 80 because we knew the road so well. And I knew my car. And, you know, back in sliding the whole way. But yeah. I was not good at sliding cars. I really controlled them all that well as a teenager. But there was a 35 mile an hour zone growing up where at 70 plus it was a jump in the better. Faster you're going the better jump was. But I've gone back there and looking at it from a logical standpoint. The breaking zone if you land perfectly is so short. It's too lucky to be alive. And so is anyone who was ever in a car with you and I did that. Yeah. Well, we also did other crazy things like, you know, those ridges going up to our. Well, do those ridges on the your way up to a sudden stop sign. I. Oh, it's got to cross the road. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And they want different students. Yeah. And I once decided I wanted to know what they sounded at while doing 100. So yeah. They sound the same. The pitch is just slightly different. Yeah. But I wanted to know. Well, there's that one road in Japan where it plays a song. Yeah. It's completely out of key because they like use the different tape measure when they're laying it out or something. Still. That would be cool. You're actually saying anything. Who? Joe? B? Yes. As far as I know, I'm having conversations with people. Am I a little pity again? It happens. No, I hear you. Wait. No. None of us are hearing Joe. Am I not going fast enough? Is that the problem? I got to bring it up to 100 again. If only Joe would speak. It'd be great. Right? Draw. But. You know, I didn't set out to screw with Joe, but opportunity just presents itself. But sometimes sometimes you just got to work. Yeah. Well, I'm going to be waiting till next year for a little minute to come back. Oh, did you walk high on the call? Well, it was so delightful when she was out here. I mean, are Tala. I think it was Tala. Yeah, Tala was on the call earlier. And Kai was on last year. Kai's been hiding from me today, though. Is Joe Joe home? Huh? Is Joe Joe around? Joe Joe went to bed. Wow. With some of us probably should do soon. No. What's the fun to make? Yeah. It's been great chatting with you, but I'm fighting off a cold. So I'm going to pack it in. Good talking with you all. Bye, Mark. Good night, Mark. It was great seeing you again. I've been here, Mark. Yep. Have a good one. I've been here. And I was just typing good night. So I was going to slip out quietly. Good night, all. Good night. Good to see you. Great to see you guys. So I've seen before. Great to meet you, new guys and ladies who were on. It was just been awesome talking to everybody. Cool. Like old school phone freaking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think taller. Okay. So. Hey. Sure. Two of us. Yeah. She's pretty bright. But I tried to convince her to like get on here on her phone. And she didn't want to. She was too busy reading fan fiction of some flavor. Is that a new box or something? The other one. Yeah. No. This is a new one. The old one was a larger and like black all the way around. But this one just a little bit smaller. Just got it just got it done printing today and got it screwed together while on here. Oh. Show it. Nice. And put shorter cables in here. Don't even speak cables. Am I still printing? Yes. Yes. I am. I actually right now. I was working with my printer earlier. And I had some radiation issues. So I took a part of the bed down. I still need I have the fan all the replacement fans. I need to replace all the fans in the controller. I just have gone around to it. Because once in there, while noisy are still working. So I'm going to probably do that. Oh, we got one of them banker holiday things coming up. Because I get some of those off because I work with a higher ed. So there's quite a few days I'll get off. Yeah. I think that's the one next one on my planet day. That day doing that since the wife won't get off work. So what do you have? I currently have a very modified CR10 mini. It doesn't have the original board in it. I replace it with an SKR of some sort. So it has a silent driver's on it. It's got a double the metal extruder fee. There has the wheels on both sides of the filament. Not direct drive. I don't know if I'm going to go direct drive on this one. I'm kind of overdue for get. I'd like to get another printer. But it might happen later this year. But actually just ordered another drone. This afternoon. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I ordered the DJI Mavic Mini 3 Mini 3. And the complete kit with the case and extra batteries and all that stuff. So that's my kind of touch a little bit on both my hobbies that in a photography. I've got to currently have a Sony. It does work with dark table. But because I just do so much of it. And it's worth it. I use use of further things. I do subscribe to Creative Cloud unfortunately. But just have really found a good workflow for video editing. That although I haven't made a video in over a year now. So let's count little ones I make on my phone. Now what type of things are you putting in for someone? It's a good question. I've just tried right now. It's just been give me fits right now. So I've been trying to make it work reliable here again. So I might just have to pull out the filament. I ordered some glow nerd arc filament. That was trying to use to make a Christmas ornaments. I used to make one a year for like four or five years in a row. I did it. And I just didn't get it working a lot of this time in time for the holiday. So that's why I started using glow nerd arc filament. I feel like filament is very harsh. It can be, yeah. And I don't honestly care about where in my, I have the standard brass nozzle. I don't care about where in and out because it's cheap. Yeah, no big deal. So, but what I found, like since the pandemic and the stupid amounts of printing people were doing to make protective gear for doctors in the whatnot. A lot of the filament I've gotten after 2020 has not been great. Well, what type of glow in the dark filament did you get? Ideally. Yes, PLA. It's PLA. And I got like a cheap pack, which was, which is part of the problem right now. I probably should try and put myself a tech back on. See if it works any better. I've actually just got another hot end. I think yesterday in the mail from me. I'm just on over here. So hi. Oh cool. Oh. So I probably do that maybe, but I want to spend some time dialing in the, uh, uh, the leveling on it. Uh, and try and try another print. Um, I did print, um, I found a thing of course. Basically there's these two clip-like things. Very, very short print. Maybe 20 minutes for one pair. And, uh, you take your cable. It has like a spot for you to wrap the cable. Then an end where you can take the end of the cable and stick it in that and kind of keep it kind of... Yeah, I do a lot of cable management actually. I had printed a lot of those, uh, there's, there's one that's like a print and placing where you can bend it, uh, or comes off the print. And basically it, it snaps out really nice. I got them hot glued under a couple of my desks and got the cables tied up. So I don't kick them. So we're in, we're in. Oh, I think you make unique cable management. Yeah. Well, so one thing that I get is, um, at work they had, um, put in a new security camera system. So, well, they put into new security cameras. So they were, um, they're running cat six to the place. But they had like six rolls of cat six that they were, uh, just been throw out. They were like three quarters of a week done. So I got, I got like this. And then I can, so my plan and I got a while ago, I went to learn how to make my own cable and stuff. So I got like it. Yeah. So I got the wires and stuff and got a couple of ends. So I just got a, uh, kind of practice. How to put my, uh, the ends and write. See that. As I say, see that, it reminds me of when we built our house. Um, since we were building it from the get go, I talked to the electrician and said, hey, can you, because the electrician is the one who puts the phone cable and all that in the house. And the end of the coax. Um, so I said, hey, can I, uh, get some, uh, ether at brand and I did. Um, it's like an extra 500 that we had to, I just pay for separately because they have to do it. No, no, no, just get everything to pass inspection and all that stuff. So, um, they was not like, no builder will let you run your own cable anymore when you're building a new build. So, um, 500 was worth it for me. I got four cables, uh, ran from where I'm sitting now in my office, uh, to the living room and to all three bedrooms. But then I found out like two weeks before closing that instead of having, uh, coaxial cable, so it had a regular cable modem, um, this entire neighborhood was wired for fiber. All right. That's all we had. And they had to put the, the end, the end, end point in the garage, which I'm like, whatcha'm like? Let's see. Let's see. I do. I check. Hi. So anyway, um, uh, and I said it again, I'm sorry. Um, but I, um, for a while, I just stuck the main end of my router in the garage right next to the, where the fiber was coming in. Um, but then, uh, I figured, wait a minute, I've got all the coaxes running in the wall and had coax ran to my office too, which I'll never use because I don't, I'm not a cable TV person. I'm a streamer right now. I have voobo TV for my live TV, um, which is usually sports. Um, so I went to Best Buy and I found they had a coax to gigabit ethernet adapter and I put one in my garage, figured out which in, uh, of cable that was, in my garage along to the one in the office, and then just hooked that up there, then I was able to move my main router, uh, back into my office. The only thing it's downstairs is the coax to ethernet adapter and, uh, the fiber point itself. So it made my garage look so much better too, because I had a power strip hanging on the wall for, for all that when they came and installed the stuff back, uh, July 2021. So, finally I could get to use it all, and I have, um, ASUS mesh routers that, that I think it was run, a lot of version of DDWRT, I think, from the