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Hi everybody, my name is Kent Fallon, and you're listening to HPR Community News for September 2014.
This is a monthly show that is done by volunteers within the HPR community.
Joining me tonight is Huka, and our normal host, Dave, is away having a wonderful time at our camp.
So how are you doing today Huka?
It's a little bit of a cold, but other than that, doing fine.
Excellent stuff, so how was your vacation?
It was good. It was somehow the very first weekend of August was the Dublin Irish Festival.
That's Dublin, Ohio, in the United States, Kent, but it's closest I'm going to get for now.
And then the following beginning of September, it was another focus, so they were all good fun.
So what happens as a Dublin Irish Festival? A lot of Irish music, and dancing, and cultural stuff,
so it's like three days of geeking out on your Irishness, I guess.
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
So you like Irish music too?
Oh, love Irish music.
Nice, that's interesting. From I said, talked to you offline about that sometime. Anyway, it's back, dragging us back to the point.
Could you introduce the new hosts for this month, please?
Well, looks like we've got three of them. First is Steve Smithhurst.
The second is Tobey Frank, and the third is GoFear.
And we would like to welcome them to the network, and look forward to hearing some fantastic shows
from, so without further ado, let's quickly mosey through some of the shows for last month starting
with HBO or Community News for August 2014, because Dave and I won, left stranded,
of the sort of people went on vacations. Just as a by-the-by-time, anybody, this is an open show.
We normally schedule around 1600 UTC.
And first, the Saturday, before the first Monday of the month, which seems to be very complicated,
but if you want to do this, as a different time, you only get a group of people together,
and feel free to do that. That's absolutely no problem.
All the show notes now are more or less all automatically generated by a pro scoops,
as it is my intention to place myself and everybody else here with pro scoops if we could possibly do that.
Yeah, more than a year. So the next day, we had beginners going to the night sky three,
a wee dot in the dark sky, and this is Andrew Kahnway from Tuxchem, and I do,
I am really enjoying his accent, and I am really enjoying this. It's nice to have somebody refer
to the constellations and then have a scientific use in them for scientific purposes.
Oh, absolutely. I love this stuff. I get a lot of videos from NASA and the European,
like the European Southern Observatory and things like that, so I love it.
I'm more of these, the better, as far as I can say.
Then we had the ladies and gentlemen of the HCR Audio Book Club going strong with
down and out in the Magic Kingdom, and they have done really excellent job on the show notes
long may that continue. I can't stress how important the show notes are. Although they
spoiler highlight three, while it seems like a good idea, it has presented me with problems
on my tablets. So I'm a bit concerned about that, but we can always, if you have spoilers,
we can link to another page for spoilers. That's not a problem.
Yeah, the only thing that occurs to me is why does it necessarily have to be audio book?
I mean, if you're going to get a bunch of people together to discuss a book,
discuss any kind of book, couldn't you? Good, but I guess the point here is where a podcast
and people are not really listening to podcasts will kind of lend themselves to other books,
as well, or to other media in the podcast format.
Yeah, I understand that. I listen to so many podcasts. I don't have time for audio books.
Yeah, I've actually listened to two tanks Dave Morris with his 4,000 podcast thing.
I'm listening to Escape Pods, a lot of really short fiction episodes, which are really nice,
just you can turn yourself off for a half an hour. It's a podcast or a story, and it's quick,
and really makes me remember the days when I read lots of short science fiction stories.
But, yeah, that's by the way, to download some of the Magic Kingdom by Corey Doctor.
This is one that I actually didn't read because I don't know some of Corey Doctorals
stuff just never kind of float on my boat. Not nothing intentional that the fault I'm sure
is all mine, but I don't get it. It doesn't turn me on. Oh, so bad. Indeed, indeed.
But we did get the wonderful program from Mr. Gadgets. We did, yes. Tell us about that.
The Kansas City Maker Fair. Now, I've met Mr. Gadgets at Ohio Linux Fest. I don't know whether I'm
going to see him there this year. That's still several weeks away, but he's a wonderful fellow,
and it was really nice hearing. I love hearing about Maker Affairs just in general.
I get some wonderful movement. I couldn't agree more. Love the concept myself.
I find like the Maker Fair is like the part in the Zendai is one more myself, and one more
life's interest. Yes. Yeah, and I think a lot of when you talk about Maker Affairs,
you're talking about hardware stuff primarily, but that's a big part of where I think I worry
about what's happening to the internet is as becoming a purely consumer medium and not a place
for people to get in and do things. Yeah, but there's still, yeah, I see your point, but there's still
the, I was just showing the kids today. The TCPI people come to shelf going price. That's the
internet for you. That's how it works. Hopefully you can always go down. We shouldn't take a
background, but you can go down to the package level and then more stuff. That's how I do worry a
little bit about how much stuff has been transferred over the HGDB protocol. People seem to think
that's the only port that exists is port 80. Yep. Anyway, the following day we had the XFS
file systems by JWP like these, the short, the punchy, and they just give you enough information
to which they're the priority of file systems. Oh, yeah, I love it. And, you know, I guess the only
question I have is the series over now, because I was looking ahead, not sure I see much coming up.
