This is hacker public radio episode, 3,356 for Monday, the 14th of June 2021. To its show is entitled, HPR 2020, 2021 New Year's Eve, show episode 5. It is hosted by Hunky McGoo, and is about 282 minutes long, and carries an explicit flag. The summary is, the HPR community, stops by for a chat. This episode of HPR is brought to you by an honest host.com. Get 15% discount on all shared hosting with the offer code HPR 15. That's HPR 15. Bit your web hosting that's honest and fair at an honesthost.com. Yeah, everybody seems to be quiet. Yeah, it seems like sound. That happens a lot. It's coming up on New Year's and like UTC times, that's like England. So it's probably going to get loud soon. That's what Brexit officially occurs. Yep, in 15 minutes, it's going to be New Year's and London. It's going to be Brexit. So that's going to be... You go from UK then? No, no, I'm just saying it's going to get loud then, since someone is saying no one's talking. So what are you from? Uh, America. So you have seen in December? So the closest you can be. Yeah, I'm on East Coast. So for those of you who are already in 2021, is it better yet? Nope, it's the same. Just don't unlock them. I have a feeling something kind of stuff is going to happen in like the first day of January. We're going to realize this is going to happen for another year. This is going to happen for another year. Have you seen the main going around about 2020 saying you can't do any worse in me and 2021 going? Hold my beer. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that we will at least have another one another year of this. The least most of the year, I mean, even with the vaccine, it's going to take six day months to get any type of real-discribution. Yeah. If we just count the number of weeks, in Sweden, you need to unoculate yourself between two separate dates of four weeks. And the people that get it first are the emergency responders and the really sick and old ones, and those are a very small majority of the population as a whole. And that's the first eight weeks. And if we have got rid of all the data to know. No. And that's going to happen in January. So January and February is booked for people that really need the vaccine. And then we have at least four or five more of those batches until we are closed to reaching most of the population. So at least until summer, but I'm pretty sure that the whole year will go to anoculating people. When you know that there's going to be a high percentage of idiots. Well, there's always a high percentage of idiots. And the last idiot is not born yet. Yeah. But, you know, somebody will get the inoculation and decide that ten minutes later they can go out and party, not realizing that the immunity has to build up in their system. And then they'll wonder why they got COVID after they got the vaccine. And then they will spread a lot of lies on Facebooks. Exactly. And the COVID vaccine gives you COVID. Yeah, that could also be it. Or deep state is telling us to inoculate ourselves because they want to put micrachips in our arms. Yeah. They don't have to put a micrachips on our arms. They already got us to buy our own portable surveillance devices. We call cell phones. Yeah. So those rumors are just so incredible stupidity. I saw them meme. It was like, you know, on the 50s, everyone was worried about getting wiretapped. And now we say, hey, wiretapped. Add eggs to my shopping list. So yeah, we haven't really improved on this episode. You're talking about Google. Thank you, Alexa. Very spoke. See you tomorrow. So when you prefer, oh, the one. Oh, Jack, you're a midcast listener. No microphone. So, Joe, are you listening? Do the midcast? Yeah. No. I don't listen to the midcast because I'm a host. Oh, oh, yeah. It's okay to listen to what you're in God called thing. Yeah. We won't hold it against you that you're a midcast host. Oh, thank you. I appreciate, no. It's a good show. It's the general topics. I have never listened to it. Linux. The next minute. Your front. A lot of it is in regards to Linux Mint. But that's a pretty narrow topic. So we do Linux in general. And sometimes we branch out into security in general. So I've done in hell in this member room or some other place. What's that? I've done inside this member room or we've done some other place. Um, this is actually we used to use this Mumble exclusively for it. Me and then you vanished. Yeah, and then we got our own Mumble set up and we used this as our Backup Mumble server. No one uses it anymore. But we were getting a better sound quality Using our own for some reason. Yeah, maybe it's closer to the air you're at. Probably. But we have had a couple of hosts that were across the pond in Blackpool. Is it on the contrary? It's right outside of London. Oh, it's a city. Are you in UK? No. The