[Hpr] Harassment

jason jason.s.dodd at gmail.com
Mon Dec 16 17:24:26 PST 2019


In my opinion the point at hand is regarding how hpr behaves, not how 
the harassed or harassed behaves.  Those are important points but not 
really the point of the discussion.

On 12/16/19 7:33 PM, brian via Hpr wrote:
> this kind of escalation seems to be common lately. let us not allow it 
> to invade... our community is one of inclusiveness, and i have not 
> seen the contrary, except for a brief spaceman/vulgarity moment. i 
> feel we were civil in that instance, and we can remain so now. realize 
> that tone and tact are left to be interpreted by the reader. paul was 
> offering a positive thought in my opinion, while it may have been 
> heard as callous to jason. i still have no context with this incident, 
> so the discussion is of harassment in general. this has many 
> connotations to us all.
> --brian
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Dec 16, 2019, 16:30, Jason Scott < jason at textfiles.com> wrote:
>
>
>     Spoken like someone who has never really been harassed.
>
>     On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 1:34 PM Paul Quirk <paul at pquirk.com
>     <mailto:paul at pquirk.com>> wrote:
>
>         At some point, those who are being harassed need to recognize
>         the fact
>         that they have the power to ignore their harassers and
>         recognize that
>         engaging with certain personalities that conflict with your
>         own as a
>         complete waste of your time. Just go on doing what you're
>         doing; life's
>         too short to not have fun, and I for one think that we should all
>         consider that perhaps those who are harassing others have
>         their own
>         personal issues to deal with. If you think of your harasser as
>         a 5 year
>         old brat who never grew up beyond the playground taunts, it
>         becomes much
>         easier to dismiss them as such. Seriously though, mental
>         illness is a
>         big issue in today's high paced, highly competitive, stressed
>         out and
>         drugged up world, and often finding compassion for those you
>         feel are
>         harassing you can lead to a long term sense of well-being. That's
>         another two cents from me, I'm almost up to a nickel now. :)
>
>         On 2019-12-14 10:52 a.m., lostnbronx wrote:
>         > When you think about it, it's surprising we haven't had this
>         problem
>         > before. Unless we did, and it just wasn't brought to light.
>         >
>         > Can we assume the harassment source was from within the
>         community, and
>         > not just from random trolls on the Internet? I think
>         removing email
>         > addresses of hosts is a great first step, at any rate.
>         >
>         > A CoC would give the admins the power to act without having
>         to seek
>         > community consensus on every incident. It would also provide
>         clear
>         > guidelines for community members and admins alike regarding
>         how to
>         > behave, and what will happen if you don't.
>         >
>         > It makes me sad that we need this, but I guess we were overdue.
>         >
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