Well, there is the 14, 6, 7, 8, 9. No, they're over the better FS, the shorter FS is the last one,
and that was on the third, so the next month will be the next month review will be discussed
in that one, but yeah. Oh, okay. It's not like open office. You can drag it out forever.
I'm afraid files, files systems, and at a particular point in time. Are you saying after two
and a half years, I'm dragging it out? No, no. Yes, yes, yes. The following day,
ultimate cooking devices like these ones real world sort of stuff. And I actually went all the
links. You should go to the links in this, because I had no idea what a web or grill was, but then
I, yeah, quickly found out what it was, you know, your basic cattle grill. Yeah, exactly. Well,
oddly enough, in Ireland, the world barbecue is synonymous for a rainy day, so it barbecue is
tend to be an inspirational item, as opposed to something you've actually
had. Anyway, open source newsbreak opens CMS tools for making presentations. We can
we can project med, and this is part of the newscast series, and Thomas, what's going on in the
in the open source news.com, which is. And I like what semi-artic is doing here,
because, you know, the first few that he did was just, you know, real quick rundown in just a few minutes,
but he's now invited someone else to come in and join him, and they actually discuss some of
this stuff, which I think makes it a lot more attractive. Yes, it's a bit like, yeah,
putting something on the cracker. I'm using a lot of food analogies tonight. I have no idea why,
but anyhow, yes, I'm sure dinner. Yeah, no, no, I didn't. Far from us, in fact. Now, I do. I didn't
notice that, and I like the direction where in which it's gone, and I hope he continues it. It was a
bit like, you know, the HBR community news. You have, you're essentially talking about the
shows as well, and if there's a few people up, then you can get a bit of a conversation going
on as well. So, a lot less dry. Yeah. So, part of the programming, one of one series, why C++,
virtual again, with the C++ programming language, and why you should use it. Yeah, I don't have
a lot to say, because I'm not a programmer. I got, I got a lot from this to be honest. I did,
I don't think I'll be running out and start programming C++, but this is a nice, like,
foundation storm, or a little bit background to the language. You don't feel as nervous
going into it. It had me, I listened to the show when I was doing a little bit of googling,
and like, now and a half later, I was going, okay, I got to stop now. I was, I have
pointed hard enough and pearl like so, but this is pretty cool. The next day, we had Andrew
Conway with a steam and wine with the Linux, how to coax windows on the steam game to work
on the steam with the good news, slash it and the looks. Yeah, I like that, because I'm a,
I do enjoy the occasional game, and then I do have steam running on my coupon two box,
and I've got a number of Linux games, but it was sort of interesting to think, okay, I wonder if
I can get some of my older games that are windows only to run this way. I mean, look,
oh, I, I can talk to you in the sense. Yeah. And the following day, more financial functions
with Mr. Houga. Indeed, more YouTube payment schedules is depressing that I need that one,
but yes. Well, that was, you know, I was asked to do something about that by Poki way back.
Well, when I first started some, it's like a year and a half ago, he sent me an email saying,
boy, it'd be really nice to have this. So I, I saved the email and decided this was a good way to
work all of that in and show people how it's done. You know, it, it's one of those things that a lot
of people probably have a use for, and that's the main thing here. I can't document every single
feature of Libra office or, you know, the series would run into the next century. But if it's
something that I think a lot of people be interested in, I want to try and work it in.
No, absolutely. So the following day, we had a musing by glad to about the word hack.
And I, I liked this show in general, but I did have the, I think you've been a bit
precious with the word hack. I mean, what does it matter? And if somebody thinks
to the hacker, all the better, then send in a show or your phone to hack, then send in a show.
Yes, I understand that if you have a hack, then it's a, that you didn't do yourself with
somebody else's hack, but it's still hack. But again, I guess that was his point also.
Indeed. So love this one's first time, first time, HPR host guides to EVA utility or EVA
from spacewalk. And this is exactly, this is a, I am this person in the cinema.
And it's actually, there was a, in 2001, they had a, had a trick where, you know, he goes from
the pardon to the, he throws himself into the airlock. And in the new version of,
or the battle start galactic, it did a very similar thing. And there were a loss,
worse off, although it was about the same amount of time. And I'll wonder if he's doing it another show,
which of those two scenes would have been more accurate.
From what I've read, you know, you do have a minute or two before real serious problems
start to happen. Yeah, that's, that's what I thought a lot, but now you've blown the show,
he doesn't need to send it. Yes, he still needs to send it. He may not agree.
Good. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Yeah, you can stay out for ages. Not a problem.
Yeah, have a smoke cigar, you're in regret. You're the following day. We had you with, I don't
know if it's the following day. I should put in one to choose your weapons to hear, but anyways,
you had privacy and security. And, yeah, well, yeah, you know, the, the, we started off with
a lot of stuff about email encryption, but, you know, there's always so much you can say about that.
