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Hi everybody, this is HPR Public Radio. Welcome to our show and it's our show because
it's me, Dave Morris and Mr. X. We're doing another one of our get-together and we chat some stuff like
what do you see which is your car? Yeah, yeah, it's really, they're acoustic, it's fantastic. One
of the things about when we meet up, we've discovered is we've got tons to talk about, but we're going
to have breakfast or sit inside somewhere in a good noise environment and have a chat and we've been
doing that for the past what cup is it in there a couple hours now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, about half
ten we may have run a completely different thing. And now we come out here to record something
and we're going to talk about it. So it's a pity we could have sort of an astilted model
to recap all the things we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know how to do it,
remember anything? I know, this is it, exactly. So what have you got anything, well I know you
have because you've got a bit of paper down there, which is more efficient than you were in
the last case. I did, I came with, I was at a meeting and I was supplied this whole,
lots of radio meeting actually and I was applied this sort of big woolly sock. And so there you go,
I've got Hicks and Nessons, that one people really sock and sort of manipulate this lump came
at the end of it. And it, well it's not often that there's a keyboard on our screen and it was a
Gemini PDA, which of course is the sort of modern version of the Saiyan 5C or something, isn't it?
Yeah, that's right. It was the later generation. Yeah, yeah, it was really quite as it was to get it to me.
Yeah, I think it can all Android and a special version of Android, I don't think it can run
special version of Linux as well, but I think it can on Debian and via other things as well actually,
but I did think about it, you know, but me being a canny stroke means Scott,
and there's nothing more about that. So it would be an interesting novelty,
but whether you'd want to part with real real cash for them, if it's expensive at the time, yeah,
yeah, that's it. So it's a, in that era of PDAs and stuff like that,
it, everybody, everybody who was anybody had. Of course,
just thinking that maybe our American audience might not know what Saiyan is, I don't know.
It's a sort of clamshell PDA type of thing, wasn't it? It was, it was kind of similar to the
Microsoft Windows CE thing, you know, that Bill Gates wrote a thing in his email saying,
and an email saying that it cited Saiyan as being the biggest threat to Microsoft,
just a tiny bit as company that he thought was going to crush Microsoft,
I might suggest that the opposite hand as you can imagine that Saiyan isn't available today,
it's said he got crushed usually, but yeah, I mean, I've still got a Saiyan 3C,
and it sits next to my bed and it makes a great alarm clock.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's
those are some great things. There was a whole range of devices,
wouldn't them, don't you? The keyboard, really, it was a sort of hell,
well, things look like a phone money, should see that. It's actually,
if anyone watched the hit checker's guy to the galaxy,
it used to pull out the, don't panic think from the hit checker's side-gave.
It looked very much like a Saiyan in the sight of the first Saiyan to do with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The use that for data logging in real house years and such, like,
And I had about an Atari portfolio back in the day, and it ran an early-thersing
a dose, and it was almost a lot of money at the time, and I filled the database with
entries with phone numbers, and all that took me a long time to type it over these numbers.
And I had it because it would make cash.
I lost all the entries, so did the same thing a second time, and it would make cash
a second that was bad.
I sold that, and it was a lot of money, and I think on eBay, it was a sign to which by that
point was really old hat.
It didn't even have a quarter keyboard, it was like ABCDE, you know, and rose, and it was
like square dot matrix you can display as a very rubbishy display in all that, and
I didn't expect very much of it, and this is going to be rubbish, you know, and I got it.
And I discovered, yeah, okay, this plays rubbish, it doesn't have as much memory, it's
a slow processor, but it's being very carefully crafted in design, and never a crash, never
ever crashed, it's stored huge amounts of information, it just worked flawlessly, it's
definitely been buying something that it's all gimmicky, and it looks apart, and it ends
up in rubbish, because this thing which just makes rubbish, but it's actually a good
thing.
And the bigger signs were the same map, my sign 3C, until recently, I don't know if you're
so gold, what basically happened was the component specifications I think in the device
drifted, and now the backup battery is reported as being flat all the time, so what happens
is when the main battery fails, the sign and then lose all of its information, but prior
to that point in time, the sign hasn't had never ever crashed, so I don't know, 10 plus
years, I don't know, I've never even did never crashed, never lost a single byte of information,
how many computers can you say that's a case?