pool is not outside London. It's also time behind testing. I can be here again. Yeah. I can hear it. Yeah, I can hear it. I'm trying out. I've never used Mumble. I used Plumble. That's on me using Android for this. But that's not working. That's abandoned way apparently. What? Plumble? Do I have any background or are you my banging? No. No. No. No. No. I think I can hear this echo. Yeah, I got something called Boat Hammer in my flat annoyingly. And they're going to fix them all next week. Hopefully. Okay, it's come back. I don't want to know if I'm talking about it. But anyway. No. I'm in the UK. And we're going to the 2020 one although there's probably not much to celebrate until Okay, but it is eventually. I don't know if it's ever actually going to be over. But it might be under control. Well, yeah. But you are going into new exciting times outside of the EU. Now. So. So some things in the process. You see it. Are you saying Plumble is abandoned? Let's call us from. Why are I from? I'm from Sweden. I'm from Norway. He's from Norway. But even Sweden away. I'm also halfway the check sheet. That's why I thought that was interesting. Yeah. I'm from Sweden. I'm still using Plumble. Yeah. Well, someone had mentioned that Plumble was abandoned where. And I was going to say another really good android client is Mumla. Maybe. Yes. I've got the text notifications. They think as well. Yeah. I had to turn off the text to speech for all the text. But we're all the same. But because that's very nice. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. As I turn off. It's insane, Julie. But I'm doing good job. I've been looking in most of the day. Yeah. Through the stream. I'm trying to get on with it. There's always something in Norway. There's something in Sweden. No hear that. Right? Yes. I'm from Sweden. I was one in Norway. Nice. Yeah. Gothenburg. It's a boy. It's a boy. Oh yeah. It's a boy. Gothenburg. Or. It actually from Kung Spucker. It's like three. Thirty. Kilometer. So a thirty five kilometers from there. I don't know where enough I would dress as well. But I think I've been there when I was very little. Just about belly counts if so. But it's supposed to be very nice over there as well. Or normally. Yeah. Good. I see. So we don't know. I believe it's pretty nice in Norway as well. We often go there to ski. Use to go there. Popping us this year. Nope. I'm pretty sure that I haven't been anywhere outside of Gothenburg. Or Kung Spucker this whole year. Yeah. It's not been out of my city this year. That's going to go. Yeah. Sadly, we have to go into Gothenburg, which Kung Spucker is a little bit smaller than Gothenburg. We have, I think, about 80,000 people in the population. But Gothenburg is pretty close. And when we are fixing our glasses, we need to go to Gothenburg because the people that working Kung Spucker is very incompetent of actually repairing glasses. And as I have two younger kids, which are very active. The glasses goes really fast. They are destroying those things. So I don't think you're in a very long time. It's too hard. But what did you say? I don't think you're in a very very long time. Yeah. And then you used to be vanished and all you vanished. I re-installed my computer. I had said for a long while that I would never install Windows 10. And then some of my programs that I used daily stopped working in Windows 7. And they will never release an update to them. So I had a couple of months of updates to do in order to get Windows 10 in a reasonable state. It still blew screens about three times a month. But it works reasonably now. So it took me a while before I actually installed mumble again. Because I had so much other things I wanted to get working. When you vanished, all the other guys vanished too. This is the end time. I wanted you to do the same thing as you. Yeah, I think it was a lot more people here. While we were running the dungeons and dragons things as well. Because then I had to be here once a week. Yeah. Enjoy that session. I hate that that was when I stopped it was only you stopped all the other boot dungeons and dragons and that was when I stopped coming here. And I was waiting for other time you were not doing that stuff. But you stopped only all the data session. Yeah. Well, it was more to the reinstallation than actually the dungeons and dragons stopping. Yeah. How do I do it? Yeah. How do I turn text to speak sure if I was going to say the same things. And also some people would do fireworks a little bit early, don't they? Yeah. I think they started here, uh, believe around nine o'clock and some, uh, ten. And then there were two hours where really silent. And then I think, uh, half an hour. I heard some about five minutes outside. I think and now it's now it's new. Yeah. Yeah. Ready. But TV is absolute