So it seemed like it was time to move into some of the other areas.
And I'm sorry, so there's the assaulting hashing quite good. And why you should, you have
the whole, the whole here's how it works. Very, very clear. Nice. I liked it.
Didn't have any comments normally with your shoulders. I deliberately try and find something
just to annoy you. But, no, I think nothing doesn't annoy me in that way. Here's one that I was
trying to organize for a long time with the Inmerit Steiner from the Mary TTS project for
on the review, who heard us, was a developer of the Texas P-Change. And I really enjoyed doing this
interview, which essentially consisted of me just shut up and let somebody who's far more
learned that myself talk. And I loved this interview, and I really hope you'll have
Inmerback on, because it's, it's, we tend to think about, okay, this is very necessary for
people who have visual impairments. And it is. But, you know, I really think this is the way,
at some point, we're all going to be interacting with computers. And, you know, these people are
creating the future for us. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I just heard that a
accessible computer will be there. I'll try that again. I just heard that the accessible computing
Foundation have moved away from Mary TTS because of its, it's for print was quite large,
which I think we should have Jonathan Nidu on to tell us about that. Yeah, he may well have his
reasons, but yeah, I'd like to definitely like to hear them, but regardless, I think it's an
interesting system. And then we had the ZFS, which most BST people rave and rant about.
Yeah, but I'd like to them. So, it seems to do a very, very good job, but although not for
small systems, I don't understand. Yeah, I'm not running BSD, so it doesn't look like I'm
going to have any chance to try it soon. Well, you can, you can scroll up. I'm Linux as
all those are, there's a way to do that. Anyway, glad to introduce you, well, web developers
to Lambe. Kind of a nice little episode again, but glad to, through you, and do appreciate those.
We do indeed. I always love hearing from Claude too. I also subscribe to his
good-o-world order broadcast. Yes, he doesn't. Yeah, and I think you take stuff for granted
that people would know how to do this. So, I think, obviously, he's had the reason where I
kind of imagine anyone paying or paying somebody else or downloading a setup, a lamp stack,
easy utility when it is actually as easy as he makes it. Indeed. Then we had another
open source news break. This time, data-driven journalism, open source password management,
and open electronics. Good stuff, a lot of good stuff there. Very much. And new hosts to be frank,
which I love the name, and how the handle is absolutely brilliant. Get this to speak to
Matthew Gareth, Matthew Gareth, and a nice piece of editing. Very professionally done.
Very impressed with this as the first time episode has to be said. Yeah, and Matthew Gareth's
one of those people that I want to hear from. I really, you know, like being able to hear what he
had to say. Absolutely, got a chance to listen to one of his talks way back when he was a
one. He was a lad. Another, another person that is way above my head. So, the following day,
we had a new host, Gulfur. Is it Gulfur? Of course, Gulfur. Yes. And this is his required, how I got
into Linux episode from zero to one. Cool stuff. Yep, and we're always welcoming a new host.
We love to hear from these people. We have plenty of slots for anyone who wants to record a show.
Oh, yes, we do more about that. And then following day, the script is just statistics on how we can
make basic measurements about a population. And I was thinking about this. Yeah, I did a lot of this
stuff when I was back when I was an actual engineer. And I was taking to myself, you know,
I lost, this is a prime example of the HPRF. So it's where a lot of people are just going to go
a little flat out of the way. What is going to be about one person sometime, you know, the night before
a, an exam. And we'll download this episode and we'll get down on his or her knees and thank the
gods for the introduction. Yeah. Well, I must admit, it was this one in the one after it where I
talk about inferential statistics. It, it may be a little indulgent on my part because I used to teach
statistics. I actually enjoy this kind of thing. And some people may remember episode. I did some
months back about how to understand polls where I brought in this statistics behind the public opinion
polling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that episode. So feel free to do this yourself.
As an orphan as you're like, but I think the main thing I wanted to get across here is that for a lot
of the stuff that you, that where you might want to use statistics, Libra office Calc is all you need.
You know, I remember when when I first started teaching this stuff, I had to buy a statistical
package and use that to teach. And I, I wouldn't have to do that now. I could just take Libra
office Calc in there and it's got everything I need. Yeah, things have come on. Things have come on
a lot as I've lost my time on one moment. So I hope you're going to do more of these. You should
definitely, uh, don't be anyone on anyone be afraid about indulging their own passions and age
growth because a guarantee either people interested in them. So keep these ones coming, please.
Oh, yeah. And there's, well, I think I've got about six more episodes in Calc that I have written.
I just need to record. Um, but I'm not sure my voice would hold out very well right now.