So, yeah, cleverly designed, and a bit earlier, I've had the window see machine, that
would not be the case, but people don't have one, I don't know, but there you go, yeah,
there's a lot of mileage in looking back at some of those bits of kit, I was just remembering
as you were saying that there was a guy at work years ago now who had one of these small
handheld devices, kind of remember what it was, but it didn't have a keyboard, although
there was an accessory you could buy for it, where you effectively stood it on the keyboard
or in front of it, and you could write things on this, it had a screen, you had to write
a phone, funny little scripting now, I don't call that, I don't know how, I don't know,
I'll tell you, remember it, because I had a server called a compact iPad, and ever
till I say iPad, you all think I'm talking about a PDA, and it's an iPad, that's for
it is, but it also did a mini-7, that was a bit like a fan heater, and it's a set
of modern, and I used that as my whole server, but not as an iPad PDA, but yeah, there's
an installation, you wrote, yeah, and there was, there were, you could represent whole
words with some, you could learn some symbols, symbols, yeah, so you could actually write
quite quickly with this, in a strange, hard way, yeah, remember it was nice to research
that one of those, I never had one, but I was always jealous of this guy, Paul, and he used
to go and take meeting minutes, wow, that's a pleasure, you know, you don't
need to take minutes, sorry, and Collins doing it, hey Collins, great cakes, which is
the red wheel, what that looks like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice, Really good
good stuff, remember this one, Matt? So, the topic number two, okay, well that has
done for the last few moments, I found that difficulty was a Dacer dereasently, and I
said, you certain I've been to Şnabs, of course, this, near a recidaser no, that's
newer version of Ubuntu, was it used Snaps? You get the very latest version of Audacity.
Obviously it takes a bit of time to switch on when you click the icon.
Obviously Snaps doing it is thing before it powers up.
But I think what's happening is, and I haven't looked into it, because I haven't got the
time, and I'm too lazy. So I've just, in fact, the other day I was recording an episode, which
are completely mocked up bit by the bay, and I found it clicking right when it didn't launch
audacity at all, no matter how long I waited, and I think this had to happen previously,
and I understand that it reinstalled it, and I was actually going to get rid of the Snaps package
and just using it from the repository, because I don't care if it's the latest one.
But I think what's happening is the association with the link changes, and I think what happens is
that the ability to get behind the scenes and the link is not working.
Could it help if I turn on tape audacity, bang it works? So it's not a big deal.
So that's just what I'm going to use the panel.
Yeah, yeah, I run Debbie and Testing, so I'm used to occasionally some package gets an update,
and it's, it destroys. I've lost Calibra at the moment, and it's really frustrating,
because I made e-pop notes for the last show I submitted, and I can't read them.
I can't have a mood to my laptop, but it's just one of those really niggly things.
Yeah, and it's the other one that really got me annoyed this past week or so.
So I used Clementine as my music player.
All right, that's the closest thing is it? No, it came from KDE,
you've definitely got what is it's a clone of? Was it called?
I've got no, because it's gone up my head now. There was a music player on KDE, which Amorock,
it was cool. Amorock, yes, I have time to download it.
Similar, I used to use Amorock all the time, and then they messed it up totally,
and then Clementine came along to fill the gap. So I've stuck with that for the moment,
but it's got this really strange feature. The UI comes up and use it, and then it's the
tend to go to the corner and click the closed button in the in the top corner of the window.
Oh, yeah, and it closes down, but it doesn't. It doesn't close. It's just the UI goes away.
Right. And you end up with a, you still got a little thing in the, in the tray to test to
you know, that's running out. If you go to that and quit it, then it goes away.
When you start it up again, it comes back in the same state, and there's no means of getting
from that little thing in the tray to the UI. The scene, you have to go to the config file, find a line
that says hidden or true, and change it to hidden equals false. And then it comes back on like,
there's no, there's no scene. How did you write that? I think, and I'm not great in quotes.
Amorock, Amorock, has, has done this, because he used to be able to just click on the
thing in the tray, and it would bring up the UI, but I don't know.
Ah, yeah. So, yeah, it's for the frustration.
Very, very good. Ah, that's just, now, you can see that wrap up a little bit.
We've related to that. There was a, I had an issue with them.
They're HD, I, with the jacks, and you know, I've got an intel board, and you know, it
signs a wrong type of device. When you plug it in, it's all, you're plugging your headphones,
and there's no, it's a lot of microphone, you know, it says, ah, it's essentially demanded. So,
then I have package called, is it HDA retask, I think it's called.
Now, it's got a button that says, oh, what is it? I've got some, I've got some,
there's something for you to try it out, but when you try it out, it doesn't work.