joke. They're all looking show is big Ben. No fireworks in London this year. Happy New Year. Yeah. Happy New Year. Yeah. I think they actually went out of the way this year with the fireworks in my city. I mean, I don't, I just don't really care to be honest because because we're and all these restrictions there. You don't, you go out of that and Sweden, but in the, in England and UK and Wales and Scotland, not just here. It's other countries too. We run dirty. It's just, well, we think it's bad here. But there are countries out there where it's a lot worse to be fair with their restrictions. And it's just crazy. Yeah. We are wearing masks and we are keeping a distance of four meters. So we are lucky there. And we actually have a space, uh, close to my house, which is on a very large hill or mountain. So we can look at it. So we're sitting on the fireworks. So you have more people sitting in the mountain. There garden having a better fun, please. Hahaha. Western Sweden supposed to less restriction. I know that all the oil on the whole country is before. I think we had, uh, well, I think we have perhaps little less restrictions than some countries, because we are still sending our kids to school. But we have a lot of restrictions when it comes to keeping distance when we are out walking or meeting people or if we are in a shopping centre or so on, we need to wear masks and we need to keep distance. Hmm. That's the restrictions. It not started masking away. Hmm. So no, actually, yeah. It can also be that just me and my family have those restrictions, because my wife is a nurse. But that's what I am told. Yeah. What we are keeping to. Yeah. You have a nose in the family. That's the main reason. That was to the family. We just started with the restrictions again. We had, we had no masks here in the first lockdown. They put it like March, April, May, and then decided to mask. And it was like, right, you know, a mask in the shop or in the reception card, or land yards, get out, rent maybe. And then it was like, bun on the bus as well. And then the cinema suddenly. And then the pubs, it was actually as well. So no robbing with mask in the morning. And now I think they want to do school kids. And people go to the works. That's everywhere basically. Because there's a new way. Because there's a new, there's a mutation in the parent name as well. So you're sitting next to speak. I think the most piece I can find the same with text speech. Where is it? And because that is annoying is true. You probably cannot help yourself. To mum. If you're running mumble into the computer, pull down, you should see a checkbox for text to speech. And then mum, the android client was recommended, yeah, mum was running in the room. Mum, that's where it's called. You have a headset so we don't have the voice going around when you speak. Oh, we're going around. What made me? Yeah. Yeah. We hear ourselves when you speak. I'm, I'm not using phone, obviously. At the moment. That's why I said android. I've got, I don't know, I got Bluetooth as I found. And I was thinking, like, could I maybe I can use that as well? Or would, or something. You can. If you have Bluetooth from the device, you're talking number three. Well, with mumla, after you connect to the server, which of course you already are, the hamburger menu in the top right hand corner will have Bluetooth call. Yeah. Or it'll just say Bluetooth and you have to click on that. I saw the, yeah, I think I saw the, yeah, sort of Bluetooth, but then I found the sold headset, which I assume as a my burden as well. I was like, it still works. I was out this day to get some, there in Sweden we have during both, to Christmas and also to New Year's, we have these kind of TV shows where we set up and watch. And they are doing some kind of lottery during that time, and also having some kind of bingo system that you need to fill out. And so on. So it's a little bit of a fun thing to do while you're waiting for it. And I had to go get those lottery tickets. Today's, I wear a mask. And the annoying part is my glasses is steaming. When I used my mask, I was looking for something with that could handle that. And I found this mask that was a steam punk cosplay mask. Not really what I wanted, but it was really cool. With your cloth masks, you can order these, stick on metal strips that will form around your nose. Oh, yeah, but these are cloth masks that are, I think they are night black ones, and they are not the old one that are, they conform to the face, but some air still escapes. The metal band really helps with that. And it'll just keep it that little bit more snug onto your nose. And now the metal bands don't last for a long, but I think last time I ordered, I got a hundred for like five bucks. So one falls off, I put another one on, and I'm