So maybe next weekend. Yeah, I keep in common because you're, uh, supplying the back
bowl of stuff that keeps the, the network. I don't forget that. Yeah. And then, um, I've already
pulling together material to swing into, uh, impress, which is the slide deck, uh, uh,
a cool program. Okay. The following day, we had how to be in C top,
plateau talks about how to get V and C up and running. Um, and during this episode,
plateau mentions that V and C is secure. It is not. It is not a secure method to connect to other
systems at all. They protocol itself is not secure and it is not secure by virtue of the fact that
it is, um, it only uses a username and not a password and better yes, not a client, uh,
that shared keys like SSH does. So if you are doing connections on V and C, you must and should
run it over a SSH or a VPN connection. Yeah. And, you know, to be the takeaway there is just the
security is really hard. I don't think people always appreciate just, uh, you know, you look at
stuff like, uh, we just had the, the whole shell shock thing of, uh, various vulnerabilities and
bash that have been there for 20 years, you know, uh, because no one happened to think about it.
Yeah. Exactly. And the times changed, I don't think people expected it to be used as as far as
it has, but a V and C, their excuse was that it was on the local network and they always said that
you should, uh, secure tunnel. Your secure, send it over a secure tunnel. Now there are some
versions that do use encryption, um, then 10, but I always send it to your secure tunnel. I think
that too was sending it over a secure tunnel. He was doing tunneling in the SSH port and coming
up the local host. In which case the attack factor is very, very much minimized. So if you
configure it that way, then yes, it is secure. But otherwise, if you're just connecting to have
a through listening on the public port and then connect via that, then it's susceptible to a group
force attack. And, uh, frankly, you know, he's usually pretty smart about all this stuff. So
it, it's quite possible that in the back of his mind, he knew that's how he was doing it and he just
didn't explicitly say that. Yeah. Okay. But we warned. We warned migrating from two full tunnel
Nikola. Nikola. Nikola. This is this is cool. This is a nice, uh, a nice short thing with the
scripts available publicly, very, very cool. Yeah. Short sweet to the point, I think. Oh,
absolutely. And that was the last one for this month as it happened. So pretty cool all around.
Yeah. We, uh, we're quite a bit of comments going on this one this month. And it started with,
an episode, a comment on an episode from last, um, from last December, actually,
the 13th, the 13th of the 12th. And it was related to, um, how we use Linux and it was
Korean, given comments about, um, Caldab for Android and such, that's pretty cool.
Then we had a comment on episode 14, 15th, which was free culture and open source
automation by CT, which is also back in September 2014, the 9th, actually. And Siphon, S
Yn, FI, I was glad to commenting that. Siphon, Siphon, Siphon, Siphon, that's yeah. Anyway, this is,
this is why I also have this actually. Anyway, that's is a 2D animation program, which is
pretty cool. And glad to set me a little tutorial that a friend of his did on one of the magazines,
uh, sent me a link to us. So, um, if you happen to come across that, it's absolutely excellent.
Then we had a comments to my episode, or sorry, not my episode, but the many, many, many,
too many data relationships by Mike Ray, 1569. And we get into a, um, discussion about
how to deal with tags. And to be honest, I'm not overly impressed with the answers really,
because, um, they're very complicated. And I don't like, I don't like publications. Unfortunately.
And stuck in there, I don't know if he got it. There was a comment by Borgoo, as well,
which I must say, I did kind of agree with it. I don't like to be negative about shows, but
believe me, this is bad. I didn't hear that, he's like, comment about that. So, if Mike wants to
address that, he can always do that as well. There was the whole topic, mostly went over my head.
I'm not a DBA. Yeah, and I don't think I will ever be, um, the, Mike Conway got a, a quick,
a shout out of, thank you for beginners guide to the nice guy. And I can't stress enough how
chuffed you feel as, as a, as a podcaster when somebody just drops in email, even if it's a
one-liner or send you a thing on Skype, or, or not Skype, but Twitter or, uh, puts a comment
on the episode just a little bit of feedback. Somebody out there is this thing, one of the thousands
of people who download those show, listen to the show a lot of what's cool. That makes out a little
more fun. Oh, absolutely. I've, I've gotten some wonderful email responses. There, actually,
it is, it is the currency of which podcaster survive, it has to be said. Then we had a, uh, two,
small comments relating to, they, um, down and out in the magic kingdom, um, her rectus spelling
of Kissimmy, Kissimmy. Kissimmy? Yep. And we had 5150 with a link to the haunted mansion for, say,
but it is said. For side, I believe. So, uh, comment on the XFS file system, um, we had Jonathan talking
about, uh, why Daniel Robbins, creator of Gen 2, recommends it. So, when you're reading that,
feedback on the ultimate cooking device, um, was left by more disordancy. The best
G-player found a nice charcoal, and my charcoal in Chimney has been to use either a newspaper
or paper of towels. Yeah, that's, uh, I've used watered up newspaper myself. I've used petrol.
Yep. And then, uh, comments from Johan V, um, about the episode on, um, Gorgiole's episode on
C++ programming and, uh, saying how useful some of the stuff was. And the wine and learning
episode, lots of comments. Your NP-free like you do, and Andrew Conway all commented, uh, relating to, uh, ways to introduce kids to Linux,
and recommend, uh, your NP recommends, uh, do do Linux, which for some reason the link, uh,
you need to fix the link on that. Um, there's an open spades all turned off by free as in Gidoo,
and gives you a link to that. And Andrew, uh, Conway is, uh, just, uh, give some comments back on that episode.