It comes up with an error, and I'm going to just keep it, and I've been to things
out of any of the else. And, but you just ignore that, and just say, no, just to actually apply the
fix, and then you reboot it, it works. But at a special age, it's thinking it wasn't working,
and time different options, and you, it, you, I, to time get this to work. And I thought to give
up, and I was going to come back to the next, I think I'm a back to my, I've got a worky page.
And I looked, I've used this package before, and I looked, and I said, don't use the,
don't use the, the tile thing, just apply it in ignore any errors. Ah, I've got it a bit
out of that. It's a, it's a good idea of keeping up with the second sentence.
Yeah, so I do, it's been a lot of it. And what went wrong, what I did to fix it. So next time
it happens, I can, I can go. Absolutely, yes. Restoration. Well, I got, obviously I've got
raspberry and I'm all, well, I suppose, not obviously, but I've got raspberry and I'm all of my
pies, just just bogged standard. Often raspberry and like, because I don't use any, any
UIs or anything, I just just, I think to them all. I think recently I've been using,
I've been late as well, but I've only passed a haven, so yeah, that's a, that's a good, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, when you come to a pie zero, then, of course, of course matters. It's, it's useful to
be able to do that. And I use Ken's technique of downloading the ISO and then hacking it to,
to change the passwords and switch on SSH and all sorts of stuff in the ISO, so I can then
copy it around to various aspects of the idea. Yeah, I think I figured remember that,
there's necks who don't know that, yeah, yeah, so that's a good idea. So that was a very helpful
bit. Yeah, yeah, I was just amazed by it, using your, you've got a,
because you've got that many pies, you're seeing that you've got a thing to, to identify the
configuration of the Earth, the heart, yeah, I've been, I've tied that out, that's very good. Yeah, yeah, what pie I've got
to, yeah, so yeah, yeah, that runs on on everything. I keep everything in a wiki, so I know,
I keep times people at work, I can't work these hours, yeah. That should be a wiki, that's a,
yeah, this is looking me, what, what, what, what, no, I get to explain, I don't know,
what you don't, what you don't, what you don't, what you do, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had an uphill
struggle of doing that, I kept all my stuff in a wiki, which I, which we're relying on one of
the central service. But nobody else wanted to join in with it.
Well, it was funny because they were looking for, it was one of the real occasions where
they actually looking for feedback at work and they said, you know, you're looking for
anything. I say, well, I have a bit of a worky so that people can contribute to it and
oh yeah, that's a good idea. You know, and then somewhere along the lines I was looking
because the management of the plight, the comments that come up basically. And I can't
remember what it was, but somehow around that it walked from my wiki to something completely
different. So they're going to do, ah, kind of what it was, but it's not a wiki. So it's
useless. You can't contribute to it. So it was a completely waste. I think I'm not even
a bother if you're not going to kick it sees it. And what's the point? You know, there's
a crazy thing. But I've seen, there was a council, and one of my relatives, loves in a
West Coast. And I've visited their council's website. They've never got a wiki. It's
fantastic. You've got like, you know, Jimmy, the butchers, and in all these various local
businesses, I've got wee bits. And in any of these special interest groups, they've got
their things and I think, God, you know, a council, that, we've got one of the best
wet council websites that I've come across, rather than these corporate things that are
full of junk, you can't find anything on it. You know, it's, you used some information.
Ah, yes, yes. They're so often scared. People right in rude words or something.
Well, I mean, the thing is, it's all, it's all just checked before it was out. Yeah, that's
it. There's no problem. It's no hard to build a site where you have a sort of
venting stage before. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, no, no, it's very odd. Yeah, but yeah,
it is a media wiki instance on a Raspberry Pi. Yeah, that works fine to me. In fact,
I've got things where I keep stuff in the database. And then I written scripts,
which take a snapshot out of the database, turn it into media wiki.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then send it to the Raspberry Pi. And then runs using SSH,
a PHP script on the Raspberry Pi. Wow. So it will actually insert into the, into the wiki.
Ah, you just said, it means the things that you scrapped at me.
Wow. I don't know, because Dave has telling me that, I don't know if I should be seeing
but, well, anyway, so about your scripted menu choice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't have to be a nice viewer.
I was so impressed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, super. My kids think I'm slightly
insane. Thank you for letting go. Yeah, yeah. But I think I use, I've got a wiki set,
but it's not all I think I've had started with wiki's a different time I would have used
not, and I did contemplate using like me half a little week media wiki in the wiki and
obviously other things as well. But I think because I spent so much time with the first site
that I used and what was it called now? Wiki thought I think it's called. And I think
she was a Polish chap that, and I could get this, like, getting this wrong, but he gave it to
the community for sort of thing to use. And there was no charge, and I think it got bought by a
corporate company or something. And but they allowed the old members to stay free. I think
I might still be free if I'm not sure, but the point of the start, I'm still a wiki dot. And I
think I used, I could all consider the scripts that sort of tried to convey as a user or try,
tried to convert them, the map down from wiki dot to, I think it was media wiki and whatever it was.
