[Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 72, Issue 16

lostnbronx lostnbronx at gmail.com
Fri Sep 19 09:18:18 PDT 2014


I think it's clear that HPR needs a couple of regular shows -- that
is, tech podcasts released through HPR instead of on the producer's
own on a regular basis.  I, personally, don't feel qualified to
produce a tech-based program, and I don't have a buttload of time,
anyway, but I'd be willing to get together on Mumble or something with
anyone who would like to brainstorm ideas for regular podcasts to be
released through the HPR label.  A few ideas off the top of my head:

1.)  Science and Technology in Film and Television -- the host(s) pick
a different movie or show each episode, and then talk/complain about
what the producers of said film or show got right, and what they got
wrong -- and maybe what Hollywood ALWAYS gets wrong.

2.)  Makerspace Update -- Someone with a local maker movement does
regular interviews with the people working there.  It could even be
interviews with the same people over and over, because we would get to
hear about their progress, and become invested in their projects.  I,
personally, do not have a Makerspace near me that I know of, but a lot
of people seem to these days.

3.)  An A-toZ project of some kind, by someone who narrates every step
along the way (for example, "I'm building a computer.  I've purchased
THIS case, for THIS reason; I've purchased THIS power supply for THIS
reason.  Now, the power supply doesn't seem to fit.  I'll have to
drill out some new screw holes. Okay, now I've drilled the holes,and
the power supply fits in with some fiddling.  Next episode, I'll be
putting in the motherboard and the graphics card..."

These are just idle ideas, of course.  If anybody is interested in
talking about taking on a regular commitment like this, I'd be willing
to as well.