We had, uh, on Cloud2's episode about hacking. We had, uh, me making the point that, uh, here on
Hacker public radio, I've been exposed a little bit more than most to the general mass media's
interpretation of the name Hacker. So to me, I'm more than happy that, uh, if somebody, you know,
puts, uh, a paper clip for the pieces of tape on the wall and thinks it's useful and thinks they're
a hacker. That to me is all of that or because it reinforces more of the, the other end of the
scale as opposed to the evil bad nasty people. And then also I had Michael coming in with a comment,
sorry, I got you off. Go ahead. I, uh, yeah, I, to me, a hacker is just someone who wants to get the job
done and we'll use whatever is handy to get it done. Absolutely. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, absolutely.
But my issue is for all the people's interpretation of that is, uh, is, is it better that people
think that they are a hacker? Is it better that the public thinks a hacker is somebody who's evil?
And, uh, will essentially, is the cracker aspect or do they think it's some lame cheap way to do
something, you know, two ends of the extreme, two ends of the scale. And I think we're so far, the side,
the root, so far down the end of the scale to the cracker end that it's no harm to bring it a little
bit closer and make more accessible to people. Then we had two comments on your episode,
uh, one was by gig Sphere and, uh, it's helped his understanding particularly talk about
salted hashes and hashing algorithms, can't say more than that, really. The whole point of the episode,
I think. That's what I was trying to do. Then we had some comments on the Ingmar Steiner interview,
uh, which, uh, lots of people then, then we do. Did you, uh, did you listen to that episode,
the whole way through to the other voices at the end? I did indeed. And, uh, sorry,
what? Some of them sound a little bit better than the voice that is doing the, uh,
automated summaries on HPR. I wondered if you were thinking about using some of that. Well,
funny, you should mention that. Yes, just as soon as a Java program work and come out of the
woodwork and download the simple application that Ingmar was talking about and, uh, make it so that
I can use the same function that I'll see as easy, but with, uh, using Mary TTS, please,
somebody get in touch with me. I'm sure if a Java program record do this, do it in 20 minutes.
Then we can put that up on their website fixes on their wiki and then have something
like that available for people to download. And ideally, if we get it into, um, the rebels as
well, so that it's, it's a wrapper for Mary TTS. It would install and you could go, I don't know,
Mary speak, blah, echo something into Mary speak and then it comes out on a welfare. Like, yeah,
just, and then dash V, like, the eSpeak languages that you can pick the voice and, uh,
Bob Jones for Meggera and Tom's your first cousin. Yep. So, volunteer is please step forward.
This will, of course, uh, relieve you of your one show, one contribution a year,
especially after you record a show telling us how you do this.
Ha ha ha ha. But a lot of people express an interest into that and, uh, yep,
keep it coming. How to install the lamp. We had, um, T-C-U-C, T-C, how would you read that?
T-C-U-C, I think. I do. You mentioned you'd like to have more stuff on virtual machines,
testing software and server applications. At the point, plateau is going to, um,
record something about that, which is actually brilliantly. So, uh, keep a bugging
hosts for all that was a brilliant episode. But, uh, did you think of this? So, that way,
I will get more shows and, and then when I get new shows and you get more shows and,
and then, uh, we had, uh, Christopher and Hobbs, giving a high five to, um,
buffer on it is episode. So, that was the comments for this month.
Good month for comments. Yeah, not bad at all at all. They're all available if you press
the letter P on the main website. So, speaking of other things, we had, um, on the news,
I had the fantastic idea of doing live stream from upcoming events based on, uh,
did a talk about this last month, based on, uh, a sign the on-air sign type thing?
I, I don't remember that. So, uh, yeah, basically a wine bottle, um,
holder with a non-air sign just put a light in sizes and then start recording and then I was thinking,
yeah, perhaps we can, uh, we can stream and stuff from, from events. So, I have, uh,
not had a lot of time to do a lot of stuff this month, but the discussion on that was interesting
and continued and how we would do it and the people were going to, or a person. Then, um, we
had Dave Morris with the sad news that they weren't going to be able to have an old campaign table
and then, uh, Rebecca and Philip, uh, Cornel, no, Ubera and Philip, Cornel, no, no,
come forward and rally the troops and as we speak in the balls of Oxford in the UK,
there is a HR table currently manned by four strapping young men and the picture of those
will be in the show. Good, I look forward to hearing your shows. Yeah, so do I, they've got, uh,
Philip, um, while we talk about the next month, but he already has done some excellent interviews
at the Lincoln look and he's got a new zoom recorder so I don't think anyone is safe. Um, so I put
out the call for Fasten 2015, the people were going to go, would they be interested in doing a table
and the thing about Fasten is that you really do need somebody there. They say two people minimum
on the table, 24, seven are, you know, for the entire show and really you do need that because there's
so many people going through even when it's quiet and in other events, there are so many people
there that they can't get into the talks so then they go around to the, to the Vanderbilt or to the boots.
