[Hpr] Regarding episode 3414 and COVID-19 disinformation

stankdawg at stankdawg.com stankdawg at stankdawg.com
Fri Sep 17 22:40:26 PDT 2021


Replying to the first message in this thread but the entire thread disappoints me. 

We share different viewpoints on a lot things. Since when did we ever even think for a moment that censoring or controlling the free flow of information was acceptable?  Some of you even admitted that you didn’t listen to the damn thing!!!  Yet you want to pull it down without hearing it?!?! Is this April fools day?

I am ashamed. I thought we were hackers. Since when did hackers become afraid of information?

I am disgusted that this conversation took more than 30 seconds.

Put up episodes with opposing viewpoints and information. Keep to the facts and opinions of the data as you see it. Don’t make it personal.

Stop being Karens. 

-DB

Sent from my iPhone.

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Carl Chave <online at chave.us> wrote:
> 
> I'm Carl, but not the same Carl (aka CoGo) that did episode 3414. I
> wish everyone well and hope to submit a show soon!
> 
> Carl
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 7:15 PM Mike Ray <mike at raspberryvi.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> With the greatest respect to the people of New Zealand, which have done
>> a great job in general, and their prime minister, who is a superstar,
>> the country has a population of half of that of London. So no wonder it
>> has been easy to keep infections down.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17/09/2021 23:56, Klaatu wrote:
>>> Content is frequently edited on HPR. Our shownotes team is very active in
>>> maintaining relevant shownotes, correcting errors, and so on.
>>> 
>>> Technically, we also prepend and append audio to episodes that require intro
>>> and outro sequences.
>>> 
>>> I think links to some country's disease control could be useful in the
>>> shownotes. After all, the show host *is* encouraging people to think
>>> critically about a disease, so providing a link to knowledgeable sources of
>>> information seems in line with what that episode is [technically] all about.
>>> I'm not convinced that the US's CDC is the best source of information,
>>> however. I propose the New Zealand government site, as NZ has been able to
>>> keep casualties and breakouts pretty low. https://covid19.govt.nz/health-and-wellbeing/about-covid-19/
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 10:29:47 AM NZST BK Navarette wrote:
>>>> I thought content wasn't edited on hpr.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian-in-ohio
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/17/21 17:21, Joshua Knapp wrote:
>>>>> Would it be possible to actually flag 3414 with the information to the
>>>>> CDC or other reputable source of information?  Similar to how YouTube
>>>>> and other services flag posts like this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 2:17 PM Klaatu <klaatu at mixedsignals.ml> wrote:
>>>>>    It is objectively true that people are dying from Covid-19, and if
>>>>>    that didn't
>>>>>    concern the Hacker Public Radio community, I'd be saddened and
>>>>>    disappointed in
>>>>>    all of us.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Most listeners of HPR are not on this mailing list.  I propose we
>>>>>    combat the
>>>>>    disinformation in 3414 with *several* episodes of correct
>>>>>    information. I
>>>>>    believe the best cure for ignorance is knowledge.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    People already believe that "critical thinking" (read: ignoring
>>>>>    scientific
>>>>>    evidence and "doing your own research" even though you have no
>>>>>    access to Covid
>>>>>    patients or laboratories) will expose "the truth" behind Covid.
>>>>>    Episode 3414
>>>>>    isn't introducing anybody to these ideas.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Episodes in response to it, however, could be the thing that gives
>>>>>    someone the
>>>>>    courage to stop all of their head-in-the-sand "critical thinking"
>>>>>    and to start
>>>>>    listening to the experts.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    I'm happy to do an episode in response, and in fact I'll post one
>>>>>    later today.
>>>>>    I'd be happier still if anybody responding to this thread does the
>>>>>    same.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    -klaatu
>>>>> 
>>>>>> brian-in-ohio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/17/21 15:09, nihilazo via Hpr wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I have been wanting to contribute another episode to HPR for
>>>>> 
>>>>>    years but
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> have not got around to it yet. However I am more skeptical to
>>>>> 
>>>>>    lend my
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> voice to HPR after the publication of episode 3414, which spreads
>>>>>>> anti-vaccine and conspiratorial ideas and promotes vitamin B3 as a
>>>>>>> vaccine alternative (which has some benefits, as a preventative
>>>>>>> alongside the vaccine, but is no replacement, and studies are
>>>>> 
>>>>>    still
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> fairly preliminary).
>>>>>>> I understand that usual HPR policy dictates that episodes are
>>>>> 
>>>>>    not to
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> be edited or removed after they are uploaded but in the case
>>>>> 
>>>>>    of this
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> episode I think it's irresponsible for Hacker Public Radio to
>>>>> 
>>>>>    leave it
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> up, especially in the midst of a global health crisis.
>>>>>>> Are there any plans to deal with this episode's potentially
>>>>> 
>>>>>    harmful
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> content?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Nico
>>>>>>> 
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