factory. So, um, but the mesh routing works really well. So I have one in my office and one in the living room with one of my wife's office. So, it just flexing. I wouldn't let just be the, uh, the fiber to a modem and then the modem to the rest of the house. Well, the fiber comes, it's fiber right into my house. So there's a piece of fiber that goes out to the crew in my house that runs into my house, and then it plugs into the unit that's downstairs that has ethernet coming off of it. So there's no cable modem involved. Right. So there's a fiber modem. Basically this. So, yeah. The basis of you to attach your router to the end of that, and then. Yep, but it's supposed to have, I'm supposed to get a gig a bit, but I'm, the closest I've gotten is right around 700, which, that's fine. I mean, I'm not, uh, I know it's never going to get exactly what they said. I should get, you know, because it's just way modern ISP's are. So, and it's more than for sufficient, me will have multiple people streaming. Uh, I'm on a zoom call, and then we'll just promote desktop, and then in a multiple, uh, SSH sessions, all day, no problems. Anyway, better than when I had in 2020, in the early 2021, which was AT&T DSL 50 megamits, which is horrible. And then there were six months living, or not six months, 60 days living in a hotel, why I waited them for them to finish my house, because the last free steps I had had. No, it was like, this was like six months. No, it seems like six months. Oh, and you talked about it so much as same like six months. Uh-huh. Yeah, but how often I talk to people on here? Does that mean that I act with all your house stuff again? When did this turn into, uh, to the actual cell? No. No. This is technically oriented. I mean, come on. I didn't have to run all my life, so. How about this dual CPAP? How does your CPAP machine run in? It's fine. I have every program to get. I don't need to. It's every program. Mine a couple of times. Yeah. I've got, I have a, uh, uh, a point with my EMT, because apparently I'm still snoring through my CPAP machine. So do you have the automatic one, or did they like, Yeah. Yeah. So it's supposed to figure it out for you, but it's not. I guess. So I don't have to work on my car. Are you surviving on, um, nasal spray yet? Uh, I use it every day. I don't use it a lot, but I basically, uh, take a shower first thing in the morning. Use my nasal spray and then use it. Using it directly before bed. I do sometimes. Along with, uh, taking 800 milligrams of ibuprofen to reduce swelling. If you're having problems. I don't have any problems sleeping. I can, well, I don't usually, that's a problem. That's okay. Yeah. That's a problem with my wife more than just for me. That made me, I sleep like a baby everywhere. Yeah. It's not necessarily a great sleep. I wake up some days where, you know, I run through it. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Is that me as some sort of instance, a matter of, he probably will have me had to go to another study, which, that's the most ironic thing in the world. They have a good sleep study, but I don't know. One person that sleeps well on a sleep study. Everyone's a big problem. I probably can't. Yeah. Well, I can't, too. I have practice. Yeah. Again, I can sleep pretty pretty well anywhere. But for me, I never had to go to a place to do a sleep study. They, uh, suddenly the equipment and I put it on, before I was sleeping. And then I did that. Yeah. Oh, no, no. I always had to go in. You always had to go in. You always had to go in to the sleep center. And then they took me up to a 50,000 diodes and they, uh, get comfortable and, uh, going to sleep. Yeah. Right. And you have a Paul Soximeter on your finger, because they want to measure your blood oxygen in the home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I take, um, usually they'll give me something, or I just take my dose of tracidone, because I do have tracidone for sleep. Um, Who's on the opium and two melatonin? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I can't go over in the morning, but they, they always want you to come in at like nine o'clock or 10 o'clock. I'm like, I don't remember the last time, because I'm on the bed at nine or 10 o'clock. Usually it's one or two, uh, follow. And then getting up to a 530 again. By the time they ever do one or two, I've missed night. Yeah. And choose your one. I don't mean, I mean, we're going to work from home and I don't start till 8 a.m. I will, some days I'll get up at like 730, so I have enough time to grab like a 530. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to drive it. I'm not talking on days that I don't drive in. I wake up at 530. Okay. But it's, it's hard. Well, Joel, I remember the fundamental thing that, um, those weights are going to lift themselves. Well, there's that. Yeah. You seem to have forgotten that. Yeah. I'm going to go to the doctor. I want to start. In January with all the other, you know, New Year, New Me people. Yeah. Probably. After I haven't worked as a haircut tomorrow. Yeah. So that's my arctic look meal here. But, uh, just sleep out of the sucks. Let me just, you know, it knows if, if it ends or butts about it. It's like I keep telling the life there is that if I ever get to the point where, um, I can get there's that new implant you can get. Now, um, a little shock service. You're going to learn. Yeah. So it opens up. I'm not going to. Yeah. And basically the way it works is you have an implant. And you charge it with the device that you take with you. So less with you overnight. And you don't have to wear a mask anymore. Yeah. But, you know, most of the time my, my apnea. Yeah. I've gotten used to wearing my machine and all that jazz. But then sometimes if I'm extremely congested, there's a problem or if, um, it was a really bad allergen day. Then there's a problem. And then the other day, oh my god, when the power went out. Oh. In the middle of the night while I was sleeping, I woke up. Yeah. Of course you did. Yeah. Yeah. I just have gotten the money just to buy that huge jackery battery. And I could use it nice. Well, I've also seen like a lot smaller to style things that are supposed to be coming out in the future. The things that just go into your nose and do it. It's supposed to do it. And then there's a, there's a travel sea pat machine that res, res med makes. It's supposed to do the exact everything. But use less power. Have a smaller profile. But they want like $1100 for that thing. Of course. Yeah. Well, I just think it, you know, what, that's you just hit a hot topic with me. And what, and when thing you piss me off about, uh, those machines is that they're simple devices. They're not, I mean, they're not, it's a fan. Okay. It's one pump. And it's one tip is a simple thing. Yeah. We have to remember, they're, they're pricing these things with the idea that people don't necessarily think for a large amount of money. Right. So that's kind of that whole, uh, medical, medical, uh, uh, you know, medical money. I guess it would be a problem. Yeah. And that's that whole field of things are charged a certain way because of the idea that, that most of them can be covered by insurance. And that's why you need to have insurance. So then, yeah. It's, what they're talking about. I will. Yeah. I will tell you, one, one, one little thing I found out too, because what will happen is, is they'll send me a mask, like everything, the mask, the head year and everything, like once every six months I think it is, but then they'll send me three, every six months. Right. They said, well, they send me cushions too. All right. So basically, I swapped the cushions out. I'm a fool. I have to have a full face one. Um, yeah. Yeah. So then every three months, they'll just send me the frame and, and, uh, not everything, but the history. Right. I've been heckin' about that. This is a strong, yeah. Well, the thing is, this is a strap's really the only thing it wears out. Uh, I mean, that, you know, possibly rolling over on top of your frame. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. That wears out too. But the frame never wears out. It makes you no sense to send me the frame. Send me the head. Two wears out. Yeah. Well, yeah. That does wear out. That comes in my six months. Well, actually, that comes every three months. So, but filters. The filters. Yeah. That one small portion that you're talking about on the, uh, the new res meds. That doesn't wear out. Right. Usually. And that's something catastrophic happened. My intent, my mask is Fisher Pay Cal. It's a simple medium. But it's with mine. I know with mine starting to wear out, because it starts making it whistling noise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the worst is when it gets, like, right by here by the eye, and you just feel that, like, gap of it. Yeah. Who's written your eye? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, can I recede it for tonight? Can I recede it for tonight? Right. Let me fix it tomorrow. Yeah. But the head gear will stretch out. And that's the thing it wears out quicker on me. Then the rest of the stuff. Yeah. So, I can go by the head gear for, like, $17 on the Amazon. Oh, you're lucky. But it's starting. Really. Wow. I can try a generic one. The specific one for my headset is 30. Yeah. I could try a generic one and see how that would work. It might work. But I think it's not like it's a difficult tool to make. Two products that are in your footprint. A little depending on what this is near print or a elastic band of some sort, you know, they'll make that crap. There you go. My biggest thing recently was, so I got, I was getting my supply stuff from, uh, what a local, you know, medical supply companies. And they're just, basically, they're supposed to have some general basic, medical knowledge as to what there's, what's going on with things. So I would edit the same time that the machine I had, uh, the film's first products. The machine I was given from them was on recall. And the only thing that they kept saying over and over and over again, was this was a manufacturer recall. We have nothing to do with this. Okay. Fine. But I'm going to be down. I'm down this machine that you prescribed to me, or you gave to me what you want me to do. And there's like, if this manufacturer recall, there's nothing that we can do by it. Call it manufacturer, get your name on the list. No. This is the only I heard from them. And yet they constantly, they will, I've got the name on it. Now, I can look at the manual that they use it. If they will constantly, and they, I don't have, I don't have like, uh, uh, you know, they're not sending me stuff monthly. So I'm basically ordering my own stuff as I needed. So I, I'm basically, they, they will start calling me and they'll call me one day, then they'll call me the next day, then they'll call me the next day. And then I'll talk to them and be like, look, I don't want anything right now. Stop. Right. And they'll stop. For like a week or so, they'll call me. They always mean when they switch DME and providers on me. Yeah. I was at one company. And then, and this all happened right at 10, we moved in the house. You know, what? So one company calls me, it says, hey, you want to ship supplies? And I, apparently, wasn't listening to the message. Hey, and I said, sure. And then the other company just sends me supplies automatically. So I got, and like, a whole year's worth of supplies for one. And I'm like, so then, I finally got the other company to stop freaking call me, because I'm like, I don't use you anymore. But, but it's talk, you brought the interesting, you had the rest products on the Phillips one, right? Yeah. Um, my wife did two, and she got her replacement. So, the problem is, is that it took time to get the replacement. Right. What I did was, well, I had my wife's help, because she found it. Um, was, we just kept our eye on Facebook marketplace, and eventually there was someone that hated their CPAT machine, and died of a freaking heart attack, and their spouse, told their CPAT machine, and it was the exact same model as mine, never freaking used, and cost me 150 bucks. Yeah. For, for a fully working brand new, matches my model exactly. I know how to reprogram it, CPAT machine. Right. And now I have a backup. One goes down, and I bring up the other. Yep. Well, that's why I never, I never will throw out my old machine, especially since my old machine is exactly the same as my new machine. And that works. And that works. But they still work. Right. The only thing I have to do, to reprogram is swap the memory card out, and I think it picks it up off the memory card. But, or I can just bring it in double check with my, my sleep doctor, if they're in, well, they're only in my city, like maybe two, three days a week. So I just had to call them, find out when I can bring it in, if I have to have a floppy cloud. Right. I've got to try and not bring it in. Yeah. I've got to try and not bring it in. Yeah. I've got to try and not bring it in. Yeah. Well, that sucks. But, hey, we ended up doing with my wife, because, you know, the whole reason for the recall was, uh, uh, cancer. Uh, so she didn't want to use her anymore, and I'm like, well, you got to use one. So I said, why don't we take my, my old one over to the doctor. So you think and put your script on it? And that's what they did. So, um, until the replacement team. But the upside is that she would normally got her replacement, um, probably this year. Uh, but now she doesn't have to. So, I should be. I should be do. Yeah. But every five years, it depends on your insurance. And some insurance, well, they will watch it, watch your, your stats and stuff from it. Like a hop, and they make sure that you use it. My insurance doesn't give her access. Well, as long as they do that, they have it, uh, like the first 90 days, or something like that, but I have it to make sure that you're using it. What the idea is, my dad refuses to use his, like, I just can't, I can't do it. I can't sleep with it all day. Okay. Well, just practice. Like, I thought my mom did get my dad to go, go get an exam, go get a sleep test, and all that, and they did figure out he doesn't have it. Which I thought he would, because he smoked from, it is timely, was 14 till about 2003. So, Yeah, but I'm not sure that that really has an impact, uh, uh, on half. Yeah. It can. thickness of your neck has an impact on. Right. But when I've actually witnessed my dad stopping, you know, like he falsely did a planer, and I heard him stop breathing, unlike I was concerned. So, here I'm gasping for air and stuff. He doesn't, doesn't wake him up, but you know, so, but he did get tested and he's fine. Uh, Which means he has few enough, our, uh, instances of stopping breathing. It doesn't count exactly. Correct. Correct. That's kind of scary. Think about it, isn't it? Yeah. Well, I figured out too. I probably had it. I would say probably since I was 18 or so. I mean, because, you know, Yeah. I mean, that one of the reasons I probably over eight was because of that. There was a time in my early 20s where I hadn't been diagnosed yet. Um, right after I got out of the military. So I assume that this was also an issue while I was in the military. Or I was afraid to sleep, because I was having, um, horrible nightmares. Yeah. Like I was choking. And, you know, everybody assumed that it was, uh, PTSD. Okay. Grand fine. Whatever. It could have been. But it turns out what it really was. Was, I was choking when I was sleeping. Right. Because I had apnea. And I was snoring so loud that my wife tried to kill me once or twice. Well, I was sleeping. And, um, I wouldn't got tested. And got to see Pat machine. Oh, I get to live. All right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But that recall too was, um, Well, there's two big things that piss me off. One was the fact that I, um, because I had to sit there in the, uh, uh, the company that gave me the, uh, the CPAP machine that had the, uh, uh, that was defective or whatever. Didn't want to do anything. And I didn't have another machine. I wanted to spending about a year sleeping on the couch because got to sleep in an elevated position to keep from dying. It's that and the fact of if I didn't my wife would it. And, you know, it's, You're the kid. And then she's the, first sleeping on the couch. She and finds up hitting like issues with, like her back, and her side and stuff. And I, I can see when the couch can be fine. It's just, I don't, I want to see for my bed. You know, Right. That's, That's my bed. I want to sleep in my bed. I want to sleep in my bed. I want to sleep in my bed. I want to sleep in my bedroom. I want to sleep in my bed with my wife, which would be nice, you know, You know, that's one of us to be on the couch because there's some issue like that. The second thing is if you looked at the, what it said with the recall for the, the CPAP and the machine number one, the issue with the CPAP and machine was if you would use a certain type of cleaning material on it, that it would, it broke up some of the, the noise canceling stuff on inside of it at the phone. And if the phone got into you, then that could call us problems. But one of the things that you can, that they recommended, if you absolutely still had to use the machine was there was a filter, you can buy that would go in between like the, the, the, the, the, the hose that was supposed to filter out if there was actually in any of the particulates. Nobody wanted to share that information, besides that or you're like, hey, you're having a problem with this by this. And then after a while, after a month of sitting at the couch, I figured this out. And I went on Amazon. I could buy a pack of 12 and for like $15 less. Yeah. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I've been sitting on the couch when this has been a viable option. And the people who were supposed to be selling me and taking care of my, you know, they don't care about your image. Just in like, maybe thanks for me, Cole. Yeah, I feel real good about our medical people, right? Well, it's fucking smack about this. Turn it into Joel's sheep app on podcast. And then I'd like to laugh about it. I'm like, and that's how we understand. It's important. It's an important topic. Yeah. Sleeping important. Yeah. Because like I said, it's because I still snore with the mask on. I've like, I've been on vacation this week with the holiday and stuff. And so all of a sleep out. I don't believe you see from the couch, but I would much rather be sitting on my bed. Yeah. And that's just in the fact that the medical supply companies are basically, there's supposed to have so many honest staff who are supposed to have some medical knowledge to help you out with the situations. They basically don't give a shit at all. And they're just there to push their product as much as possible. Yeah. I very frustrating. I got so used to sleeping with my CPAP machine for a long time that if I didn't have it, I couldn't sleep. I did re-teach myself on like sleeping a chair, taking nap in a chair and things like that. But if I, if I go lay down and I don't have my CPAP machine, I'm not going to be able to sleep. I can tell what I don't. You know, if I accidentally fall asleep or something, what I do finally wake up, I have a splitting headache. And you know, the only thing you know, I can do is, is feed caffeine. I feel like crap. So I mean, it's just main lag and definitely tell it. You know, mean lag caffeine, takes them, etc. in my green and then move on with life. Because it's like, said, when my green has caffeine, caffeine. Exactly. I do something on some nights where I like push the tongue, my tongue into like the roof of my mouth or something where I can, I can feel it in the roof of my mouth the next morning, the subbeer and stuff like that. I should be putting water. Yeah. I'll get that swelling and that pain right here or in the roof in the back. Yep. And it makes me a very unhappy person that next thing. Absolutely. And I could put the water in with the full of moisture in with it, but the foam is right. I got it at some point. I got to sit down and