So you really need their people to be around at all times. So, um, nobody has basically very few
people events that call not enough to be able to support that. So what I'm thinking of doing now is,
um, contacting other podcasters and not only in Europe, but mainly around Europe, around the
world because I was thinking then of doing a fast podcasting boot. So just to promote other
shows and all the basic shows on the links linked up net and the other shows that are in
Dave and I use a little tool for checking podcas. And it would be great then if we could have some of
other shows listeners or hosts available for particular periods of time at the table, then
it's worth it just be a hate for our table, it would be podcasting in general and we could maybe
make the work, but do you think of that as an idea? I like it, thinking outside the box a little bit here.
There you go. Then we had an alpha geeks podcast and you podcast that's uh, I, that was mentioned
in episode 1591 and some questions, uh, mobile recording devices and uh, people have zoom or
recommended zoom's and he Dave Morris has a son has a task come DR 07 Mark II should probably put
a few of these up on the website, actually. Yeah, that's always good to have that information available.
And of course the old standby, I did one with a sense of clip that uh, I just detached my car.
You would be amazed at how many of the interviews that I've done that have ended up coming
from a son's of clip, which was my comment on this thing is just record whatever you have.
No, uh, any recording is better than normal recording. If you've got a camera with you record a
video and we can extract the audio if you've got a phone on you just record on the phone if you
don't have that, then dial the HPR a number and press record. Yes, it's going to cost you a
hypothesis. Um, yeah, and go get on to mobile if you've got an internet connection
and uh, sunset clip basically everything and anything. It's like they digital clock virtually
everything that has a speaker and a microphone and it can now record audio. So gases don't be too
worried about if you've got a brilliant recorder, users, you don't use what you have. Yep.
So then I had the very depressing news that it's been 25 days since anyone uploaded a show
and thankfully we're out of the, out of the black for next week, which is, you know, scary.
And the discussion was more centering on and was more centering on how do we solve this,
shark tutet? Um, we get it. We have no shows. We make call for shows. People send in shows.
There's a big bunch. Then people relax a lot and then we don't have any shows coming in again
and then we put a call out for shows. So how you do it is you record shows in a bunch and then you
space them out over time, which I think is a brilliant idea. Um, and I'd like people to start
doing that more than the dumping shows. I'd like to have two weeks in the queue, which we don't
have right now, but um, there are lots of guys going to outcamp, so I'm not that concerned about
of we'll be able to fill up a week that you hear this is, has just been filled by my bill and
insists is secus. And then after that we, you can expect some odd camp episodes. But I'd like
people to just, you know, put it in your calendar, put a recurring appointment. If you, if you think
you can do one show a year, then put a recurring appointment, then do, you know, one show a year
in your birthday or something. And if you can, if you have a new year's resolution, you want to do more
than that, then put in a recurring appointment in your calendar and uh, you don't have to stick to it
obviously. But uh, be nice to get them in. You can always, you know, sit down record and I'll
watch your shows in a, a month ago and then space mouse over time. It's a, you know, we like to
space mouse over two week period because if you, you know, you could theoretically put all your
shows out and one, once after the other because scheduling is now done by the people who upload
the shows, you go to the calendar page, you pick the date you want and you, you put them in.
But uh, a hooker, you just record your shows and you pick the dates that you want.
Yeah. And the way this, uh, the way that I had done this, I, it, it started with the Libra
Office series and, uh, I thought, well, I, I could crank out one of those about every two weeks.
Uh, and I, and I've pretty much stuck to that, uh, except when something comes along, like
I know in January, there's going to be this gap because the New Year's shows are just going to run
for like two weeks by themselves. Uh, and it was just fine. I have no problem with that.