And it was feel as successful, but then after to spend loads of time creating these scripts
and converting my text, I never actually used it. So yeah, I've been about a waste of time really,
but I think one day I'll get back to using the media wiki I think, and I'm not going to
have a more on pie rather than. I think I may be wrong, but I think that Pandok, which is a
document convertance, understands media wiki markdown in either input or more in output or both.
But they want to understand wiki dot, I don't want to think. No, no,
the problem is. So that's all right. That's why it's a green with you effectively,
you know, moving to a media wiki. Because I think you could write a bit of markdown stuff
and then generate media wiki stuff as an output. I need to check this to be to be certain,
but I'm pretty certain that maybe wiki markdown markup confusing is one of the options.
So, you know, there's all sorts of possibilities. This is it, yeah, absolutely.
I also use a, I'll use a bunch of, and Raspberry and obviously, and but I also use OSMC,
but open source media. Yeah, I'm not on a pie downstairs, and I'm a plusberry, plusberry,
pie, it's basically a box, and it's got a, I don't know, but it was for the earlier
pie, I think only had two USB sockets. So it's got a powered, kind of hubby thing inside there.
So it gives you four USBs out, and there's a space for a fan, and it also, you can have drive
in it as well, although I never actually did that. I had a plan to do it, but I found it
actually in looking at the external one, because at least that way, unplug it and tick it away.
You put it in the box, it's definitely getting it. So, yeah, but it was quite expensive case,
because it was a limited number that the, you know, was to kick start a tip thing. But, um,
and then of course, I think, I'm not sure if I should, won't support the very latest pie.
Yeah, so that's really that. So I've got a pie 3B, which I was planning to use for media,
but I'm not sure if I can, I probably need to rebuild it, because I don't think the OSMC
that's on now, I wouldn't work on the 3B, and it's a finding a time of regulations. So,
I've got this 3B that I use for harlin's and upstairs. I'm a, you know, it's the most powerful pie.
And I've got it's all that pie running as a media set, but it's the only way that I want to get
time in one of these days. That's always the same, yeah.
That's not a thing, I've got a way from media to, I don't watch TV or movies or anything like that,
so I find it hard to survive for that. Yeah, I like the scripts. Yeah, yeah. I think if I was,
if I was a, if I had more free time, I'd be doing this. Yeah, but I don't think so. But yeah.
That's just, that's just a bit, yeah. So, uh, did you, I think you run Debian,
I think you mentioned Debian at one point, was that you just, saying, effectively Debian is under
is, is Ubuntu is, is, yeah, one of your shows recently said on Debian, you would type and get
level of life. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, it's, it's a Debian, obviously I've been to the Debian
based in course, the distribution of an app in what not, app to, um, you call it, um, yeah,
app to the point of the package manager. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, I think there's one Debian
a wee bit, at one point, but yeah, you know, had Debian on an app, thought, that's right. I did.
