[Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes

Fifty OneFifty fiftyonefifty at linuxbasement.com
Fri Jul 7 04:47:26 PDT 2017


I give the HPR admins explicit permission to edit my show notes as they see
fit.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:50 PM, <hpr-request at hackerpublicradio.org> wrote:

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>    1. Permission to modify the show notes (Ken Fallon)
>    2. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (x1101)
>    3. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Charles Thayer)
>    4. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Bob Jonkman)
>    5. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Kevin O'Brien)
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 21:42:39 +0200
> From: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>
> To: "hpr at hackerpublicradio.org" <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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> Hi All,
>
> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some even
> need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see the main
> page for more information.
>
> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good idea to do
> a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
> links still work and point to where the host originally intended, etc.
>
> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
> notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
> "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
> historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>
> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative works" on
> the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have show
> notes so they were often added by the admins.
>
> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of Speech and
> Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
>
> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ken Fallon
> http://kenfallon.com
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:46:50 -0400
> From: x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com>
> To: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>
> Cc: "hpr at hackerpublicradio.org" <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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> I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>
> I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but have
> they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude them from
> editing?
>
> Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR admins
> permission to modify my show note as needed.
>
>
> /x1101
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> > Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some even
> > need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see the main
> > page for more information.
> >
> > In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good idea to do
> > a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
> > links still work and point to where the host originally intended, etc.
> >
> > I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
> > notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
> > "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
> > historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
> >
> > The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative works" on
> > the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have show
> > notes so they were often added by the admins.
> >
> > Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of Speech and
> > Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> > http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
> >
> > So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ken Fallon
> > http://kenfallon.com
> > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hpr mailing list
> > Hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 16:20:43 -0400
> From: Charles Thayer <catintp at yahoo.com>
> To: x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com>
> Cc: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie>, "hpr at hackerpublicradio.org"
>         <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
> Message-ID: <7D687B9E-40BB-4AF1-8DDB-0E035090A470 at yahoo.com>
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> Go ahead, anyone, if brave ye be.
>
> I was going to rework the notes myself before real life descended...
>
> C
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
> >
> > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but have
> they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude them from
> editing?
> >
> > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR admins
> permission to modify my show note as needed.
> >
> >
> > /x1101
> >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> >> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some even
> >> need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see the main
> >> page for more information.
> >>
> >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good idea to do
> >> a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
> >> links still work and point to where the host originally intended, etc.
> >>
> >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
> >> notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
> >> "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
> >> historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
> >>
> >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative works" on
> >> the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have show
> >> notes so they were often added by the admins.
> >>
> >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of Speech and
> >> Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
> >>
> >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ken Fallon
> >> http://kenfallon.com
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Hpr mailing list
> >> Hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
> >
> >
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> > Hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 17:00:37 -0400
> From: Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
> To: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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> I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR. And even
> though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release
> my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did this for
> HPR, not for me.
>
> While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment common
> to most HPR contributors.
>
> So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed.
>
> - --Bob.
>
>
> On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote:
> > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
> >
> > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
> > have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
> > them from editing?
> >
> > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
> > admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
> >
> >
> > /x1101
> >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> >>  Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
> >> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can
> >> help - see the main page for more information.
> >>
> >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
> >> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the
> >> html, check the links still work and point to where the host
> >> originally intended, etc.
> >>
> >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
> >> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from
> >> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this
> >> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
> >>
> >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
> >> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows
> >> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins.
> >>
> >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
> >> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
> >>
> >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
> >>
> >> -- Regards,
> >>
> >> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list
> >>  Hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.o
> rg
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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> g
> >
> >
> >
> - --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:49:02 -0400
> From: "Kevin O'Brien" <zwilnik at zwilnik.com>
> Cc: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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> I don't see any problem. The license allows it (CC-BY-SA), and more
> importantly I doubt anyone will object to making their show better for the
> archives.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> --
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> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>
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> > I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR. And even
> > though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release
> > my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did this for
> > HPR, not for me.
> >
> > While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment common
> > to most HPR contributors.
> >
> > So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed.
> >
> > - --Bob.
> >
> >
> > On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote:
> > > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
> > >
> > > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
> > > have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
> > > them from editing?
> > >
> > > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
> > > admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
> > >
> > >
> > > /x1101
> > >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi All,
> > >>
> > >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> > >>  Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
> > >> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can
> > >> help - see the main page for more information.
> > >>
> > >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
> > >> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the
> > >> html, check the links still work and point to where the host
> > >> originally intended, etc.
> > >>
> > >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
> > >> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from
> > >> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this
> > >> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
> > >>
> > >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
> > >> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows
> > >> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins.
> > >>
> > >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
> > >> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> > >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
> > >>
> > >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
> > >>
> > >> -- Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com
> > >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list
> > >>  Hpr at hackerpublicradio.org
> > >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.o
> > rg
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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