Uh, and then the security and privacy thing, um, which I know that one was started by you,
Ken, because we were doing the community news and you said, I, yeah, I really need someone to tackle
this. And I was like, well, I guess if no one else gets to it, I will. Absolutely. Yeah. Uh,
and no one else got to it. So I did and what I did is I made a commitment that I would get out
a show once a month. Uh, so to me, the, the thing that I, I think helps is to make a commitment
and, you know, do it on whatever schedule works for you. Um, so this has worked reasonably well for
me. Now, I'm doing a lot more shows than most people. Uh, but it, it's stuff that I'm really interested
in doing. So that's not really a problem. Uh, if, if you can only do like you say one show a year or
once a quarter or whatever it is, make the commitment and just start doing it. Um, and I think
very often a good way to do it is to, you know, pick a big topic that you really like and then just
break it down into small pieces. Absolutely. Um, and that's, that's very much what I've done,
you know, leave our office is a huge thing, but I just take a little piece of it every two weeks
and say, all right, I'm going to spend 15 minutes looking at this little piece. Um, and I think I
probably 15 or 20 minutes on average for those shows. The thing to remember though, uh, well, one
point about that is you're making the commitment to yourself. I don't need to know about your plans
to make shows. Uh, and to the reason I don't need to know is I, I hear a lot of, I get a lot of
things in from people going, I'm going to record the show. I'll have a two and a week and then
in a week or two, somebody else, you know, they're really, really email me going, oh, I got
delayed and so the show is not coming to come in. Uh, you know, I have this saying a show is
in the show until it's a show and it's a show when it gets uploaded to the FTP server. I
life gets in your way. Sometimes I have a whole go of shows that are ready to be edited. They're
not as, yes, when I get time, we'll be at it. Uh, when we need them, we'll be there. So make
the commitment to yourself and just send them in. But, uh, yep, that's pretty much it. And if you
don't like hearing a hookah or anyone else on the network, the absolute best way guarantee to get
them off the network is to record more shows and get your friends to record more shows and then
there will be no slots, uh, no slots available for a hookah or any of us. That's right, I can't
program anything unless there's blank slots there. There you go. And I think a lot of the stuff
with HPR is, um, you ask the question and everybody takes one step back. So you end up doing
a, that's pretty much how I, how I ended up, um, doing the community news and the administration
and that sort of stuff. So, you know, it didn't, it didn't emphasize it. No, it isn't. And the thing
that, uh, if it's holding anyone back, you might think, well, I'm interested in this, but who else is?
And, uh, you know, on paper, why would anyone want a series on Libra office? But I can tell you,
I've gotten great feedback from it. Um, there are a lot of people. And I mean, what's our average
download now, can 3000 to show something like that? Yes. Um, and, you know, and I keep getting
comments from people. Um, and you know, sometimes, I mean, I got an email from Allison Shaken
who I respect immensely, thanking me for one of my shows and it's like, oh, well, that's cool
because, you know, a couple of months ago in Linux format, I read this long interview with her.
So, oh, that's cool. Um, yeah, I mean, she's really big into the automotive, uh, software
and stuff like that. Um, and, you know, I sort of knew about her and it was like, oh, she liked
one of my shows. Um, and I get lots of comments from people, um, you know, sometimes it's email,
sometimes it's comments on the HDR sites, sometimes it's on Google+. Because that's where I tend to
hang out. Um, so I know there's people out there doing it that are, you know, listening to these
shows and enjoying it. Um, so, you know, even if you don't think there's a huge audience, you might
be surprised. Uh, I can guarantee you actually will be so. Okay, back to the, um, because if you ask
me, it does no point to ask me if somebody's going to be interested in because I am interested in
in these shows. There has to be literally there has not been a show on HDR that I have not
listened and tend to and that I've not enjoyed on some level. Um, uh, some of them, especially when
people are trying to, uh, to stretch the definition of what's interest to hackers that gets me
definitely interested. So, um, just a quick note here from Patrick Daley, the next, uh, which is
Poki to you and they, the next HDR audio book club we recorded on the 14th of October at 7 p.m.
Central U.S. times, 7 p.m. Central U.S. time. And the book is the call of some word that I can
pronounce by pH Lovecraft. The call of Holon and Pistis into the, uh, chat for you. Okay,
maybe you can read it for me. I would call it Katulu. Uh, it's HP Lovecraft. It's a real classic
in the horror genre. I was reading this. Okay, but it really, you know, uh, lovecraft, um, have
you read this one? Um, I've read some of his. I, um, I don't know if I've read all of that, but, um,
you know, this, the, the award that is given to fantasy writers, um, is called The Lovecraft
Award. So, tell you something right there. Yeah. Not a big fan of the whole horror genre. I have
to admit, I get too drawn in, um, then, uh, yes, a big security curtain. Or can I say? Um, 5150,
wrote in to say the intro and outro clips. What is the word on the intro and outro clips? And I,
like, a smarter get that I am, replied that everything is fine for me when an actual fact,
uh, I think was in my bill to took the liberty of pointing out that no things were not right.
Since the server moved, um, file based browsing. So, you know, going to a directory that doesn't
have an index dust, whatever. Um, it requires, you can't just browse, open down the directory and
I was using that. So, I fixed that and my humble apologies goes to 5150 for, um, my complacent
attitude towards his book reports. You mean we weren't supposed to be browsing through all the files?
Well, I thought it was a useful feature. My point of view with, uh, with HBR is there's nothing on
the website that is, that isn't public, you know, well, I mean, you probably don't want, uh,
yet the web server, the web server, you don't want to use for spam or whatever, but, uh, so,
uh, it was fine, but, um, Josh is, uh, with an honest host.com has different views on the world and
I'm very glad to have them because I feel a lot safer, uh, as well. So, uh, that was a pretty cool move.
Did you? Well, hello? Hello? Yeah, I used to learn. Okay, um, but there has been a few
questions about the new theme music and we have updated the theme and they just give you a quick summary again.
The intro and outro are now two separate files that don't contain any, um, mentions from anyone.
