[Hpr] Should we publish the HPR downloads stats ?

Ken Fallon ken at fallon.ie
Mon Jun 2 07:12:24 PDT 2014

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On 2014-06-02 15:15, David L. Willson wrote:
> stream-of-consciousness radio brings you this...
> It will not be possible, nor would it be appropriate, for a show
> author to completely dis-regard the number of downloads of his/her
> show as a measure of it's relative quality. That being the case, it
> is worth developing a catalogue of things that can affect the count
> of downloads, other than the quality of the show.
> - reputation of the author - overall popularity of HPR - season of
> the year - day of the week - popularity of the topic - quality of
> the title - quality of the show-notes - availability of the HPR
> site
> One might reasonably guess that the quality of the show is actually
> the least influential factor, because in order for a show's quality
> to affect the download count for the show, it must be known. For
> the show quality to be known, the show must be listened to, to be
> listened to, the show must be downloaded. So, unless the decision
> to download was based on word-of-mouth or a previous day's listen
> and then the loss or deletion of the file, it's unlikely that the
> quality of this particular show has anything to do with the
> download, at all.
> All that said, show-quality probably still has some effect, whether
> that effect can be isolated and measured, is more than I can
> guess.
> -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite
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> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
> ----- Original Message ----- I think showing downloads per show is
> excellent. It will give hpr folks at conferences a good estimate to
> tell folks that their show could be heard by x people on average.
> On Jun 2, 2014, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie> wrote:
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>>>> Hi All,
>>>> Should we include the number of downloads an episode gets on
>>>> the website ?
>>>> Some points to note: - - The logs are generated every month
>>>> so it would be from month to month. - - hits are defined as 1
>>>> download per show per ip per day.
>>>> We don't have any logs before Sep-2010 so do we a) ignore
>>>> shows before that date even though they have been downloaded 
>>>> since then ? b) calculate some guesstimate for a base and add
>>>> the downloads we do know about.
>>>> My own main objection to doing this is that downloads are not
>>>> a measure of worth of the show.
>>>> Discuss.
>>>> - -- Regards,
>>>> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com 
>>>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30

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