going to go. So it's one that you just sit next. You can use it with one use masks, or I have several masks that I rotate through, but you know, it's only going to stick on one of them. So the hundred is really helpful for that. And then that allows me to wash the mask. And then if I wash the mask, yeah, I have to put on a new strip. Interesting. Not having many talking about washing it. One use mask. Oh, my masks are generally, washable, oh, mask, with, yeah, washable masks with charcoal filters that you can put in. Oh, yeah, so they're not one use mask. Yeah, they're not. A lot of the disposable ones come with those strips built in. Yeah, yeah. I'm not heard about anyone, that's touching them. I've used those with strips, but those were for painting, so a little bit of a different use case there. All right, drop the link. Yeah, it's a little dim, but we can hear you. Yeah, that's just works. Yeah, no echo. I got it. I've got a headset on now, so I guess it works. Yeah, it works. I didn't hear, I hear a, I hear a, I hear a, I hear a, I hear a, I need a talk then you're talking. Although the batteries, I use this for like, I don't know. Who put you about three, four years or some, I remember buying it, I thought it, but, no, I mean, I remember buying it and they found it, but I've never got used to it. And I turned it on, and it's like, oh, it's all got power, and I thought I could ask you, oh, oh, maybe get low power. So the moment, you doesn't talk anymore, and it's, it's, it's me, it's dead then. What was that? Cross mask as well. Yeah, ah, plenty of that. I'm going to, I'm going to wear them everywhere now. Get a lot of these prices on Amazon. You have the four bucks for the metal strips, which is really nice price. And then you have the 14 bucks to send them to Sweden. That's a bit of an edge. Yeah. Well, that's also, the thing Sweden was kind of, I would like the one that wasn't doing lockdown, the one that wasn't doing this, wasn't doing that. Maybe told people, social decisions about it. And they're all the rest of Europe, like lockdown, we're pretty much maths and all the rest of it. Yeah. But I think I did an episode about how we, how we did it in Sweden, and what the actual restrictions were. But that was a couple of weeks ago, and they have added more tighter restrictions lately. Yeah. And I saw on this T.C. now, where we've called on TV a few times here on BBC, as well, talking about William and what they were doing. But probably today, many people all start to watch this, even though you know it. We only limit, we have this home, and you can be in one place. Well, so again, no, no way. No way. Yes. We only limit, we have, we know that all this, the limit home and it people can be in one, it's location. Yeah. We have that here as well, life didn't make full of house, all of them, that was what I said in the section for that. Only me, people outside, made me, and as a care system, they've, like, they've put mostly, kind of, most of England in the highest tier, and the new tier, where basically lockdown. And then, I thought it's bad here, because they put us up in the highest tier, before the new tier fall. Well, it was like, we're only placing the tier free in it. It's like, why are you the city's bad, but they're not living. We have all shops open. We have, never had it. They are not, not having second-rated lockdown, else do the first one. Yeah. We also have all shops open, and I think there is, a limit of eight people in a group. Something like that. Yeah. We are all in the middle, and how many in a group. Two. It's, it's just, it doesn't follow. It no one enforce it. Yeah. You know, nobody, nobody enforces this. And you also can see people having small parties by the beach with 20 people. And you're like, why? Yeah. No enforcement. Well, I'll be pet that here tonight. I'm sure, people waking the rules and having parties and things. Especially younger people. Apparently, the beaches are packed in some places in Florida here. So, Lisa. In the summer in the England, oh, yeah, the beaches were, as you saw, we were, we were, we were, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're finally off celestial tests in the people waiting beaches and yet there's no no the people out on the beach. Right. I saw, I saw a TV report uh, where, I think there were uh, loads of restrictions coming to the UK. And then all the younger people went out to the pub, just for a last night, before the restrictions were, Yeah. Yeah. That's לא. Shooting night, on the things we've got and it's like that. It's probably a surreal that they knew lockdowns coming or all the next lot of restrictions. Same when they put London into tier 4 with it which is basically lockdown. People knew that was coming so many people escaped London the day before, basically and they