But I, uh, I think, first Linux is considered, I'm a bit of a pragmatist, you know, and I just
want something that there's going to be convenient, uh, I absolutely appreciate that, you know,
Debian's more pure than, like, I've been to a sportsman. There's a little bit more of pure
than Debian, uh, but I just want something to work in it. No, no, I'm just, uh, so I just hope
yeah, I did install Debian on a, on a machine at one point. And for, oh, yes, it's great and it's
going to be stable forever. Then I realized, uh, there's a new version of this, uh, new version of
that, and it, it's not available. Yeah. It's not in the repository, so yeah, that's no good. That's why
I moved to Debian testing. Yeah. So it's, it's slightly frustrating. I used to run a bunch of
a lot, however, and for door or quite a lot in the past, but at the moment, I'm, I've got
doing testing on my desktop, uh, which is my main machine, and I've got laptop, which has got
KDE neon on it, which is, which is actually very good, which is basically a bunch of with,
with tons of, uh, KDE, and so on. I've never really got, and well, I think very, very,
they're going to, uh, I funny, I think we, we back in the, uh, the, uh, the play with their
Linux, but never really, we're very far. And it was all just kind of gooey stuff. I didn't
think about it, but I was going to have that, and all, you know, they can figure it. It was just
when I CD, and I managed to dual boot it, and I, I would have missed the, but it could
compete a lot of times, but it was a way, but I was, um, now what would it be? It read
half, five point, one of some of that away from me back. So, and then I just,
a lot of it was amazed, I didn't really know what to do with it, and that, that was as far
as I went. And then I really got into Linux properly, uh, and I
know, what was it now? It was, uh, HF. I'm going to do all the booting names, so it's, uh, the,
that that would, uh, CD, E, HF, yeah, HF, and HF, it's the first one, well, that was
16-0, 6-0, that was 16-0, that was something like that, anyway, which was the first
I got into, um, Linux properly, and, you know, it was, I think, I think, I, at that
point, I was feeling windowed, boring. I think that was it, that was, I've got,
I saw two easier just books, which, uh, which, uh, so that was that, that was the thing, and then,
and I got, uh, I got, and I've been to boot, uh, it wasn't, it wasn't ideas guided, it was something
like that, and I, uh, I was, oh, fantastic, I didn't even cover the cover sort of thing, and,
uh, and that, and that was it, sort of thing, I was just hooked, you know, and, uh, so it's
mostly been a boot to, uh, I've, I've stuck with, I haven't, uh, I've played other
distributions on laptops and stuff, and, and it was out, now, what was that one,
kind of, delving based that was the one that was quite common. It was, uh, we
So there was still runs, and I had installed crunch bang on that set.
That's it, that was the one we were thinking about.
And that was good on my other laptop.
It was a HP compact, and it was got a compact laptop anyway.
And it needed to be quite a low powered thing.
And it was great, because bank run was superb on that.
Yeah, it was really good.
I was so sad when I met Mr Crunchbanger.
Oh, okay.
I feel like Neubera.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good to see him.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he just brought that kind of for himself.
And I think he was in great surprise.
Yeah, I think it was a bit of a burden for him.
And I'm sure I've never really talked to him about why he felt it was best to break away from him.
You know, I'm sure they were good reason.
But it's a shame.
Yeah.
I think this is one of the reasons I used his OSMC thing.
I was a young child.
A young child.
He was quite young.
It's time when he started that.
And because you could do good.
It was open a lake or something like that.
Was there other one with him?
Yeah.
But that was not done by a company.
But it was the OSMC.
It was a young chap.
He was really quite young.
He started it.
And yeah, it was very good.
It went a lot of effort.
I used to have him give them a sub.
But he's doing it kind of a Christmas time.
It's got to be a really helpful hand sort of thing.
Yeah.
It could be obviously took a lot of effort to do these sort of things.
And I think he created a hardware thing.
Which, so it solved some of the shockcomings of the early pies.
But of course for the newer pies coming out.
I think maybe the timing was, unfortunately, because he produced this.
I mean, not long after the pies.
The higher the spec pies came out.
Which meant that his hardware wasn't so appealing as a server.
Yeah.
I mean, to get this to show you.
Not on a really slick distribution.
But it also comes up with a hardware as well.
And that's a heck of a undertaking for those.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Very impressive.
So yeah.
When I first started using the ones.
It was one of the early red hats.
It was four points.
All right.
Yeah.
We were running unix at work.
And one of my colleagues that he should try this Linux.
I think he would do in a part-time job working on it in a cyber cafe.
I've got this.
And it's all Linux.
Yeah.
Try it.
You should try it.
You should try it.
I don't know.
I was pretty much of the mindset that we're buying this kit.
We're getting the manufacturer, celebrating system.
And that was the way to go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he managed to convince me.
I don't know.
He's a huge athlete.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It took a little while for me to be coming up.
It's like how many colleagues tell me.
Yeah.
Well, you weren't really slow at name yet and on that.
But yeah.
Eventually did.
Yeah.
So it was red hat was red hat.
It was one of the main things at that point.
And then that turned into Fedora.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which because the red hat were were not doing a desktop version anymore at that point.
Yeah.
And so I ran for Dora with KDE for quite a time.
And then I went to one two with KDE.
So it could be a very long time.
And it's always a forget how much more difficult thing.
Greg, I remember back on the red hat five point.
One and even the earlier rush has been to things that you had to do.
You know, to get things working.
You know, tweaking your own.
What was it called?
X means that X was an idea.
Yeah.
I forget about the big file.
You could blow your own.
Yeah.
You got it wrong.
The frequency.
That's it.
Of the scan frequency or something.
And then getting your, your vanus card to work up the night.
And then you're on a more damn.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's been a lot of doing that.
I think my pal from work.
He said,
Here's the easiest way.
Because we all had access to old PCs at that time.