actually play with it to get set right where it doesn't feel like hot breath on my face. The hot breath of my face is absolutely miserable and I'm not doing that. And so my choices are either hot breath on my hot moist breath of my face or drying my mouth out where, you know, I wake up first in the morning. I'm going to drink a couple of water just to feel that. If you fill that up and then set such a heat in like a one at the lowest setting, then you'll get the, you'll at least get some moisture and you'll get the least of the bad side effects that comes with running hot water through one of those things. All right, which includes mold. Yeah. Yep. One of my things in my insurance changed and they used to give me the heated hose, but they just give me the regular hose now. Fortunately, I don't have the hose. Yes, there's the, the pet, it's going to depend on your on your machine. But mine has a, if you look on it, there's like a pork worth like two wires right below the hole. And that's for the heated hose. And basically, it heats the hose to void rain out. So what what happened is is them as a moisture is going up to hose, the hose will get, you know, cold because room temperature, right? Right. And then the hose, okay, I see what you're doing. Yep. So the heated hose would prevent that. And I also think it has a better connection to the machine as well myself, but that's just me. Um, but um, they won't pay for it anymore. So it's, I, I have to look and see how much it costs for one of those. But I have one thing, I will, I won't, will in the summer because it's generally more humid here anyway. I usually don't run water in my machine, but I actually need to start running it right now because it is the winter and the heat is on and drying out the air in my house. Right. The other side of my body is my allergies are bad because it helps keep things going down in the nasal passages. Right. And then I have the sneezes in a morning when I wake up, uh, in part of my nose. When you, when you have a, uh, a bit of, um, gas, and it just builds up in the chest, but because the pressure difference with the, the C-pat machine, once you take that off and it just like all comes out and you're just sitting there. Yes. That happened when I, I lost, we, uh, a bunch of weight once in, uh, that happened to me. I actually had to have him turn the pressure down. But try having apnea, then you'll know what nightmares are. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. Okay. Go. What? Do I just fall when you stall it again? Uh-oh. See cut off. Yeah. Well, it's because you can't regulate and sleep at night and you ask to, you know, do things like get up and go to school. What do you do on school, my though? That's true. That's true. But he needs to start getting in the habit and that thing up until 3 a.m., but he was doing on school nights when he actually did have school because he wouldn't sneak off and steal back his electronics from wherever they were. Okay. Yeah. He's put the charging for and the garage. Yeah. It's good. It's a mess. It's a mess, seven. So, micro. Still at night, it's got a bit Thomas got to be charged inside the garage where you are. Yeah. And then you'll sneak out after I go to bed and steal it. Is it comfortable in your garage now, too? Right. Oh, yeah. It's great. It's not freezing. Look, I got short sleeves on. I'm not sitting here sharing or anything. It's like 70 or it's probably like 50 computer. What's the temperature? 58 degrees. 58 computer is what is that? Not an Amazon device. Is it? It is. Yep. Okay. He just did the computer and said they were. But yeah, my change is busy. My bedroom is such a computer down here. It's echo. The living room and the kitchen. It's Alexa and then the upstairs kids bathroom. I have a little like outlet ones that you're sticking up. It's a plug. It's just sticking out. I'm a computer Amazon. It's fun. Right. Using computers, you're actively working hard. Right. Fun. Unless you work with computers. And you're constantly talking about serenamance and echo. Diggy. Well, I was going to use Ziggy because Ziggy is an option now. It wasn't really. Yeah. Ziggy is an option. Which is why I'm, you know, everybody in my house is very, very used to using computer. So it'll take a while to transition. I have one transition right now. And then later on, I will start transitioning more of them until I get to all of them. That would change the voices. Yes. I got, I have used Samuel Jackson and I have also the mail voice that is a default on this one. What I, I think it did the Australian and one British and the other and I did just for fun the Canada one, which really wasn't much up that much of a change. Canada A. Computer, Greek, my home directory. Hasks Samuel. What time it is? Computer. Hasks Samuel. What time it is? Samuel. What time it is? Computer. Have Samuel tell me about them snakes on that plane. Yeah. I remember my, someday I should probably try one of the Minecraft devices just for shits and giggles. I'll drill on first. What do I mean? The problem is the microst systems are sort of expensive. Yeah. The box. Yeah. It's not hard to build your own. I mean, I got a pie already with the screen on it. So I had to do is get a microphone. Yeah, basically. Yeah. I wouldn't take much. It's just installing all this stuff. It's a rather, it's still Raspberry Pi beige. So I see this one. I see this one. It's still open for us too. Yeah, and I want those and same people that have both the echoes and the the Google Home stuff. The two, I like the Google Home stuff a little bit better. I think it's faster for just giving it commands and stuff. I have less lights and stuff on it now because when we built this house, I don't want to make a talk on all about the house, but will we built this house? We're talking about cool stuff, so. Right. I do want to set up home. Smart. Yeah, smart stuff. Yeah, that will be awesome too. Now, the light fixtures they put in, we have these, well, they look like can lights, but they're not really all over the house. My dad used to call them burn lights and he liked in the ceiling he doesn't burn light. But because they put all energy, you know, if efficient, thank you, energy efficient when they build this house, they're all LED fixtures and the lights are built into the fixture, which means when it burns out, they're a place to hold fixture. And there's not much room above it. Otherwise, if there was, I would probably get all the hand fixtures and say, in call-up and electrician and say, put these in and I would put smart bulbs and everything. So they're like, yeah, the smart bulbs. Yeah, that's what I'm like down here. Down here in the basement, I have one of my basement lights and it's one of those things where you screw it in and then you screw the bulb into it. Because my thing is, the bulb is going to burn out labor for that switch will or whatever it is that you're plugging that thing into. It depends, you know, because the most of the smart bulbs are LED, so they last a whole lot longer than the Neal curly cues or the Incadescence. Yeah, they screw now, trust me. And you know what, where the light bulb doesn't burn out, a lot of times the portion that, you know, connects to the Wi-Fi will burn out. Right. Right there. I am aware of this. But like, with my overhead light, the computer turned off stampede. There you go. But that one, the light itself is just a regular old light, low light bulb, an LED bulb. And then it goes into a socket that has all the Wi-Fi stuff built in. That's right. You know, smart. And then that screws into the regular socket. Right. Right. Right. That's what I got down here, too. And the basement is, is, is one of those computer turned on green. Like me, is it's own, it was a smart bulb. Now let's hook up to a smart socket. Right. There you go. Because you're better off, there's, there's less of a chance of that smart socket burning out than the smart bulb burning out. Well, then you also run into this, this situation. And this is why I probably, if I do, do this, get the switches. I'll probably look into seeing if I can't get them to run the, uh, the open firmware. Because the light bulbs and stuff you just have at my old house, um, we're, uh, so then you ask from lightify bulbs, they just shut the system down last year. So they will, they will not work at all. I did pick up a couple of smart bulbs, like the bulbs themselves are, are smart. I did pick up a couple of those the other day. But that was because they were on clearance two for 10. Right. Well, as I say, Walmart had several, um, I try to remember the name, brand, um, but those were Wi-Fi bulbs. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mercury innovations. That's what they were. I think if I remember right. And they were, the ones I had, uh, could change colors too, which was actually kind of nice. Uh, but, um, I don't know on those, see the bad thing with those is, is, is, you're pretty sealed. And there's no chance of opening it up and re-programming the firmware in those. So, you know, um, well, within, keep it functioning. Yeah. I did watch a Tony beam aesthetic good presentation. And they should really record an HPR episode for that, um, on a setting up home assistant and all that stuff. And technically, I probably could do home assistant because the security system and the few, I have one smart switch that controls the lights out front and, uh, both of one on a porch and around my garage, all right. Um, and all of that stuff, and in my lot, the smart lock I have on my front door is Z-wave, uh, so in the thermosad as well. So, um, but all works through my security system. I really have no complaints about my security system, uh, but there is always a chance that they may not support it in the near future. So, um, that's something I'll have to address when that, when that happens. But, you know, for now, I'm fine with it. At least, what, what, where they did put it in my house. If I need to take the panel out, um, it should be easy to take out. I just had to remove the panel itself from the, uh, the mount and then pull the cable from, you know, unplug the power package. They didn't wire directly into the house, which, that's okay. Maybe they just had a power package that they fish the, the cable up through the wall so you can't see it. All right. It's plugged into the, um, outlet right below it. Kind of sucks the way they had to do that. But, you know, that the builder doesn't put that panel in, uh, 80 T does because it, my system's an 80 T system. So, but, uh, I can eventually add, um, I have, like, sensors on my windows, uh, into my bedroom, and in my son's room, my wife has a motion in her office, uh, my office has a have pretty much anything because it got to the point. I figured out, if I wanted to put sensors everywhere, when it's them, when they came to do the alarm system install, it would ram me about two grand. So, do you know, does it replace with, uh, home system? Yes, I'm pretty sure that Zigbee and Z-Wave are pretty much the same thing, I think, um, but I'm pretty sure it will, uh, all you have to have is like a, uh, the USB-C waived on, well, they can plug in your pie or whatever you're using, so I'm pretty sure that will. I would do that just to play around and see when you can, uh, you can control with it. My biggest thing about this system is, um, most of the stuff that I do, I have integrated with, um, you know, the, uh, Amazon and Alexa, uh, right, same area. So, I, uh, which doesn't, doesn't actually work well with, uh, home assistant. So, if home system will work with Alexa, then I would have, like, with Alexa, if you were using, I have TTT. Yeah, I have to do that. I don't want to pay for, uh, if this, then that, I don't, you know, I, I don't have to. This is certainly a slipper. I have TTT, uh, I, I think there is a prister, uh, there is, you can't. So, there, there's a whole one time thing to do. Yeah, I think it's a figure over a certain amount of API calls, I think. No, yeah, I, I was using it so much, um, at one point in time, a long time ago, that I just, bring a paid for it, but that was a long time ago. And, and then I stopped using it, and then I went back to, to using it. And, yeah, it's all still there, paid for it. So, uh, and if, uh, I said, I'll have to look at the, uh, so that, yeah, if, uh, if it's casually into, if this doesn't happen, not like, if any were here, he'd probably be talking about the son-off, but, um, yeah, what I'm interested in is right now is this, um, ESP-8266, yes, um, that is supposed to be able to hook in to home assistant. And I think it actually, the, the API will actually work directly with, um, Alexa. But, uh, yeah, I, I'm, I'm interested in trying that out and seeing what I can make and make work from it. Uh, big, the big thing I miss from, from my old house and the old lightify system was, um, I had about motion detectors. And my son had this annoying skill of not being able to turn the light off in the hall. You know, after, you know, he had been in the hall in hours, but the light's still on. So I put the motion detectors on there. It says, turn on the light when you detect motion, turn it off when there isn't any. And that way that light in the hall stayed off. I know it's a completely minor because that light was also an LED fixture. But, you know, he did the job. So, you know, absolutely. But I kind of want to get a motion sensor in my laundry room, which is right on the other side of the store. Yeah. So, I get a warning before the frickin' door opens because I'm jumpy. His little motion sensor buzzers. Like the hissers, the, the joys of having PTSD and yeah. But, yeah, it's like I was cleaning the laundry room in my son for, I don't know why I had doing that side for something out in the garage. And I'm standing there and I've got the closet door open because I'm putting something away. And all of a sudden, the garage door comes flying open and like, Jesus Christ. I'm like, oh my gosh. But yeah, I can't kind of think about that. But thing is, is that I want to, if I want to put smart switches in, I, the switches themselves aren't pricey and I have put them in before. But if I'm doing that many of them, I'd rather pay someone to do it all so that it's all done in one day. You know, for me, it would take a while. Because I don't have tons of time. Yeah, yeah, I guess I can say I'm lazy and I'm completely fine with that. I guess it depends on how extensive you want to go with all that. Right, you know? Yeah, you know, generally, I don't, you know, do I wish I had them again? In certain places, yes, but I don't really care about it as much as I used to. I do have schedule sets so that the the lights outside come on automatically. It's on sunset and then come go off. It sunrise. And I did the same thing with my Christmas lights outside. But then it's badly like, my sun still will hit the switch to turn the light on. So I filled him. I just put a routine in Google. It says, shit shut the light off every hour. I'm like, it's daylight. Those don't need to be on. I'm like, yeah, I think we had something similar with the Christmas tree. I had the plug in there. So it would turn on at a certain time and then shut off at a certain time. And the biggest thing is, I find with the, I use the plug from lights, which is as basically like, we're for lights that I don't have a light switch for and that you probably have a light switch. So like, there's a light in my bedroom that is way over to the to the side and the light switch just covers one that's over a plug that's over to the other side of the bedroom. So it doesn't really help. So I have a switch hooked up to that tipping with my sun's room. I'm going to switch hooked up to one of his lights in his room. It's just, it really works well for like, before he's activated light switch. Right. Because it's those light, the light that I need is not in a spot without actually has a switch. Like we had the one in the living room, especially because my living room has like two lights, which is one turns the outside light and one doesn't do anything that I can tell. And it doesn't affect any of the switches in my living room. So we've like, put a plug up to it. And so I can actually be full of a little light. That's when I said it on a timer too. So it'll turn off the sun's time to turn off at a certain time. It makes me wonder. Is that near like an attic access? No. Okay. It's probably it's been the front door. I want to see one whether there's something else like outside. Yeah. It covers the outside light. But which one? I'm not even exactly sure. I think that both my car or the outside light. I'm not sure which lazy wiring or there was two things outside at one time or maybe. Yeah. That was mine. My house, you know, it was built in 2021 right in that time frame. My city requires them to put a light socket in the attic and it has to be controllable from a switch. And the whole reason is, so when they come and do the inspection to make sure they put it in a blue enough insulation in the my ceiling. Right. They want to see it. I'm not just filling around for them. There's a gauge that they nailed on one of the pieces of frame up there where you can literally look over and see how many inches of insulation you got. But yeah. It's just, I'm like, well, okay. Well, that's the most useful switch in my house. And then every other room like now, every other house I've ever had, almost every room had at least one switch that was switchable. And that was in every room. In this house? No. The only switch that is like that is in the living room. There is a switch that will control the socket. It's just to the right of where my TV entertainment center area is. So I'll plug in, like I have a little Christmas village. We put in on top of that during Christmas time, then I'll be taking down in the next day or so. And that's what I used to use that switch for. At the very other time, there's nothing plugged into it. It's just, I'm like, every and all the other rooms just have the lights in the ceiling. I don't need lamps anywhere in the house really. But although the one thing I would like to get lamps for is when I want more subdued lighting than the ceiling fixtures will give me. Because they are bright. I have technically in here there's, in my office there's two. There's also three because I can see the top of the stairs. And I got a light at the top of the stairs and then light at the bottom of the stairs. And my I almost always leave it off. But because my son likes to come far around up here, literally, that's still on right now. And I'm pissed off about it. Kids and elect, and kids just have no idea that electric costs money. Of course it would have no idea that anything costs money. So okay, they're aware that it costs money, but they're also aware that it doesn't cost their money. That's right, right. But I used to think, well, if my smart thermostat burnout, whatever place it with in broke, whatever place it with another one, I'm not sure, maybe. Yeah, I have, I have the ECOB setup. Okay. And I enjoy being able to use it because it integrates with the Alexa. All right, we'll be able to number one, like during the summertime, turn on the AC and have it set before I get home to get the house cool either for me when I get home or it's like my mother-in-law was dropping off their kids and hanging out with the kids at the house. It would get her cool for her. Right. So you know what the temperature is. You can check it at any time to see if anybody's messing with it. Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to be able to just, you know, use the Alexa devices to set the temperature. Right. Which is, let me tell you, I have dumb thermostats. And there are reasons because in Texas, if you have a smart thermostat and you're a lecture company knows about it, they will reach into your house and control your temperature for you. But, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah, you had to kind of buy into that. Yeah, that's what they're easy for electricity for. Yeah. Yeah, there was something where you had to, you had to, you had to sign some sort of agreement where you, you basically let them do that. Right. Yeah, I'll tell you that. But anyways, I have, I have dumb thermostats and they're programmable. Right. And I, yeah, it would be much, much easier to go through a much, much smarter interface. Right. Yeah, because I can, me and my wife will have a battle because my office is over the garage. It's always the warmest room in the entire house. So she'll get in her office and it's cold. So she'll go and turn the thermostat up to like 72. Not long. Not later, it's 80 of my office. And I'm like, you know, the garage. Yeah. There's ways around that you could just cover a event, close your van. Well, that's what I do. The one that's right in front of my desk, leasing in the fall and winter is also that then up. It doesn't really help, though, because yeah, the heat rises up. I am the only thing out there and more exposed. Yes, I can see that. What I'm saying is with her office, if she closes off the vent or narrows the vent or allows the space he or she has in her office. And it allows stuff to head your way instead of, you know, stopping off in her office, then you'd be better off and she'd be comfortable. Yeah. I think it's just true because he's, he's the one overheating and she's the one freezing. That's right. I'm over to why if she closes off her vents, this should push the cold air further out, right? Yeah. And I would switch, I would switch with her, because at least her office has a door, because it's the third bedroom. But too much shit. And I wouldn't fit in there. I've got my 3D printers. I got a 40-inch DV. I got an Apple TC and an app Atari 100XL. I've got all sorts of retro stuff around me. It's like, yeah, I would never fit down there. But you'd find the way. Yeah. I probably would, if I really wanted to, but it's not going to happen, because I like my space. I mean, really, in the summer, it's fine up here. You know, I did have a, I did 3D print some, I have a curtain to my office, so I did 3D print some clips that will help me keep those clothes so that, because usually what happens is as a sun sets, because it faces what my window faces, as well. The sun will shine right in my window in the office and usually land on my computer screen. So I try and make it so that none of that comes in. That, I'm usually pretty successful with that. But it's only the end of the day that's bad in the summer up here. So it is, uh, let's see, right? Yeah, it's 2, 4 after 2. I probably should get going and get the bag, because I do have to serve in the morning as the videos switcher. So, and happy new year to all, and we'll see you next year, maybe. Yeah, talk to you on Wednesday, Joel. Yep, we'll see you, Joe. Thanks for having me on, uh, and I hope you have a good one, Hockey. Who's left on? How many? How many? I'm a let or mark? I'm still here. Hey, Robweb, how's it going? It's going! Oh, anything exciting? It's 2023. Is it? It is. Other geezer already killing me? Look, we're going through the bed? Yeah, Joel went to bed. I'm, oh, how you out to how much longer I'm going to stamp for? I'm there with you. My kids are going to be up in three hours. That's what Cartoon Network is for. But then they'll want something. Yeah. Like I said, because of my story, I've decided I'll be the one sleeping on the couch for it. And the fact I'm on vacation, I decided I'll be the one who will be on the couch. So they're going to come down stairs at five. And after about being on stairs for about five minutes or so, it's damn hungry. All right. So I'm hungry. I'm feeling excessively violent this morning. Yeah. You'd be surprised how well that fixes things quickly. Yeah? I'm going to try it. Oh, man. Morten's the answer. You don't like it all. Curly. Like I like it. I didn't think you wanted to play that tonight. Hi, Verbal. Hey. Hey. What time is it? Time is over. Hi, Clara. Hi, Clara. Hello. We're talking about our current hair. I hear natural. I like it, curly. She doesn't like it. Was that emergency? Or it's what time is it where you are? We're on the kitchen. Oh, man. 220 p.m. 120 a.m. here. 220 a.m. here. 12 18 a.m. here. But we're on the kitchen still. Or again, I should say, we've been off a couple of times. Hi. Yeah. So if it's 220 p.m. Does that mean you're all parted out from, you know, the new year already? Yeah, alright. Oh, yeah. We went to bed about two to a.m. Two at three hits. A local time here in Tyler. Her brother's the fireworks. They were like, like the big ones that you can buy. Must have been what 60 of them. Wow. About 10 15 meters in front of us. I was terrifying. I just, uh, I thought a final destination the entire time. Nothing could go wrong. Taking out by the fireworks. Yeah. So since we missed the plan to fly north. To see her family. We were going to have somebody drive her car back. And we were going to. Uh, I think our return trips still. I don't know. Sorry. Um, We were going to fly back together. Uh, because we still have those tickets. Um, but it fell through somebody driving her car back to Bangkok. So she's going to drive. And I'm going to fly. Oh, it's right. If we're in the six hours of trying to be 12. Six hours was 14, uh, that was because of the, uh, the biggest biggest holiday day. Everybody was was traveling. Like the four or five of California. And Google Maps needs some active contributors in Thailand. There's a lot of, they corrected. I don't like a job for emergency. Open street maps. I can't read the street signs. I have no idea. It doesn't matter. Oh. So yesterday marks two weeks without a cigarette for me. Or without nicotine for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm really Jones and right now. I don't know. I didn't want to like, do you go, uh, cold turkey with? Well, they didn't want to. You just want to cut like Mr. Let's go. That shouldn't work. That shouldn't work for me. I tried that several times, even just, you know, keep doing what I was doing, just lowering the amount of nicotine. Right. And then they just didn't work for me. And so one day I just said to hell with it. I'm a non-smoker as of tomorrow. And that's what I've done so far. Now, do you vape the blood you vape without any of the nicotine? I can. I don't have anything set up right this minute. I suppose I have some CBD, but I would have to clean a vaporizer. It might be helpful in the CBD. But I was trying to stay away from the physical habit, too, because it's pretty easy to get drawn back into it. Well, I mean, so when I quit, there wasn't much vaping around, really vaping was just starting to be a popular, or just starting up. So when I quit, it was, it was like a straight cold turkey. But like, I tried one of the, those e-cigarettes or whatever. Those like disposable ones. And that was just like a weird experience where it just like the nicotine or whatever you just kind of numbed my lips. And it, but I did take up. Yeah. Can I maybe? I don't know. It was, I enjoyed still having that feeling of smoking, the motions, but I did not enjoy the, the weird numbing of the nicotine, feeling in just, yeah. I think part of what I missed all together was just the motion and the action of smoking as opposed to just the nicotine itself. That taste. I'm a horrible quitter when it comes to smoking because I missed the whole smell and taste of the cigarette tobacco. I missed my mango kiwi. Plus it is really messed with like my hunger signals. Oh, yeah. I'm way over on my calories, almost every day. I'm up like, you know, like eight pounds since I quit. It's pretty good for two weeks. Yeah. I said, yep, that'll happen. Find some unhealthy food that you hate. I need it when you're hungry. Really healthy food that you hate. I blind my beans. Oh. I'm a beans. I love lime. Oh. I don't think better than lime a beans is at a mommy. I'll agree to mommy is better than lime a beans. I'll agree. I'll agree. I'll agree. Like, I hate harmony. I'll eat lime of beans, but I will not eat harmony. I like food. You like food? I have not tried the rat. It's been offered to me two or three times now. Right? I would eat it. I would eat it. I would eat it. I would eat it. No, but not try to eat it. I would eat it. I would eat it. I would eat it. No, I've eaten cat. I've eaten dog. I've eaten snake. I've eaten alligator. I would eat it. It's a squirrel? No. I don't think it would be a head squirrel, I've had buffalo. Grahamy honey squirrel, fuck. Sick. Of whale. Same hand. Left. And we were head beef alone. So I haven't had a porcupine. I've had a lot of deer. Whole lot of deer. Yeah. Like, I grew up in Iowa and, you know, I've spent a lot of my youth in Iowa. And sometimes the only way you ate was you know, unshot it. shot it. Bear or beaver? No, I don't know if he's being sarcastic about the beaver. Well, listen, all you meant. My brother ain't bear, I've been all over everything else. I don't know how the beaver's. Alligators delicious. Really? Yeah, do recommend. Do you know you got to be confused? No, the other beaver you just said it was terrible a second ago. Or I know I don't know what the hell you're talking about, bro. My brother had to air in Alaska and everything else in Alaska. No, we get it. Punky likes the polar bears. I said I didn't like the squirrel. No. Squall. Squall. Polar bears. They're people that like jumping into frozen ponds, generally male, generally furry. Not to be confused with otters. They're the skinny ones. They look like bears, but they're skimming. All right. Look up polar bear club. You'll figure it out. I know you know. It was probably more investment due to the conversation. Well, these squirrels do is easy to make. You just got to get the ball in the right position and aim your shotgun correctly. Like I said, easy to make. It's not easy to make if you're using a 22. If you're using a shotgun and get it's all pre-shredded and mixed up, they're off of just the pellet guns. That's basically what a 22 is. I need my now. You. You miss you. That every bullet so far. My 22 pellet gun from back in the day was okay, but if I was going to use the 22 pellets, I tended to prefer my slingshot over the pellet gun. Can't decename with it. With enough practice. You imagine hunting bears. Like going out there. Guns. Can you talking about being on a pole? I'd dare be for hunting. Of course. You've been married a long time, too. I'm sorry. That's only a lot of bill pulled in a minute. I've played it down gently. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the bill and you're zipper in the strip. We were talking about slingshot. I think he printed this one. Nice. I want to get the longer three elastic pieces. I get more pole because the draw on this is pretty shit. I don't want it. There's a full on like arm length draw. I can pull it back by my ear. That's what she said. I bet she did. You don't hunt me where you tap it. Yeah. Well, that's true, too. And again, what you can't irresponsibly shoot into water. I mean, that's the whole thing about water. It's going to slow your bullet down quickly. It's not really going to cause a problem, which is why when you go fishing, you don't use a gun. You use dynamite. That's right. I'll fishing in bulk. I got a whole bunch of these. They were low cost. The rubbers. Did you get ricochet off a water? Good question. If the angle is very like acute. If the angle is very acute, then yeah, I suppose you could get a ricochet. I never thought it would make sense. I think you also said extremely shallow, so you'd be ricocheting off the bottom. That would be stupid. Because if it goes, well, it'd have to be like a hard bottom, like hitting a rock or something. Okay, so he is saying the surface of the water and so he is talking about an acute angle. Like I said, that's why you don't use a gun to go fishing. Use dynamite. Yeah, that makes sense. With the acute angle, a BB, the slightly slower speeds. I could see how that would get very well across the water. You got a pretty mouth emergency. Thank you. Oh, you knew it already. Don't pretend like it surprises you. Oh, but I'm going to keep that slingshot till the next time I add out to my dad's house and Florida. You're going to try out there. You know, if we were a place to shoot it here. No. Normally, I would have gone out for Christmas and still be out there now, but that just didn't work out this year. But hopefully with my promotion, it will put me in line for other positions at the company. I can get a management position and that will come with a pay raise. And I can do things like afford to go visiting people. I think you need to get a pay raise and a transfer to somewhere out of Texas. I would like to get somewhere out of Texas. It's just not as simple as that. I. And where do you go? I mean, Southern New Mexico. Somewhere there in the Colorado. Where is it not a stupid? I like to say that the Northeast isn't as stupid. Yeah, but it's the Northeast. I have some issues with cold. What do you want me to say? I can't argue with that. I've expressed my issues with cold. You've seen me when it gets cold in Texas and how much I hate myself. I hate yourself. I just hate the cold. My body hurts because it's cold. So verbal, you should talk more. So I can talk less. Join us on the Jizzi and talk more. I got to get a webcam. You don't do a camera? No matter who's on here with other cameras. I was, you know what? You know what? I'm going to hook up this piece of garbage camera that I got for $10. But I was telling, uh, I think I was telling you about it a few days ago. Hawkey, was I telling you about this, uh, cheaper, uh, the ones you got that I got? I'd love five below. Yeah. It's going to come in as upside down because I don't have a proper way to mount this. But I'm going to switch cameras if it'll let me. Can you see my camera? It looks very dark. This computer turned on Stampede. This is a high quality camera right here. It's horrible. That's it. Arm length. Arm length. It's supposed to be a dash cam. But I do like that you can potentially use it as a webcam and literally $10.00. That's about it. It's going to be, uh, one of my Lord, my Noble 2430. How is, um, the list? Well, you saw my in this looks a lot cleaner. Looks like shit. Oh, right. I'm looking at it. Yeah. I don't know. This is a new camera. And this is as far away as my other camera and it looks like, you know, I've got it shoved up by nose. Now, um, I can, okay, it automatically switched back to my other camera. I didn't do that. Okay, it switched back again. Let's do it because I'm moving around the, the thing got disconnected reconnected. But do you see the difference when it switched? Oh, but I, I think I'm going to a 3D print a different mount for it if I want to use it in here like this just for screwing around. I do like the fact that it, you know, costs $10 and it's a, it's a webcam. But I, I, I got it hold on let me switch back. I got it because I wanted to play with the screen. I want to take it apart and, um, see what I can do with the screen on the back. What do I mean? Yep. If it's usable for another type of project. It's not bad. It's a much just pops off that little mount there and slides back on to it. Like I said, it's made to mount your dash. It's a dash cam, but it's an extremely shitty one. But, um, either if that's a 17 millimeter ball then all I got to do is like hook it up to one of my other adapters and I'm going to go when I think it's smaller than that. But I might need to 3D print another adapter. All right. I would love to stay and talk about the rest of the night into the morning. I got it, but I should really, really, go to sleep. Sleep is healthy for you. It, it probably a good idea. All right. I'm going to check off right now. Well, what, what time is this supposed to end in the morning? So the time that I'm going to be checking them. Well, last time Zona Cross is over. I believe is 7 a.m. But if there are people still in the room that I'll just keep recording going until there is nobody in the room or there's people in the room and nobody's talking for a while and I'll kind of check in to see if anybody, if there's anything going on and they'll just shut it down upwards. All right. Hello, verbal. Hey, hey, hey. Like it's doing me against the wall. I think so. I've just been studying out bomb and stuff. What are we doing? What are you going to be doing? I'm going to be putting a server control panel on a lot of my computers and part of the control panel includes a VR management. Sounds awesome. Well, the nice part about the VR management is it may actually work remotely and the control panel does updates. It does a lot of stuff storage management. I've got all kinds of plugins for it. So, where do you think you have it up and running? Well, I've got it running on my main machine here, but I haven't used it much. It will take me a couple of days to recover from this devil, Paul Knighter and Brennan want to get out. I have a small mini PC server that I'm going to be configuring. So, I will probably do that and then plan as part of that installation. I will include the dashboard. Yeah, I've been watching the eight of fruit site and they, I just not like they don't have any Raspberry Pi's in stock. So, it's like crazy. So, I am they set up some Raspberry Pi's for 24-7 operation, but what's going to replace my desktop or a tower based system is going to be what they call a one-liter PC. It's a, it uses a relatively low power processor. The ones I'm aiming for a 35 watt and is a very miniature I in 12th of size and regular hardcover book. Is it arm-based? The ones that I'm looking at are X86 specifically Intel. That sounds interesting. Well, even getting them through Amazon, you could get them cheaper than you can or as far as the moment. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, I think I recently saw a video that was saying that people, you know, they're still making Raspberry Pi's, but they're mainly supplying it to larger companies that kind of depend on selling Raspberry Pi's to keep the business going rather than selling them to like end users. So, they're trying to take care of those people first, but they're hopefully, you know, they're especially in Europe. There's a large or a substantial industry which uses them as the core of industrial management or monitoring systems. Exactly. The Raspberry Pi Foundation says allegedly they had some 100,000 units for this Christmas. It was supposed to be lit out at least. I don't know if they ever got out as a lit, not getting scalp and things are supposed to be tight through through the first quarter of this year that is late 2023 and second quarter they're supposed to be easing and further normalization through the third quarter in the rest of the year. I can't wait for that. Well, I may have to shuffle, so I have one A gig pie for and I have a two gig pie for and I may be traveling those around because I want to set up a pie as an app cash and as a dearest cash for my home network. And I may have other tasks for perhaps local time service for other similar functions. You know, I have to check and see what's going on with like, like, oh, joy. Maybe they're a little bit easier to get these days. I don't know. I have to check. Well, one system if I were going to look for something else, the orange pie people have with a call of PA 800, which is a keyboard computer in users of RK 3399 or something like that processor, which is a hex core machine. However, the RK unit, I think have four full-size cores and two, which they reserve for lower power idling operations. I don't know how it works, but it's supposed to be they have two more limited function cores and then four full-power cores so that when things are idling, the higher power check section of the processor are puttously. I have to look into that. Well, I'm I'm going to be working on setting up basically retiring a lot of my older desktop machine. Not that there were fire breathing gaming machines, but for any kind of long-term you appear in the boss scenario, they're just two power hungry. Yeah, I could see that. Actually, I'm making try to find a second source eBay or something else for the smaller server. I'm also interested in seeing how the market reacts to the machines that are officially not Windows 11 certified. Yeah, I have no use for Windows machines. But