were loud but not on the whole area that was going into the tier 4. Lots just escaped the day before it was all train station was busy in the road and yeah. What is your tier? What is your tier? What are the different people in 50 different tiers? Yes, this is the fact that they've settled putting it into the national lockdown again, where it's the whole country. They've split it up into areas or counties based in counties and things and it's got a lot more strict recently when the latest review because nobody's in tier 2 anymore, a lot of where before. Now everybody everyone's in tier 3. Well, 7-8% of the country is in tier 4 which is basically lockdown and then I'm in tier 3 just tier and around here we are and a few other places and then there's a little either dusk or mall that's in tier 1 and that's it, that's only place but they've been there. So we're all with it, let's do it. They're worried about a mutation here, the apparently a new rotation, they would have go around and set a lot easier apparently. I believe that I heard on the news that there were a new strand that came from the South Africa and then ended up in the UK and now we have it in Sweden because somebody let one flight through into Stockholm with a think there were eight Swedes and two Finnish people that were flying to Finland. And they forgot to check that. The news train made it to the US too so. It's like you knew that we have corona virus and you still forgot to check a flight. It's just whoops the whole flight. We don't need to check it. They're fine. It was just one flight. You wish one? That's all we've needed. So the third one is coming out, it's probably going to forget one plane again. All right, I think you can have how many waves as you want and if we get at least one vaccine for the first strand, we should be able to replicate the knowledge that we have for the second strand as well if they are close. That's my only thing that the UK has actually two of the vaccination approved already. So we've got the American, the Paiser, where it's all the American vaccine. That was approved first, the Compton Belgium, the American vaccine really. And we've got our Oxford vaccine approved as of a big Monday as well. And so the day could have that's hung on vaccinating like millions of million millions of people before as a spreading our chain care basically. And then hopefully that will get us out of this stuff because it's just really annoying now. I think that we have one vaccine that is in trial and perhaps will be accepted, but we have a lot of people falling in. They don't actually want in it. The only problem, the only thing is apparently that you're still vaccinated, it doesn't necessarily mean you're not going to spread it. They don't, they don't know for sure for me, because maybe spread it, you may be vaccinated, so they're trying to test that apparently. You figure that one I hope. Yeah, the problem is that we are still having cold weather and we are, and it's spreading through droplets. And those can stay in the air and you can have them on your clothes and so on and spread them around if you are. So it's hard to contain. So you're not an ask again to that. Yeah, the masks is mostly for you not to send the droplets into the air, but that's the the masks you're. Or we get we get anti-mafoetestos there as well, and all that, oh yeah, people are protested to the gates. I haven't heard anything about protests against masks in Sweden. We just, they have, yeah, London has a protest and somewhere else, I think, well London, yeah. People are just not wearing them, but we haven't had any protests against them. I guess that's the kind of silent protests. Yeah, you just, if you just need to post it, why it's going to do it. But the masks are quite new in Sweden, or are they rendered out? Or do you have to wear them? I mean, apparently it wasn't really masks at all. It's all worth it. Yeah, I have weared masks for a year. I got my first mask. I think around not a year, but at least around April, I got my first mask. I'm wearing it. Yeah, at least. So as long as I haven't been talking to you. But I haven't, when you go out, you see that people are keeping distance, but you don't see that many people with masks. Oh, so it's not a totally nice preparation. No, not at all. Here they, hey, they recommended it, also at a queue, and like, were you going to shop and think like that? And of course, no people like, oh, I'm not doing that. And so they're basically forced on people on this light. But you're going in a shop with a mask, or you might get found if not, or all you have in the section, to say that you've got your, your, your depth. But then that becomes a problem at home, too, because certain people then get challenged in the shop, or the cafe, or the restaurant, and it's