[Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 49, Issue 15

Fifty OneFifty fiftyonefifty at linuxbasement.com
Mon Oct 15 11:22:16 PDT 2012


Since I am partially responsible for starting the debate on the list on how
to revise scheduling, I didn't want to weigh in until I thought I could
propose a simple solution.  There has been a lot of great thought put into
what's been proposed but some of it has seemed unnecessarily convoluted to
me.

What I would put forward instead is a goal (not a hard and fast rule, to
give us flexibility) that in a given four week period, at least ten shows
should be draw from the regular queue.  The window wouldn't have to be
sliding, that is to say if the last two weeks in July are dominated by
interviews and talks from SELF, and the first two weeks of August is all
stuff from Oggcamp,that would be OK as long as the first two weeks of July
and the last two of August had a "normal" amount of shows from the
"regular" feed, and I'm not arguing to bump LItS or TGTM to make it
happen.  (For a while, it seemed we were lucky if shows in the regular feed
moved up once a week.)  Ten shows doesn't even have to be a hard and fast
rule, especially if we have syndicated content waiting and the contributor
queue is getting short.  I think this will also promote variety in the feed.

Second, on Atom format for the show notes. I think asking for manual HTML
encoding in the show notes (as opposed to "save as html") may discourage
some contributors with only basic web development skills  (is there an
WYSIWYG edit that saves in that format?) or who might skip notes altogether
when they are short on time.  I think this is something I could learn, if
only someone could record a tutorial :)

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <hpr-request at hackerpublicradio.org> wrote:

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>    3. Re: Please send in more shows (Patrick Dailey)
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> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:11:31 -0500
> From: sigflup synasloble <pantsbutt at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Hpr] images
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> What's the best way to include images in show notes?
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> From: Dave Morriss <dave.morriss at gmail.com>
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> On 14/10/12 00:11, sigflup synasloble wrote:
> > What's the best way to include images in show notes?
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> I used txt2tags (http://txt2tags.org/) at Ken's recommendation. I then
> created images and their thumbnails and included them thus:
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> [[./thumb.NERDTree.png] ./NERDTree.png]
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> Dave
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> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:43:49 -0400
> From: Patrick Dailey <pdailey03 at gmail.com>
> To: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Please send in more shows
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> In addition to what Ken said here, I'll add that collaborative shows are a
> great way to participate. If your sound system is working well enough for
> you to record your voice into Audacity, then it's very likely that Mumble
> will just work for you. The very cool people over at Linux Basix (
> www.linuxbasix.com ) have made their mumble server available to us, and
> even have a dedicated HPR room on there. Look for the section titled
> "Mumble settings" in the lower right hand part of the page for the server
> details.
>
> You could do a show with a friend regardless of where in the world either
> of you are, and there are probably dozens of experienced HPR hosts who
> would be willing to do a collaborative show with a first time host. I know
> I'm always up for doing a show that I don't have to edit. For me podcasting
> is a lot of fun, but it's always more fun when I'm sharing it.
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> > From: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>
> > To: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> > Cc:
> > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:01:02 +0200
> > Subject: [Hpr] Please send in more shows
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Speaking with Pokey, I think the message has been diluted so let me ask
> > again.
> >
> > "PLEASE SEND IN MORE SHOWS"
> >
> > We need you to send in 'regular' priority shows.
> >
> > We need you to send in 'backup' shows that we can put out when we are
> > low. Just add the priority you're happy with in the show notes.
> >
> > Anyone that can't think of a show topic, contact us via the links
> > on the main page and we'll find something for you to talk about.
> >
> > Ken.
> >
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> Thank You,
> Patrick Dailey
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> Not sent from an iPhone, iPad, Blackberry, Android or any other such
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:43:54 +0200
> From: Ken Fallon <ken.fallon at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Hpr] images
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> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:19:04 +0100
> Dave Morriss <dave.morriss at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 14/10/12 00:11, sigflup synasloble wrote:
> > > What's the best way to include images in show notes?
>
> The goal is to have everyone supply the show notes in Atom format.
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> (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/)
> <title>, <summary>, <content>, and <rights> contain human-readable
> text, usually in small quantities. The type attribute determines how
> this information is encoded (default="text")
>
> If type="text", then this element contains plain text with no entity
> escaped html.
>
> <title type="text">AT&T bought by SBC!</title>
> If type="html", then this element contains entity escaped html.
>
> <title type="html">
>   AT&amp;T bought <b>by SBC</b>!
> </title>
> If type="xhtml", then this element contains inline xhtml, wrapped in a
> div element.
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> <title type="xhtml">
>   <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>     AT&T bought <b>by SBC</b>!
>   </div>
> </title>
> -------------------------------
>
> So depending on the one type you pick for the summary element, the
> encoding will change. However it should be a regular html image link.
> http://www.tizag.com/htmlT/images.php
>
> Keep the images in the same directory and don't use any path.
> <img src="big-xyz.jpg" alt="Photo of XYZ" title="XYZ">
>
> Although optional, skipping the "alt" tag is not advised or teams of
> Accessibility ninjas will descend on you. Just saying.
>
> Whither you attach thumbnails or not is up to you. Probably best to
> send in the highest quality original and let downstream systems handle
> the thumbnails.
>
> >
> > I used txt2tags (http://txt2tags.org/) at Ken's recommendation. I then
> > created images and their thumbnails and included them thus:
> >
> > [[./thumb.NERDTree.png] ./NERDTree.png]
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Ahh yes I've been meaning to talk to you about that :)
> txt2tags is fine if you don't know html, but it will add an additional
> processing step and that means a delay in getting it processed. So if
> you know basic (x)html use that. If you're only using one link then use
> TXT and the link tag. Avoid using javascript as that will definitely put
> you in the "this will need to be checked" corner.
>
> Ken.
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