[Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes

James Toebes james at toebesacademy.com
Fri Jul 7 07:39:34 PDT 2017


I have only contributed a few (ToeJet), but you are free to modify them 
as you see fit.   License change (CC-0) if desired as well.

Dang,  Am I really that long on the additional ones I said I should do?  
Please don't sent the HPR hit squad to take me out....   Ken, I apologize.


On 7/7/2017 7:47 AM, Fifty OneFifty wrote:
> I give the HPR admins explicit permission to edit my show notes as 
> they see fit.
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:50 PM, <hpr-request at hackerpublicradio.org 
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>        1. Permission to modify the show notes (Ken Fallon)
>        2. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (x1101)
>        3. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Charles Thayer)
>        4. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Bob Jonkman)
>        5. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Kevin O'Brien)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 21:42:39 +0200
>     From: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>>
>     To: "hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>"
>     <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>>
>     Subject: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
>     Message-ID: <d1daffbc-6aeb-337b-0979-7815d91cee0f at fallon.ie
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>     Hi All,
>
>     As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>     Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some even
>     need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see the
>     main
>     page for more information.
>
>     In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good idea
>     to do
>     a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
>     links still work and point to where the host originally intended, etc.
>
>     I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
>     notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
>     "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
>     historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>
>     The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative works" on
>     the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have show
>     notes so they were often added by the admins.
>
>     Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
>     Speech and
>     Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>     http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>
>     So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>
>     --
>     Regards,
>
>     Ken Fallon
>     http://kenfallon.com
>     http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
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>     Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:46:50 -0400
>     From: x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com <mailto:x1101 at gmx.com>>
>     To: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>>
>     Cc: "hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>"
>     <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
>     Message-ID: <320D9AF6-B116-4A60-B35D-A6D9DC9C9ECC at gmx.com
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>     I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>
>     I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
>     have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
>     them from editing?
>
>     Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
>     admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
>
>
>     /x1101
>     > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie
>     <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi All,
>     >
>     > As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>     > Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some
>     even
>     > need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see
>     the main
>     > page for more information.
>     >
>     > In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
>     idea to do
>     > a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
>     > links still work and point to where the host originally
>     intended, etc.
>     >
>     > I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
>     > notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
>     > "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
>     > historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>     >
>     > The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
>     works" on
>     > the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have
>     show
>     > notes so they were often added by the admins.
>     >
>     > Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
>     Speech and
>     > Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>     > http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>     >
>     > So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>     >
>     > --
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Ken Fallon
>     > http://kenfallon.com
>     > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
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>     Message: 3
>     Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 16:20:43 -0400
>     From: Charles Thayer <catintp at yahoo.com <mailto:catintp at yahoo.com>>
>     To: x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com <mailto:x1101 at gmx.com>>
>     Cc: Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>>,
>     "hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>"
>             <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
>     Message-ID: <7D687B9E-40BB-4AF1-8DDB-0E035090A470 at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:7D687B9E-40BB-4AF1-8DDB-0E035090A470 at yahoo.com>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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>     Go ahead, anyone, if brave ye be.
>
>     I was going to rework the notes myself before real life descended...
>
>     C
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, x1101 <x1101 at gmx.com
>     <mailto:x1101 at gmx.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>     >
>     > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA,
>     but have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and
>     exclude them from editing?
>     >
>     > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
>     admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
>     >
>     >
>     > /x1101
>     >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie
>     <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hi All,
>     >>
>     >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>     >> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
>     Some even
>     >> need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see
>     the main
>     >> page for more information.
>     >>
>     >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
>     idea to do
>     >> a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
>     >> links still work and point to where the host originally
>     intended, etc.
>     >>
>     >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
>     show
>     >> notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
>     >> "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
>     >> historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>     >>
>     >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
>     works" on
>     >> the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't
>     have show
>     >> notes so they were often added by the admins.
>     >>
>     >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
>     Speech and
>     >> Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>     >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>     >>
>     >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> Regards,
>     >>
>     >> Ken Fallon
>     >> http://kenfallon.com
>     >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
>     >>
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>     Message: 4
>     Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 17:00:37 -0400
>     From: Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>>
>     To: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
>     Message-ID: <340dabbb-b1c5-0245-f57d-2e1095be792a at sobac.com
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>     I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR. And even
>     though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release
>     my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did this for
>     HPR, not for me.
>
>     While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment common
>     to most HPR contributors.
>
>     So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed.
>
>     - --Bob.
>
>
>     On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote:
>     > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>     >
>     > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
>     > have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
>     > them from editing?
>     >
>     > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
>     > admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
>     >
>     >
>     > /x1101
>     >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie
>     <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hi All,
>     >>
>     >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>     >>  Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
>     >> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can
>     >> help - see the main page for more information.
>     >>
>     >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
>     >> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the
>     >> html, check the links still work and point to where the host
>     >> originally intended, etc.
>     >>
>     >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
>     >> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from
>     >> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this
>     >> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>     >>
>     >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
>     >> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows
>     >> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins.
>     >>
>     >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
>     >> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>     >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>     >>
>     >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>     >>
>     >> -- Regards,
>     >>
>     >> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com
>     >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
>     >>
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>     Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:49:02 -0400
>     From: "Kevin O'Brien" <zwilnik at zwilnik.com
>     <mailto:zwilnik at zwilnik.com>>
>     Cc: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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>     I don't see any problem. The license allows it (CC-BY-SA), and more
>     importantly I doubt anyone will object to making their show better
>     for the
>     archives.
>
>     Regards.
>
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>     On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
>     <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
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>     > I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR.
>     And even
>     > though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release
>     > my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did
>     this for
>     > HPR, not for me.
>     >
>     > While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment
>     common
>     > to most HPR contributors.
>     >
>     > So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed.
>     >
>     > - --Bob.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote:
>     > > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>     > >
>     > > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
>     > > have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
>     > > them from editing?
>     > >
>     > > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
>     > > admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > /x1101
>     > >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <ken at fallon.ie
>     <mailto:ken at fallon.ie>> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> Hi All,
>     > >>
>     > >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>     > >>  Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
>     > >> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can
>     > >> help - see the main page for more information.
>     > >>
>     > >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
>     > >> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the
>     > >> html, check the links still work and point to where the host
>     > >> originally intended, etc.
>     > >>
>     > >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
>     > >> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from
>     > >> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this
>     > >> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>     > >>
>     > >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
>     > >> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows
>     > >> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins.
>     > >>
>     > >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
>     > >> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>     > >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>     > >>
>     > >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>     > >>
>     > >> -- Regards,
>     > >>
>     > >> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com
>     > >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>     <http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
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