[Hpr] owning binrev

dosman dosman at packetsniffers.org
Fri May 6 10:40:58 PDT 2011

I second what slick0 said.

And if you want more people to know it's a BinRev project then put a  
banner on the front page that says "A BinRev Project". As far as the  
content, if people recording shows want to bump it I think that's  
their call, it's never been an issue before. Make some content or  
commercials available.


On May 6, 2011, at 10:32 AM, slick0 wrote:

> I imagine part of the confusion was how HPR came about during the  
> ending (merging) of both binrev radio and TWATech radio.  Both had  
> their roots, but having them merge as something new could be seen as  
> somewhat of a rejuvenation effort to keep things going full force  
> without the starting points.
> I myself have never thought of HPR as not being a part of binrev,  
> the idea is just alien to me. That said, I can understand how it  
> could be lost to the listeners if it's never mentioned. Certainly,  
> many of the friendships I've made in the hacker community are thanks  
> in part to binrev. If not for binrev radio and 2600 as insparation,  
> and binrev's ddp hack radio as a platform, basenet would likely have  
> never bothered starting, and I similarly would have never bothered  
> with any conferences, etc.
> If you want me to do any voice overs for HPR with the binrev name,  
> etc, just let me know and I'll get right on it. Let's get this brand  
> pushed!
> -slick0
> On 5/2/2011 8:24 AM, Klaatu wrote:
>> My first attempt at sending this email either failed or got  
>> summarily ignored.  I'm sending again, just in case it was the  
>> former.
>> Ken's recent Interview With Stankdawg drove home the point that a  
>> lot of new listeners of HPR don't actually realize that HPR is and  
>> always has been a BinRev project.  I think this is a bit of a shame  
>> for two reasons:
>> 1. A lot of us as podcasters and hackers were incredibly influenced  
>> by binrev radio.  I myself count Stankdawg as one of my primary  
>> influences and he even gets the very dubious honor of being the  
>> reason I record myself in glorious 8000hz and pimp a proper lo-fi  
>> sound.
>> and..
>> 2. binrev is a strong and important "brand" - it has been around a  
>> long time now; along with 2600, it's done a lot for the "hacker"  
>> image and sense of identity, and it's an important part of HPR as  
>> well as hacker tradition and history.
>> In short, I think we should take ownership of our heritage.
>> It has often puzzled me, actually, as to why HPR was positioned as  
>> a separate entitiy from binrev; I kind of assumed that BinRev  
>> wanted to be a more or less invisible sponsor, and maybe early on  
>> it did help more people find HPR by having it as its own thing.   
>> But I think HPR and BinRev are both being hurt by not claiming  
>> affiliation and capitalizing on the BinRev brand.
>> For instance, I have recently done an outro without the "Sponsored  
>> by Caro dot net" part; it would be trivial to add something like  
>> "HPR is a part of the Binary Revolution...blah blah blah" -- or  
>> whatever.  I don't know if it would also be significant to add some  
>> subtext to the Hacker Public Radio logo or title graphic that  
>> states it is a "A Binary Revolution Project" or something like  
>> that.  I don't know, I don't want to go overboard but I do think a  
>> little more acknowledgement could be good.
>> Anyone else thinking in this direction or am I just spouting off  
>> rhetoric from marketing class?
>> -- klaatu
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