like, well, you're not wearing the mask, and it's like, I'm exempt, and they still get the still got that challenge, right? So it's becoming a bit of a nasty thing, I think, certain people. In fact, that I, I just do do an online shopping, and it's that person needs most of that same. And as I've said other people, we just like, we're not going to bother with shops, then I'll just get things on mine, I'll get my food on mine, I'll get some things. Yeah, probably the year of London shopping, don't you mind? You can be, how to get slots sometimes, that's the only thing with that. But otherwise, otherwise, it's, it works quite well. It comes your door, it's the occasion to get the long thing to live for a little bit on things like that, but I'm by a 50, I live by a 50, so basically any company that matters like that, that's digging up is going to live here as well. So it's a robot that they deliver or a human. Any company that matters is digging up older than the here as well, so it lives by a 60, I say, by a 60. So it's a human that they deliver as a thing. She's a supermarket, yeah, yeah, they have some, yeah, and shop, yeah, a supermarket, they have delivery doors, it comes from a company, and you order your door in line, and it's awesome. Since on videos about Amazon living, it's robot. Yeah, it's not really there, yeah, the drone delivery stuff, yeah, in some places it happens, but it's not worth it. Yeah, good promising, just a few videos that's shared here. Now, that's Amazon doing in the UK and so on too, as well. They've got, I don't, and on a little bit as well. Oh, number three. Major supermarket, in the UK, we're seeing doing it, FK, and things are going to be amazing. But most of them, it's, you can order online and then drive by and pop your trunk if you name it. They put it in the trunk for you, or the boot, whatever you want to call it, and then you take it home. I think that's the, one of the better solutions, actually, just to go there and get it. But now, we have also trucks running around, and just delivering to your doorway, and you can take it in yourself. And also some deliveries, or packages, or going that way as well, where they have people, a specific service that takes it the last bit to your door. And I take a photo of it and send you a photo of, here you have your package, you can open your door now. Yeah, I know we have a service in a way that just did that shortly to deliver. Yeah, so we've got clicking to let the world, the big two markets do that. Well, it's got your own car, and then trying, you can sort of order online and go to the shop and pick it up, as well, so that's an option as well. But there's also, there's one particular company called the Caril Okdo, which is only online, and they've been going since 2000, they believe, and then you started using them on a bit, well, I only had two deliveries, my phone, but it has some of the more fancy products, they get to eat it soon, and then pass as well. So they've got some of the different other products. And they've got a deal, they have deal with one of the big super, it is supermarkets, wait for it, isn't that MNS, so they're kind of good as well, but I don't have the money to constantly shop there, they're supposed to need that, the only thing was that one. So delivery does that cost much in the UK? Yeah, it varies on companies, so with like a car though, they also have a delivery capacity date for a month, although I've noticed if I do it in one delivery there, and I get the right there and I do it late, I might be getting a free slot anyway, or they haven't, a lot of them have like a minimum spend, spend like 15, 25 pounds, and then you can have a delivery, but they've done the other sort of delivery pass, where you pay per month, where you're supposed to, but with one food market, I did it in August, and I have not been charged only delivery since, so I don't know if that mistake for, I forgot about you. I haven't, I haven't used it a few times like that anyway, that's three times, and so I don't know, but yeah, they take charge people for the delivery usually or they might do. I've didn't look up the distance from a black pole to London, and that is definitely Texas close. That's no, black, well, black, black, cool, that came in the north. It's 200 and 39 miles away, and like I said, that's Texas close. Everything, everything in UK is Texas close. Yeah, I came in when you said about black pole, so I don't know if you said Texas close, maybe it's Texas big, yeah. Texas is huge. It's about, I'm in the middle of Texas, and I could drive about eight hours in either direct, while either east or west or south, and still be in Texas after eight to 12 hours. I think then black pole is a peculiar way out there, and then if you go a little bit there, then you're in