[Hpr] Regarding episode 3414 and COVID-19 disinformation

Nigel Verity nigelverity at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 17 13:59:09 PDT 2021

I totally agree with Brian-In-Ohio, and note that 2 of the those suggesting the episode should be taken down had not at the time of doing so even listened to it.

After 18 months of epidemic surely there can be few people anywhere who have seen, heard and read so little about Covid that listening to one episode is going to change their "world view". I like to think that the typical HPR listener is somebody who will give any host the courtesy of listening to what they have to say, even if they find that they disagree with most of it.

How are we supposed to form balanced views, whether the subject be Covid, politics, religion or anything else if we don't have access to a range of opinions or narratives of people's experiences? Calls to take down episodes that support anything other than a narrow "official" line, to prevent others from having access to an alternative view, really are the thin end of a dangerous wedge.

Brian is right, the "free speech" way to deal with this is for those objecting to submit their own shows, taking issue with points made in the original show. There will undoubtedly be firmly held and logically justifiable views on all sides of the arguments. There are few enough outlets for genuinely free expression these days, and fortunately HPR is one of them. There is nothing in the code of conduct to suggest that shows must be non-critical of one another - as long as they do not descend into personal abuse against a host, of course - and the comments sections allow listeners to express their views as well.

Rather than take down a show that some deem controversial, why not seize this opportunity to invigorate HPR?


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From: Hpr <hpr-bounces at hackerpublicradio.org> on behalf of BK Navarette <bknavarette at gmail.com>
Sent: 17 September 2021 20:34
To: hpr at hackerpublicradio.org <hpr at hackerpublicradio.org>
Subject: Re: [Hpr] Regarding episode 3414 and COVID-19 disinformation

I listened to the episode and it was as good as any other, lets assume
that hpr listeners are as smart as they need to be and not turn hpr into
another nanny state.


also if you have another take on any subject (including forth) do a show
we'd love to hear it

On 9/17/21 15:27, Mike Ray wrote:
> I haven't listened to it. Don't listen to many these days, but yes I
> agree it should be taken down.
> On 17/09/2021 20:22, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have not heard the episode yet but agree with you that health
>> disinformation is a plague that should be dealt with.
>> Regards,
>> Jeroen Baten
>> On 17-09-2021 21:09, nihilazo via Hpr wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I have been wanting to contribute another episode to HPR for years but
>>> have not got around to it yet. However I am more skeptical to lend my
>>> voice to HPR after the publication of episode 3414, which spreads
>>> anti-vaccine and conspiratorial ideas and promotes vitamin B3 as a
>>> vaccine alternative (which has some benefits, as a preventative
>>> alongside the vaccine, but is no replacement, and studies are still
>>> fairly preliminary).
>>> I understand that usual HPR policy dictates that episodes are not to
>>> be edited or removed after they are uploaded but in the case of this
>>> episode I think it's irresponsible for Hacker Public Radio to leave it
>>> up, especially in the midst of a global health crisis.
>>> Are there any plans to deal with this episode's potentially harmful
>>> content?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nico
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