[Hpr] 2013-14 New Years 24-hour show

George sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
Thu Oct 17 09:33:35 PDT 2013


Oh, you meant the server.  I cornfuzzled that with the OpenSpeak 
Project: http://freecode.com/projects/openspeak and 
https://www.ohloh.net/p/openspeak

George

On 2013-10-17 11:22, Kevin Wisher wrote:
> It's part of the Linux Basix/PodNutz network.
> 
> http://linuxbasix.com/ [2] : look on the right-hand side for the
> server details.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM, George <sndchaser at cerebralrift.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> That's excellent news...
>> 
>> Hmm, I'm looking for OpenSpeak, but I don't see it out there
>> anymore.  Looks like the project went away around April of 2009.
>>  Does anyone know if it was forked, or someone else is maintaining
>> it?
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> On 2013-10-17 08:53, Kevin Wisher wrote:
>> My test streaming bot was connected to my Mumble server in a "room"
>> and never timed out for 24 hours. So I'm pretty sure this issue is
>> specific to the openspeak server.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM, George
>> <sndchaser at cerebralrift.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd think there are really two tests that need to happen:
>> 
>> (1) Setup IceCast with IceS and see what it would take to do
>> various types of transcodes.  IE, what if the relay stream is
>> 128/64/48K transcoded to 64/48/32K.  (Can we go lower with the
>> relay stream or the public stream?  Do we want to try Opus?)
>>  Probably want to get an idea of the hardware baselines, and the
>> CPU load, memory usage, and if there's any detectable lag due to
>> the
>> transcoding.
>> 
>> (2) Setup an IceCast server as a relay server, and test to see how
>> many relays can be handled, and if there is any detectable lag
>> between the relay streams.
>> 
>> I'll take one of my servers this weekend and see if I can get
>> IceCast set up and do some testing as well.  Hopefully we can
>> start
>> getting some baselines and decent profiles of what this is going to
>> require.  IMO - assuming that the transcoding isn't horrendous,
>> I'd
>> bet the requirements / overhead aren't all that bad.
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> On 2013-10-16 17:07, cobra2 wrote:
>> 
>> I'll get ices running on my two servers if that's what is required.
>> CPU power shouldn't be an issue. It'll be the same two servers I
>> donated last year.
>> 
>> Dave Lee <dave at thelovebug.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a mumble server that gets used weekly and is really
>> reliable.  It's never been volume or load tested however.
>> 
>> I'd be happy to donate use of that server for the show.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>> Please excuse my brevity and any typos.
>> On 16 Oct 2013 13:45, "Kevin Wisher" <kevin.wisher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The two streaming bots actually provided some redundancy as I
>> believe at one point last year one of the bots quit working. So
>> IMHO
>> we should leave it as is from last year. The biggest issue was the
>> bots timing out and dropping out of the HPR room. I believe this
>> issue will be resolved by using another Mumble server where the
>> owner/admin has full root privileges to the server.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:30 AM, cobra2 <cobra2 at cctracker.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Stock android has no issues with streaming ogg from version 2.3 and
>> up. I would think that it would be safe to drop the mp3 stream.
>> Unless there is just one person who needs the mp3 stream, I motion
>> to drop it in favor of ogg and technical simplicity.
>> 
>> --cobra2
>> 
>> Kevin Wisher <kevin.wisher at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The reason for the 2 streaming bots was one was streaming mp3 and
>> the other was streaming ogg. IIRC, we had multiple icecast servers
>> for each format of stream and that worked just fine. If all
>> involved
>> believe one format of stream is all we need, then I agree with your
>> idea.
>> 
>> Kwisher
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM, George
>> <sndchaser at cerebralrift.org> wrote:
>> 
>> So, I've been thinking about this a bit since we were talking in
>> IRC about the problems from last year with the "bots" connecting to
>> each of the streaming servers.  Since we have some time, and Bert
>> just said he has an IceCast server, I thought I might suggest a
>> different architecture...
>> 
>> Basically, instead of having a "bot" for each of the stream
>> servers, have just one bot feeding one of the IceCast servers, and
>> configured that server as a relay server to the others...  So
>> instead the layout would look something like this:
>> 
>> [Mumble Clients / VoiP] -> [Murmur Server] ->[IceCast Relay
>> Server]-|
>>          (Relays From IceCast Server to Public Streams)    
>>         |
>>  
>> |----------|-----------|----------|-----------------<-------------|
>> [Stream 1] [Stream 2] [Stream 3] [Stream 4]
>>   |            |         |          |
>>   |------------|---------|----------|----<-----[Load Balancer /
>> Front End]
>> 
>> This would simplify things a bit by only needing one bot to be on
>> the Murmur server, which could be set up so more people have access
>> to restart it in case it messes up.  Granted it becomes a single
>> point of failure, but last year the problem was that we had several
>> bots that only certain people had access to.  This way we can have
>> one bot that we can have 5 or 6 people be able to restart.
>> 
>> The IceCast Relay Server would be (at least to my way of thinking)
>> a private server only serving the function of relaying to the other
>> stream servers.
>> 
>> Anyway, just tossing this out there for discussion.
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> On 2013-10-14 18:31, Bert Yerke wrote:
>> 
>> I still have the icecast server configured from last year. I'll
>> have it going
>> for you.
>> 
>> Bert
>> 
>> On Monday, October 14, 2013 05:27:52 PM Kevin Wisher wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> We are roughly around 10 weeks away from the next 24-hour New
>> Year's show.
>> This a call out for all parties who are interested in helping with
>> this
>> year's show. We mainly need to make arrangements for a Mumble
>> server and a
>> few streaming servers. If you have any of these resources available
>> then
>> please send me your name, email address, available resources, and
>> a
>> day/time that is convenient for you to meet on-line on a Mumble
>> server for
>> organizational purposes.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Kwisher on IRC
>> 
>> kevin dot wisher at gmail dot com
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