Yeah.
Because they would get chucked out of the student rooms and upgraded.
And all the old machines just been given away.
Yeah.
And so we all had one or two of these knocking around.
So I probably had something like a penting for those types of things.
I said,
Here's a disc.
Just blow it in and boot off.
And you have Lennox.
And I did that.
And then copied the disc contents.
He'd done the config.
Well, the most of it.
And since they were standard standardized machines,
we standardized monitors across across the right.
It was a fancy sandwich.
It was only later on when I upgraded the camera.
Oh, it's not as easy as I remember.
Yes.
It gave me an easy time to examine who did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Yeah.
I got I've actually a run.
Lennox actually was able to tell him what it was now.
You could run it from what was it called?
Okay.
When he's tiny small distributions,
I've been able to run actually able to run it at work.
Mm-hmm.
Not that.
But then.
Yeah.
I was able to do small.
We bash.
Testing, you know.
It wasn't actually for work, you know.
But yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, you do these things a lot.
Then you can do that sort of things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Young Acts.
I've worked stations.
Yeah.
Do you do some weird decision?
It would be made by somebody senior in the university.
So we had a lot of'll tricks work stations which we had to manage.
So we were using that version of Unix.
Didn't have bash.
It was too early for bash.
Right.
Yes.
Inscriptions.
Insigined DCS agent, do you know.
It was a fair bit of scripting got done.
There.
Because we were managing these things.
You often need to write through a bit of tweaking it.
tweaking it, the sort of scripting memory, that sort of thing.
There's not a bash terminal you can get from within a browser.
There's not you can log into something that you'd use.
What's it, it's emulating a, what's it use it uses flash?
Okay, when it's, yeah, it's something like that.
Yeah, it can actually, if it was Java, that's it, Java, that's it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, well, there's, of course, there's online Python, which you can act,
that's great fun as well, because in fact, that's, you know, for, for my project,
there's, there's that box thing that I've talked about, you know, for, for
control of my Raspberry Pi upstairs.
They, I could, I would sometimes, I'm a, I would free bit free time or,
work, there's a, there's an online Python that kind of,
but you can, you can, obviously, you can get account for them,
that you can try things out and you can't save it sort of thing.
So it's a play as in how featured replica, it's called replica,
something like that, it's an online Python thing.
And so you can, you can run the code and type us,
and one or just good to try it out.
Yeah, it's a play as in the air, it's very powerful, actually.
Yeah, okay, let's check that out.
I was, I was saying to you as we would, before we started recording,
I really tried to convince myself to get into Python.
So there were, we had a strong aversion to some of that.
So it got a pretty creepy tab.
It's, it's a down-to-end, and it's really, yeah.
I was, of course, with disgust at all this, I think,
I think the Python, you almost have to use the exact same editorial
time and never change because, you know, if you've,
I have a different number of spaces with different number of tabs.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I don't need to say fold-and-be code.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was, I was telling David, I used, I, but a string, yeah,
I don't think that many people use it, but it's, it's mc edit.
It comes with midnight commander.
And it's just, because it was handy and convenient.
And only thing that was rubbish, but it was the terrible,
colour scheme was like blue on,
something like blue on one.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To read, you know?
That is meant to be the most visible.
That's her.
I remember when Windows were pushing that as a big thing.
I did, it was colours, I think it was a bit of a dust.
Yeah, I think it was probably, it was a dust thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they also, also, within things like word,
they were encouraging you to go for a white on-booth.
What perfect, was that colour?
Yeah.
I was thinking, yeah.
I've never, never got on to well with that, and I'd say,
but, yeah, it, there must be some ergonomics behind there,
somewhere.
I don't know, but yeah.
But you can change your colour scheme in it.
Yeah.
So it's, it's, it's fine.
It's funny, actually, I was trying another layer to do
recently.
I work a well-back, somebody had,
particularly, the Notepad Plus Plus.
And then, I thought, because there's nothing like that on,
on Linux.
And then, I have somebody talking about, I think,
about HPR, I'm talking about,
notepad QQ, which shows up a play on Notepad Plus Plus.
So I installed it just for the day.
And it's, it's quite nice.
It's, I've got all the features of, of,
a Notepad Plus Plus.
But again, yeah.
And it could, maybe, it's a way to install the Ubuntu,
but when you highlight it, you know,
highlight your stuff, it's dreadful,
because it obviously can't see what's behind there.
It's awful, you know.
Yeah, it's nothing worse.
Yeah.
So it's funny, it's something,
and not,
some of the Ubuntu stuff,
with the newer Ubuntu GUI,
I don't necessarily get on with it.
