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hpr2169 :: How I connect to the awesome #oggcastplanet on mobile

I give a quick overview of the challenges of IRC on the go and how Riot and Matrix solve them for me

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On HPR #2162 I mentioned that I'm connecting to freenode IRC using Riot and Matrix. Here I explain a bit of background to why, what Matrix is, and why you should use it too.

Quick-quick version

Just go to https://riot.im/app/#/room/#freenode_#oggcastplanet:matrix.org, click Join and you're on the channel! If you register a user there (or maybe on another instance, like @lambadalambda's https://matrix.heldscal.la/), you can then log in with the same username and password in the Android app and see all your joined channels there.

Correction to audio: Riot is on F-Droid. For some reason I couldn't find it at the time, even though it's clearly there, so I'm currently using the version from the Google Play Store. I hear that battery use may be an issue if you're independent from the evil GOOG.

Alternatives

Other ways of connecting to IRC over flaky or intermittent connections without losing context:

  • ZNC
  • In particular, check out this pretty elaborate ZNC-on-ZNC setup to solve the issue with having multiple devices that all want an independent scrollback buffer. I was just about considering setting up something like this when I discovered the Matrix bridge instead.
  • One colleague of mine uses Quassel and loves it.
  • Another colleague uses irssi ConnectBot or something similar and can't understand why anybody would want anything else.

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Comment #1 posted on 2016-11-06 11:25:13 by clacke

More discussion and XMPP

More discussion of Slack alternatives at https://quitter.se/notice/7891738 .

I mentioned briefly in the episode that XMPP has extensions that make it better for mobile. https://getkaiwa.com/ brings up Message Archive Management (XEP-0313) and Message Carbons (XEP-0280). Would be great if somebody has been using these with multiple inermittent devices and has comments on how well they work.

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0280.html

Comment #2 posted on 2021-11-06 03:15:40 by clacke

NickServ authentication

Things have happened with IRC since 2016. In 2020 Thaj Sara recorded HPR 3034 https://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=3034 as an update to this show, explaining how you can make Matrix authenticate your nick when it connects to IRC.

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