[Hpr] Should we reject a show with copyrighted fair use clips in it ?

Mike Ray mike at raspberryvi.org
Thu May 23 02:06:32 PDT 2019

If you are in any doubt at all about it, and your head might be on the
block if it violates any rules, then reject it.

Erring on the cautious side is the best policy here.  And there are
plenty of things to podcast about on HPR without needing to resort to
including potentially copyrighted audio clips.

A few days ago I was thinking about a podcast about the BBC shipping
forecast.  But I rejected the idea since I can hardly talk about the
shipping forecast without playing the 'Sailing By' tune which always
plays before it at 1:00 AM.  But that is no doubt copyright, so I won't
do it.

On 23/05/2019 09:50, Ken Fallon wrote:
> Hi All,
> Under safe harbor provisions, we as volunteers are usually insulated
> from any copyright issues that may arise in the shows. "We do not vet,
> edit, moderate or in any way censor any of the shows on the network, we
> trust you to do that."
> This we got by accident because "This is a long standing tradition
> arising from the fact that HPR is a community of peers who believe that
> any host has as much right to submit shows as any other."
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#not_moderated
> In the show notes associated with hpr2829 on 2019-06-06, the host
> included the following text "For all included materials: If anyone feels
> they have right to any material in this show please let me know and I
> will comply."
> This violates the HPR upload policy
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#permission
> "Never include content, for example music, in your show that you do not
> have permission to redistribute. Try to avoid using any content in your
> show that can not be redistributed under a Creative Commons
> Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. If you are redistributing
> under another Creative Commons License or by arranged permission please
> make note of the restrictions when you upload your show. We can then
> signal that, so that others who redistribute HPR content can filter your
> show out."
> As it was clear that they were not in compliance, I contacted the host.
> The host has been very helpful and has already removed some of the
> content but commented "There are still 2 audio clips included. I claim I
> can use them on the basis off fair use principles."
> While the host may be correct, if they are not, then it is me and not
> the host that will be held responsible for posting it. I do not want
> that responsibility.
> Under the current HPR rules I am allowed to reject this submission.
> Before I do, I would appreciate as much feedback as possible on this
> topic so that we can gauge the opinions of the HPR Community as a whole.
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Michael A. Ray
Witley, Surrey, South-east UK

"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery


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