The file manager is, it's so basic,
you know, it seems to be,
that, you know, for example,
a Vaxe, a first-sition installed Nemo.
That was a lot less type of file manager.
Which doesn't work,
there's niggles with it,
sometimes, and sometimes it can do things,
I don't know what it crashes or something.
So I'm not, I'm not trusting it.
So if it's simple stuff,
I use a standard Ubuntu file manager.
But often I've got to drop to this Nemo
and because, for example,
you can't do left and right split pains.
You know, right, right.
Now, tabs are fine for, for simple this to that.
But if you're taking from this to that,
then something else to that,
then something else to that,
then you're all over the place,
which was with the two pounds,
you've got the destination staying,
the only worthy source, multiple source.
It couldn't live without it.
No, I use Dolphi.
Dolphi, the KDA.
Ah, yeah, KDA.
Another fun thing.
Yeah, KDA.
It's, it's, it's so nice that you can split this screen
and move things about,
and you're going to multiple tabs each of which is split.
Yeah, you can do all that with Nemo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there's this Ubuntu manager.
I couldn't see, I could be wrong,
but I couldn't see how to,
it doesn't show you.
I've got, I've got a Windows partition.
It doesn't see it.
So I can't mount it.
I've got to go to this Nemo thing.
All there is here, I can now click on it.
And then the other thing is,
if you scroll through the window,
then the way that the window is displayed,
you lose the last line.
So I'm, and it test with the last filter,
at the very bottom, what?
These times for that, what?
Oh, what's that?
Oh, I can't see it.
That's the first screen.
Yeah, that's the first screen.
Yeah, that's the first screen.
You can see it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the Dolphi thing?
Yes, it just seems to get better and better.
It does things like highlighting files and
files and directories that are under the controller get and I think it shows some sort of status
information in there too and things like a side panel which in which you can have directories that
you often go to you just click on them and go there but also in there there's a list of remote
systems like a lot of my guys are on so you click on that and it SSH is doing and you get a panel
that shows a little bit of contents of the it's very good without that life would be absolutely
a bit of a bit of a bit the name of the family gives you a wee it gives you a wee ordinance lane
and the myth it which gives you a glance all that's half full of the quarter full so that
that's quite a lot of nice be touched in and then you more but but I say it's slightly flaky and
and I've been to so, I don't totally, totally trust it, it's all, but it's something
it's been my experience throughout using computers in the past 30, 40 years as I
mean. Yeah, anyway. The people come up with brilliant ideas and then a sea change
and water, they throw all those ideas away, come up with it. Yeah, a bunch of crafts
and I'm sorry, and in fact, another thing with it, they've been to the, and I'm actually just trying to get my audio working properly with the acidity.
And, and I just discovered just the other day that when I pushed the, I think it was a speaker icon,
they're now included, which I think I had before, or I was quite awkward to get.
It wasn't too bad to get to, but it was, but it made it even more difficult to get to the night,
and again, on the later, I've been just, fuck, I've always been complaining about that, because out, just by magic,
I've actually got, it's appeared from nowhere, I've got two sliders, I've got a volume, and I might gain just my single click on the status, so that's really nice.
So that, that was very handy, I thought, oh, where did that come from, it's just a pupil from nowhere?
I don't actually record an audacity, and I used to, I used to get problems with it, no.
I was given that another shot, I record all my podcasts on my Zoom,
which is, which is what we were requesting on the dashboard.
Yeah, flicking a bit of it.
And then I'd download off the SD card, and then put it out.
That's what I did.
Quite a lot.
Quite a lot.
I've got a microphone, which I couldn't go straight to audacity, and so, maybe give that a shot, if you know, you say that.
I've, I've, before I use a cod as hit, we're not getting much head forward with a boom mate,
and I finally, it keeps the microphone same position, and I want cheap, scabby things, you know,
but the, but the problem I have, as I've mentioned before, again, is everything's too big.
It's full of my face.
It's like, putting head was like, and I've told you, I just, we too big.
Yeah, I think I'd be more interested in it.
Yeah.
It actually, because it's so big, the cups kind of run, it's almost like under my chin, you know.
So, I've got to have one year, one year on, and other one off to the same.
And that, and that, and that's just quite convenient.
Because it means I can hear things going on in the room or wherever.
Yeah.
That's how I've drawn to it.
Yeah.
But it was, there were cheap, and it seemed to have quite, it came to work quite well.