what I'm suspecting is that machines that can run upgraded to Windows 11, like what I've got is allegedly a search generation of this many computer package. The fourth generation is allowed to upgrade to Windows 11 and you'll see those machines are sold in the premium. Yeah, I can see that happening. Yeah. When and these are pre-ferbes off-leafs, but the machines that are just slightly older, which don't have a Microsoft approved upgrade to Windows 11, will gradually become more well-lived, they'll be less favored in the market, which means their price may drop. Yeah, that sounds right about right. But right now, I've got to get this one machine configured. I built it with two SSDs inside one of them half a terabyte, and then another one is going to be a full terabyte. Yeah, I just upgraded a desktop that I had about, I upgraded about maybe a year ago to a SSD and let's do it quite well. Well, I found out a bit late that this has, well first, the boot drive that came with it is a brand X 240GB drive, and it has the capability of taking either SATA or NVMe M2 long-form drive, what they call a 2280 millimeter long and 22 millimeters wide. I could have used the NVMe drive, but for the kind of stuff that I'm going to be doing, I don't need the absolute best in speed. I need an expensive and bulk storage so that I could set up a laboratory network with fun to the hypervisor and not really worry about some being a little swell. Okay, got it, yeah. And also since I don't know Docker or any of the merriot of hot solution, I wanted a lot of room for different experiments and storage for the same. So which VM are you using? I'm using the native QM, QUM, MU, BMU, as the basic hypervisor. Okay. Now, I may be running an emulator to run an emulated dust system because I really, you know, I like the challenge, or working with the minimum tools of dust in the modern age. Oh, like this, yeah. Hey, as long as you don't go back, I'll leave back to a CPM. Oh, I may go back further than that. I'm in Massachusetts, and we were the home of digital equipment corporation. Oh, so you can probably find some of that stuff away and around somewhere or online. So there's a two-legged project because there are two development channels. Of course, something called CMH simulated hardware with a modern processor. I should be able to have an entire army of rather primitive systems. The PGBA, which I've had some personal experience with at a 12-bit work, generally used six-bit characters and 32, 12-bit, 32K, 12-bit memory. Now, did that, did that one have like a big this pack? Well, we did that combinator, like with a PDP 11. So a standard single-platter drive, which was removable like a pizza, carried two-and-a-half megabytes. That's crazy. Well, it also supported deck tape, which was your basic sort of video tape with 250-some-all-educate of memory, 32K, 8-bit, 32K 12-bit words. And it's a very simple machine and accumulator. And it's a very, very primitive machine, but that's what I grew up with. And it was available up to, I don't know, some fairly substantial hard drives, at least for the time. Which would be nothing compared to today's hard drive sizes. Yeah, I also saw a hard drive adapter made to hang off a dual OS 360, you know, OS 360 stuff with all kinds of peripheral. Right, right. And that same generation, they had the straight-eight, which were basically something like your average bar fridge, a tall bar full of circuit boards, about the cards with the street logic on it, and it plugged into a back ring that was wire wrapped. The wire wrapping was a fascinating project where the machine would have one of several heads and under computer control. These many computers were used like you would a microcontroller these days. The ones I took apart to salvage their trend districts were part of the disc controllers of a trend district or a main frame made by digital for a long time. When it's computers based on a six-bit word or a six-bit bite, I think the first of their eight-bit ask-human changes is the feed of the 11. Okay. And the PDP 11 is so popular that there's a Raspberry Pi based panel and emulator kit that you can get for it. The kit emulates a PDP 1170, which was a 16-bit machine with a, I think, 24-bit, 22-bit address space. So they could get about four miles of main memory into the machine, or minus some space that was used for use for peripherals. Okay. An interest in one of digital equipment corporations later computers was called the PDP 50. It was contemporary with the PDP 11, but as it was getting long in the tooth, they didn't want to create new devices for it. So what they did is they hacked a PDP 11 as a storage controller, or as a device controller, hung off of this 18-bit computer, so they could use PDP 11 accessories with this 18-bit relatively low production machine. Okay. Now, if you want to do things with images and other things, they are making a lot of cards for the Raspberry Pi that turns it into a peripheral controller, as well as providing a network stack. And so, you know, you couldn't use anything from a standard Pi to a little Pi, Pico, or whatever, Pi is zero. Yeah. Those were really nice machines. The amigas, they were wonderful. Well, if you hang the Raspberry Pi off of an interface card, you can get your entire Pi, it could be a basically a buffer cache for stuff that the main system is calling for, but in these days, just like back in the day, you can flip a Raspberry Pi into your Omega, probably works similarly for the Atari, or whatever, and have the modern ARM-based system handle all the IO, while the processor is just there being school-in-set data, generally, and anything from terminal concentration on it. That's amazing. Well, it's really amazing. As you can take the Raspberry Pi with appropriate addition, hang it off in serial board on your CPM machine and using a modified case command set, which your terminal program can be programmed in, because it's simply the last key. You can take your old gaming, low-end gaming machine and put it on the internet through Telnet, or FTP, or some other protocols, but it just makes the computer think that it's talking to a dial-up mode and later on, I mean, it's not as telnet is not a secure protocol, but it does bring back memories of clogging into these various things, looking for company, or use that postings, including the brace-year ones converted. Oh, yeah, definitely. Hey, I remember using like the Oda VBSs with dial-up modems and things like that, and then I remember, I can't remember what it was. I don't know if it was fine on that or whatever, but saying messages from, you know, places like Hawaii and, you know, the West Coast and the East Coast, and that was just amazing back then, because, you know, usually when you had dial-up, you were dialing like local places, but then, you know, and I can't remember what the name of it was, but it was just amazing to see like people calling in from like all over the country. Well, a lot of it was your computer would have two or three serial ports, and they'd have their motor, and usually there was some kind of a schedule when, so you could know when the machine was going to be tied up with transferring by, often they would do them and got off of the morning or something. Right, right. But just like UNIX UNIX copy, which is where UNIX UNIX UNIX came from, why don't it, would call, I believe it was a hub of both modified hub and spoke architecture, so that the fight on that would look basically at your verification code and may well have someone waiting for the old chip to shift close out, while the new shift is sitting on his hands. But the whole deal is you would be, you would make these local calls, and then, sometime in the night, your the bulletin boards would call a hub system and pass stuff on, and that system may call another system in the area or regional hub, or what have you until eventually the messages got pushed over the phone, upstream into it off routing hubs, so the messages got spread to all of the bulletin boards for a part of the community. Right, yeah, that was amazing. Well, what was amazing is that they were doing this stuff with relatively unmodified PC, some of them as limited as an Apple II, and all this stuff was real memory, so unlike your PDP11s where your UNIX UNIX copy, and use that team from, these would be relatively unsophisticated, ordinary desktop PCs, or towers, but because of the economics of things, and whatever we're going on in the country, they, these networks, could be dial up over both to the client computer and to whichever administrative hierarchy that networks they belong to, and they were doing this with very limited memory protection none of the modern bells and whistles that you're being with the simplest Linux machine would have, multi tasking, pre-emptive things, timers, all the bells and whistles. Definitely, yeah. So now you got me thinking, trying to remember what was the name of that like, um, multi-tasking software that was out there. I can't remember the name of it. Yes. Exactly. That was it. That was it. Yeah, that's cute. Well, IBM had their own similar version of the name, Escape. Multi-tasking dollars required, which was the basis of Windows 3, 3 required doing some fairly cruel and unusual punishment to a very simple and straightforward program loading system. Yeah. And then back in those days, you had a sidekick, which was like a terminate in the state resident program that, you know, you could just like, you know, pop up like a little note pad and other things, that was that was amazing back then too. And there were a whole bunch of programs like that. Now I, I have to step away for a minute and I'll be right back. Hey, no problem. You have been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio.org. Today's show was contributed by a HPR in this night like yourself. If you ever thought of recording podcast, you click on our Contributely to find out how easy it means. Hosting Prage VR has been kindly provided by an onsthost.com, the internet archive and our synced.net. 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