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>    4. Re: 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show (x1101)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:09:23 -0400
> From: "James E. Toebes" <james at toebesacademy.com>
> To: Charles Thayer <catintp at yahoo.com>
> Cc: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>,
> 	Nigel Verity <nigelverity at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
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> There was a separate suggestion about 3 days a week.   What about a
> composite of that with this.   Assuming it is possible.   Have a show 4
> days a week.  For the 5 day,  assuming there is a simple way to do it
> (not sure if mumble can be configured for it),   A call in where people
> record up to a 30 second snip that are jammed together and published as
> a feedback episode (reserve Monday each week).  Other possibilities
> might be a google voice mailbox that we could grab all the recordings
> from.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Thayer <catintp at yahoo.com>
> To: Nigel Verity <nigelverity at hotmail.com>
> Cc: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:19:37 -0700
>
> Or we could urge interesting people we know to record or phone in a
> show, and then help them with the show notes.
>
> There's a Mumble server for interviews, too. An interviewee could become
> a new host.
>
> Charles (the Swamped) in NJ
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> From:"Nigel Verity" <nigelverity at hotmail.com>
> Date:Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM
> Subject:Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
>
>
> Hi Ken
>
> I imagine that, more often than not, the first you know about a show is
> when it arrives on the HPR server, or the originator asks for the FTP
> details, This can't be very helpful from a planning perspective.
>
> Perhaps this mailing list could provide a mechanism for people
> "pledging" shows for delivery over the coming weeks. Setting a target
> week rather than a specific date is probably sufficient granularity.
> Clearly it can't be binding, but I'm sure most people would take a
> pledge to deliver seriously. It would also give advance notice of
> forthcoming subjects, which in itself may inspire others.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Regards
>
> Beeza
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:32:33 +0200
>> From: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>
>> To: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
>> Subject: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
>> Message-ID: <541B0921.2020601 at fallon.ie>
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> Earlier this year we had a big push to get shows and the queue was
>> never as healthy. Unfortunately that has the effect of taking the
>> pressure off and so we now have had a period of 25 days since the last
>> show was uploaded. There are still 13 days until we start to have real
>> problems but I want to avoid a all out call for "HPR needs shows now".
>>
>> Those types of campaigns are useful in getting in shows to keep the
>> network going in the short term, and in promoting HPR. But in the end
>> they cause as much harm as they do good. Once the immediate need for
>> shows is met, the flood that follows fills up the queue so much that
>> everyone walks away thinking "well that's fixed". Time marches on and
>> then we have no submissions and a month later we need to start begging
>> again.
>>
>> I would like to have suggestions on how to break this boom to bust
>> cycle of show submissions. We need to see a steady trickle of shows
>> where there is equilibrium between the supply and demand. Those with
>> an insight into the theory of the problem are encouraged to submit a
>> show on the topic.
>>
>> I need the people on this list to start recording some shows for
>> uploading in the next week or two to meet the immediate need. However
>> please do not put out a call for shows. What we need is a call for new
>> hosts and/or new series, and/or new ideas for how we can get a nice
>> steady stream so that supply meets demand.
>>
>> - --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ken Fallon
>> http://kenfallon.com
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:28:03 +0200
> From: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>
> To: Nigel Verity <nigelverity at hotmail.com>,
> 	"hpr at hackerpublicradio.org" <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
> Message-ID: <541BCCF3.7070008 at fallon.ie>
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> On 2014-09-18 23:33, Nigel Verity wrote:
>> Hi Ken
>>
>> I imagine that, more often than not, the first you know about a show is
>> when it arrives on the HPR server, or the originator asks for the FTP
>> details, This can't be very helpful from a planning perspective.
>
>>
>> Perhaps this mailing list could provide a mechanism for people "pledging"
>> shows for delivery over the coming weeks.
>
> Setting a target week rather than a specific date is probably sufficient
> granularity.
>
> Clearly it can't be binding, but I'm sure most people would take a
> pledge to deliver seriously.
>
> It would also give advance notice of forthcoming subjects, which in
> itself may inspire others.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Beeza
>
> Hi Beeza,
>
> Actually I am not involved in planning the schedule in any way (outside
> of my own shows, or advising on when to release). Anyone can pick any
> day the like from the schedule. People delivering a lot of shows tend to
> space them out on a Fortnightly basis, and that leaves a nice amount of
> free slots for the newcomers.
>
> Your idea of a specific day is interesting and you might not remember
> but back in the early days of TWaTech, there was a concept that each
> host would submit one show a month. There was even a reminder system
> that emailed to say when your show was due. As with many good intentions
> that falls to the side after a while as life gets in the way of HPR.
>
> Ken.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:30:01 +0200
> From: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>
> To: Kevin Wisher <kevin.wisher at gmail.com>
> Cc: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
> Message-ID: <541BCD69.602 at fallon.ie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
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> On 2014-09-18 23:55, Kevin Wisher wrote:
>> What about reducing the schedule to a 3-day instead of 5-day?
>>
>
> Hi All,
>
> The release frequency is not the issue and we will have the same
> problem regardless of how fast of slow the release schedule is.
>
> I'm happy to discuss the release schedule on a different thread but
> please try to stay focused on the issue of how to guarantee a
> continuous feed of shows to the queue.
>
> Ken.
>
>
> - --
> Regards,
>
> Ken Fallon
> http://kenfallon.com
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:04:52 -0400
> From: x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com>
> To: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>, Nigel Verity
> 	<nigelverity at hotmail.com>,	"hpr at hackerpublicradio.org"
> 	<hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
> Message-ID: <37839fac-bced-4152-96f0-29ef96e3ec5d at gmx.com>
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> On Sep 19, 2014, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie> wrote:
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>On 2014-09-18 23:33, Nigel Verity wrote:
>>> Hi Ken
>>>
>>> I imagine that, more often than not, the first you know about a show
>>is when it arrives on the HPR server, or the originator asks for the
>>FTP details, This can't be very helpful from a planning perspective.
>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps this mailing list could provide a mechanism for people
>>"pledging" shows for delivery over the coming weeks.
>>
>>Setting a target week rather than a specific date is probably
>>sufficient
>>granularity.
>>
>>Clearly it can't be binding, but I'm sure most people would take a
>>pledge to deliver seriously.
>>
>>It would also give advance notice of forthcoming subjects, which in
>>itself may inspire others.
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Beeza
>>
>>Hi Beeza,
>>
>>Actually I am not involved in planning the schedule in any way (outside
>>of my own shows, or advising on when to release). Anyone can pick any
>>day the like from the schedule. People delivering a lot of shows tend
>>to
>>space them out on a Fortnightly basis, and that leaves a nice amount of
>>free slots for the newcomers.
>>
>>Your idea of a specific day is interesting and you might not remember
>>but back in the early days of TWaTech, there was a concept that each
>>host would submit one show a month. There was even a reminder system
>>that emailed to say when your show was due. As with many good
>>intentions
>>that falls to the side after a while as life gets in the way of HPR.
>>
>>Ken.
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> How feasible would it be to send out weekly (or even daily) queue stats to
> the list? Seeing the average intake over time might push up time tables on
> folks already planning episodes.
>
> /x1101
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