[Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 99, Issue 7

lostnbronx lostnbronx at gmail.com
Tue Dec 13 12:28:27 PST 2016

I believe the Explicit tag is adequate. Anything further becomes some
sort of ratings system, which is a rabbit hole no one wants to go
down. This has hardly been the first episode with enough bad language
or questionable content to make people stop and think, and it's not
the first time this conversation has come up in the community.

With a single tag designating Explicit content, people are free to
decide whether or not they want to listen. And they always have the
power to stop listening, when that content starts to exceed their
tolerance level.

Personally, I cherry-pick all my podcasts, including HPR episodes.
When I hear something I don't like, I stop listening and hit delete.
Do we really want this to become more complicated than that?

On 12/13/16, hpr-request at hackerpublicradio.org
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> From: Dave Lee <dave at thelovebug.org>
> To: x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com>,	"hpr at hackerpublicradio.org"
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> I have to disagree with this to a point.
> I think that having an explicit tag for the odd contextual swear word is
> fine, and I may want to listen to those episodes, so I'm not going to
> filter out episodes on the basis of the explicit tag.  However, having just
> listened to the episode in question, I would not want to listen to
> gratuitous swearing for the sake of swearing, or - in this case - name
> calling.
> The language doesn't bother me, but the (and I think this term was used in
> the episode comments) _aggressive_ nature of the language used - e.g.
> "you're a political f---wit", and the very offensive use of the term
> "retard".
> I do believe that spaceman was making a really good point, but I think it
> ended up being diluted by the tone used.
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 6:50 PM x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com> wrote:
>> I concur, HPR is a network for people to express themselves, and while I
>> strongly believe in a censorship-free HPR, that doesn?t mean that we have
>> the right to force someone to listen to explicit material if they do not
>> wish to. This ?explicit? tag gives people a piece of information to make
>> that choice for themselves. I know that I will always tag my shows as
>> ?explicit?, because I don?t keep track of my language. While I appreciate
>> that there are other things that folks might find offensive outside of
>> technically explicit language, its a good start.
>> Keep the vulgarity, keep the tag, and let us all decide for ourselves
>> what
>> we want to produce and what we want to listen to.
>> /x1101
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> The question is, how to do we provide information to you (and others) that
> this might contain ?aggressive? language, while not restricting what folks
> say? Do we add a ?very explicit? tag? An Explicit-o-meter?? I can?t help but
> feel that if the answer we come up with is ?censorship? then we need to go
> back and find another one.
> /x1101
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