So, that's how, I could, I could, I could tip, tip solution if somebody's looking for,
I'll wear a cod, and everyone's got, well, maybe not nobody's got, because everyone's got a computer a bit,
most of all, just a phone.
And that was nice.
So, it's true.
It's true.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
I've got a Samsung microphone on a boom, which is mounted over my desk.
So, that's what I used to record the community news.
So, it's really, it's a USB mic, but it's really good quality-wise.
I should really record more on that.
Although, this one is pretty good, and it has a tune right.
It can pick up sound from where you want it to.
Yeah.
I mean, how am I going to make a phone?
I think it's got five microphones in it.
Oh, my God.
The five number, right.
And a good level of all of the kids and boards, but definitely, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You can switch it into different configurations.
You can record meetings, or just have a sort of chat with somebody and record just that.
I think there's a whole deep topic that you can dive into, just with microphones and different configurations.
I'm sure that a bit, they come with a, they've got a manual, they come with a manual?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It took me a while to find out how to do something.
I was trying to listen back to what we recorded last time on it.
But you can do, but it's not obvious at all.
Yeah.
We were struggling in there.
After we recorded it, did that all work?
Yes.
Yes.
There's a lot of hidden features in there.
Good.
Okay.
So, shall we, yeah.
That's probably.
I thought we were coming up to 40.
Oh, that's what I mean.
It'll be less on to Trimbo.
Yeah.
And I've also, hopefully, I didn't ramble it.
I'm massively high speed like I did last time.
I'm consciously trying to speak in nice and slow.
Oh, yeah.
So, we've got it.
That's my good Scottish accent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's good.
That's fun.
It's fun too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fun too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It sounds like there's about an infinity of something that we can get into.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
So, yeah.
I just felt the scramble of egg and toast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Long, long, long.
Absolutely.
And we must come back here actually because this is a nice bit.
Yeah.
I like.
It's a pub, isn't it?
Yeah.
But it's awesome.
Yeah.
But it's also a restaurant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did they have a room?
There's a family of course.
They're good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's, we're quite close to sort of walking area.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because that's healing.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of people just take the trail up there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that's it.
I was just saying, oh, that's for some reason.
I mean, I don't come here with that often.
But I was, I've heard this this weekend.
Last weekend, I was with a radio meeting.
I did do a meet up.
And then, I said, it was a weekend before.
We went, came in here to take, take, was the main, main, missing eggs.
And a very companion.
And after the meal, a bit of eating too much.
Yeah.
And then maybe a couple of you walking sort of thing.
And as we putans, you say take up the cow, but yeah.
And while we're walking up all over the way, something is quite dark.
And of course, it's said then you use a food path.
And I'm going to look a bit more familiar.
I'll know you, too.
Yeah.
So we can see don't come in traffic because we're walking the right hands outside.
So you can see don't come in traffic.
That's it.
We'll see if you can walk in the right hand side.
If you dive in the left.
Of course, we're in the UK and I'm now talking to quickly.
And so we've got the top and we're walking back down.
and we've got halfway down and we have to scan those, that's clear.
We've left Michael Lloyds and what he's going on, and I said we set a ton down and we
could see these kind of, it's like a whole cluster of eliminations that we're
going to bobbing up in down here, and he has that, and you couldn't, because there's
such a dark, couldn't work out what it was, and the dogs we can ask, and we're looking
at it, and we're looking at what hell's going on here, you know, and they're getting
closer and closer and closer, and it turned out it was, people who had been jogging up
up the side of hell in, and then, oh, hello, hello, and I'm just just, they just
see up of lights on, on the forehead, they were the faster the lights on, yeah, yeah, this
is quite an area for exercise and stuff, but that was something, a lot of them were, the
obviously jogged up the top of this hell bag living again, and some of them were jogging
home, I see it, you know, if I know if I get them bikes and, wow, I haven't really
seen this effect, I've never been that much, but if you were to get to talk about hell
in my gym again, I have my kids both done skiing lessons here, and when they had their
lessons, I used to hang, hang about, and I would walk up the side of the ski slope and
round the top back down the other side, and that sort of thing, and that's quite a steep
hill, so you need some good boots on there, just be able to do a good place for a ski
slope and stuff, you don't do that on an icy day though, because you'll be on your back
side, you slide in fat, so you need to ski, it's one of the nicest tools around the
area, and then there's old Pentlands on the way, which is pretty different. Anyway, enough
of that, enough of that, well we're at no worries, four to six minutes yet, yeah, well
that's a good sign of the Education Health Group, of course, you're trimming them, yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, yeah, it's a good buy from Haka, a public video, there you go,
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