[Hpr] Harassment

venant at protonmail.ch venant at protonmail.ch
Mon Dec 16 17:35:19 PST 2019


i believe it does matter how the individuals behave, else there is nothing to discuss... this is the devolution of conversation that i was referring to, and i will not add to this amplification any longer. i have no information, and trust ken.
--brian
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On Dec 16, 2019, 18:24, jason wrote:

> In my opinion the point at hand is regarding how hpr behaves, not how the harassed or harassed behaves.  Those are important points but not really the point of the discussion.
>
> On 12/16/19 7:33 PM, brian via Hpr wrote:
>
>> this kind of escalation seems to be common lately. let us not allow it to invade... our community is one of inclusiveness, and i have not seen the contrary, except for a brief spaceman/vulgarity moment. i feel we were civil in that instance, and we can remain so now. realize that tone and tact are left to be interpreted by the reader. paul was offering a positive thought in my opinion, while it may have been heard as callous to jason. i still have no context with this incident, so the discussion is of harassment in general. this has many connotations to us all.
>> --brian
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Dec 16, 2019, 16:30, Jason Scott < jason at textfiles.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Spoken like someone who has never really been harassed.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 1:34 PM Paul Quirk <paul at pquirk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At some point, those who are being harassed need to recognize the fact
>>>> that they have the power to ignore their harassers and recognize that
>>>> engaging with certain personalities that conflict with your own as a
>>>> complete waste of your time. Just go on doing what you're doing; life's
>>>> too short to not have fun, and I for one think that we should all
>>>> consider that perhaps those who are harassing others have their own
>>>> personal issues to deal with. If you think of your harasser as a 5 year
>>>> old brat who never grew up beyond the playground taunts, it becomes much
>>>> easier to dismiss them as such. Seriously though, mental illness is a
>>>> big issue in today's high paced, highly competitive, stressed out and
>>>> drugged up world, and often finding compassion for those you feel are
>>>> harassing you can lead to a long term sense of well-being. That's
>>>> another two cents from me, I'm almost up to a nickel now. :)
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-12-14 10:52 a.m., lostnbronx wrote:
>>>>> When you think about it, it's surprising we haven't had this problem
>>>>> before. Unless we did, and it just wasn't brought to light.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we assume the harassment source was from within the community, and
>>>>> not just from random trolls on the Internet? I think removing email
>>>>> addresses of hosts is a great first step, at any rate.
>>>>>
>>>>> A CoC would give the admins the power to act without having to seek
>>>>> community consensus on every incident. It would also provide clear
>>>>> guidelines for community members and admins alike regarding how to
>>>>> behave, and what will happen if you don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> It makes me sad that we need this, but I guess we were overdue.
>>>>>
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