So, if you have the intro and outro, now the idea is that if there's a change of sponsor,
or if you want to change the sponsor message for any reason, that we don't need to read,
just to read that to all our hosts, you can continue to use the same one. It's unlikely that
we've had any new text and if we do, it's not the end of the world, we just wait for them to
close to the system. Basically, it's me being lazy. I don't want to have to read down
all the shows, edit everything and re-opload them again. So, that's pretty much the,
the purpose for having that. So, the shows are now made out of six different parts, five required.
The first one is thanking the hosting provider, which will be mentioned to anonymous hosts
to come for those that are on the HCR website, or archive.org for those that are going over there.
You don't need to have those that will be added automatically. The show summary is taken from
say.bhb on the HCR website, and it is, you know, it's that speaking voice that says it is,
blah, blah, blah, today's show is on title, blah, blah, the duration is. Have you, have you been
enjoying that or not? Has it been useful to you? You know, it doesn't do anything for me,
particularly, but you know, I'm not opposed to it. I must say I get up in the morning
and I'm walking down at 6 a.m. down to the train station, and it's good to know what day it is.
Okay, so that's a different set of problems again. There you go. And then we have
they, so that will be added mostly automatically by the, by the, by the server, you can choose to add
it if you wish. But you have to kind of stick to the template. And then we have the HCR
intro music, which you can download. If you choose not to put that in, that's fine. If you choose
to put it in, that's also fine. The show is the most important thing. Is the one that you need to
do? Long as you like, any topic of the video like the audio quality doesn't have to be brilliant,
but it does have to be audible and of interest hackers and not spam basically.
Then the outro music can be downloaded. If you have your own outro music can do it, and the text
must be according to what's been agreed, and that's on the back. Yeah, that's written there as well.
And then we have the epilogue for people whose names begin with and Pokemon.
So the last few that I recorded and uploaded, I just uploaded the show itself. I didn't
tack anything onto it. It sort of, it sounded like, well, we're still changing things, and it was like
fine, put anything on it you want. Yeah, that makes it a lot easier for me. What I probably
will do is try to get sucks to do a little bit of fade over so that, you know, the intro is
fading down and they show itself and starting up because a lot of people like that has. So
it's a little bit subtler. So I'll try and work on that. But it is my preference that people just
upload the shows because it makes it a lot cleaner all around. Yeah. Well, we're at 58 minutes.
I don't know what is going to be even our trunks hate silence, but I don't have anything much else
to say except I'm getting lots of tweets from people who are a camp and I hate you all. I hate
you all. Well, that's not very nice. Well, it is sort of very friendly sort of way obviously.
So I'm really annoyed I couldn't get over to that. I'm going to add a little
announcement here because I've got this platform and why not. And that is the, the, the
con that I'm involved with now, Penguin Con. Our call for talks is now open. So if you go to
PenguinCon.org, you can submit something. You know, you kind of have to be in the general area
of the Midwestern United States for this to make sense, but just trying to get the word out to
people that we're looking for. And I, I, I handle all of the technology track. So if you, if you
send me anything halfway decent looking as a proposal, there's a very good chance I'm going to accept it.
Do you want to do a separate interview on that? Yes. Yeah, we can do that. Or I can just record something.
How do you do it? How do you do it? How do you do it?
Other veterans in a bit later tonight need to spend some quality time with my life.
Okay, fine. I'll record something and get that up to you probably in the next couple of days.
Will we be having a, will we hit PR? If you're having a table presence at that convention?
Or do do tables? I cannot staff the table because I'm running this technology track.
I don't know who from the HPR community is thinking of coming to this. So at the moment, I'm not a
worse person. Are there tables? Yeah, there are tables. And would HPR fit into your type of
tables? It would be slightly different. I don't mind being slightly different. The thing about
PenguinCon that you want to bear in mind is it's both science fiction and technology.
So people who might be, you might be right next to someone doing geek jewelry or, you know, someone
selling books or whatever. It sounds like my credit, my kind of crowd. Yes, very much.
Anybody going? Give us a shout please and we'll see that the boot kit gets to you and that
you have everything that you need to make it a fantastic event. Yeah, and I'll get that show out to you
in the next few days. Okay, cool. Well, you know what to do? Just upload it to the thingy and
oh, I do it too. So there and then I don't need to thank you, which is always always good thing.
I don't think it is. Join us now and share the soccer folks. You'll be free, have you? You'll be free.
By the way, did you notice that one of those voices was an RMS voice? No, I didn't. They've deliberately
they made a RMS voice. It doesn't sound how bad actually. Yeah, you're referring to the one that
was pasted in and all of the new year shows. Yeah, that's the one. If you by the way, if people have
preferences for one of those voices, do drop me a line about it and don't forget, I am looking
for a java. Somebody who has done any java at all. I don't think it's very difficult from what he says.
So somebody has done any java at all. Could you give us a shout and see how we can make that
Mary say anything. Okay, tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode of Hacker Public Radio.
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