Scotland. Yeah, it's weeding. You can drive coast to coast in five hours, but are you can't drive from the southern part of Sweden to the northern part in less than 12 hours at least? In the last time I was in Texas, it worked well. Last time I was in Texas, I learned they have no idea of size. I found out how big a Texas skunk is, and it takes three vans to get rid of one. Shees. The most thing about Sweden as well is that it's not completely wrecked. I'm talking about forest and things still being there, right? Not a lot of fun, I mean the sunman as well, but Sweden's, I think a lot of the main places are quite far away from each other, you know cars get around or train maybe if not. If you're going to go between a major place, I don't know if that's where you'd agree to me, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of the forest. If we go to the northern part with I do did ones, I had to go front up there. I took the train for 14 hours and was up there, and I believe eight of those hours were just forest. That's what I like about Sweden, and when you get off the plane as well on the summer, than that plenty of time being off the ocean, you get off the forest, you're like, oh lovely. Because in England it's just basically wrecked, but I'm for the most part by far, by town, cities, roads, farmlands, and yeah, there's a few places that aren't, but especially wrecked, a lot of people here as well. You have something in the trees in the UK? So like, second, it's not a treeless country. You have something like this? There are some nice places, yeah, but it's very popular. I'm going to wrap by people with the most part. But have I the right picture of UK if the Sword Thouden path is very southern path is part part of the UK is mostly populated and deforested and cities, and so on, and more of Scotland, and the northern part is more of forest and countries. So we've put Scotland in for Wales, then Wales, I think, of mounds and hills and nice places that you can go on a walk normally, and seeing with Scotland through an experiment plan, and not that I've been to Scotland for years, and if you're England specific to the only England, not the rest of it, only England, then it's exactly what I just buy in my opinion anyway. Well, I just said that just now it's very kind of wrecked by people, very populated, and most of the nature is kind of destroyed. I mean, there's a late district, which is nice, and there's cool malls for the sea, so things like that, but it's just not very nice in a lot of cases, I guess. In this context of like nature, it's fast. If you want a city, then there's some good city, you sure? Yeah, you have London with just a very strange city. You can go there for a week, and not see everything, and you can be there a day, and be very... I went to a London for a week, and wanted to see all the things, and we ran around all of the London, and we did not see everything. No, so I can hate it, yes, quite big. And there's a lot of things to see, a lot of both musicals and different tourist attractions. Yeah, here's the cool, I'm not with taking care of the times, and no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it was like 10 years ago or something, so... Probably, if you don't know, no, it's a much less Turkish mess. Open to people. No, you can see all that's open, probably. Yeah, I've heard that they are actually running musicals for a zoom audience, or for a web conference audience. That's a very nice initiative. Yeah, they did. There was something on Christmas Eve, and I was like, what's this? It was like, there's like a zoom pan to my long TV though, that had, we had the song for a little bit, and there was like, oh, I'm not going to watch this. It's a pan to my mind, this is not quite a pan to my mind. It's not quite on zoom, it's just not the same. That's not a pan to my mind, it's a great, or they can be quite good standard on zoom. It doesn't really work. Even if you put famous actors in there and stuff, so we turned that off quite soon afterwards. No, it's a little bit sad. I actually were in a zoom concert with the... Not a famous group, but they were quite good, and they were really nice with the community and... Yeah, for quite, I saw that, I've seen on the news or something like, well, you see that all they've got left, but I think that could sort of work, because the everyone can sing when they're meant to, and I've done public speaking groups, that'll work, and love you on zoom perfectly. If I can go around the world now, because it's an international thing anyway, and it's like I had Halloween in Indonesia, for example, because some of you have been invited us to go there, and I went on and didn't really Halloween-style meacing on zoom and Indonesia, well, midday here, but yeah, why not, and they've felt really good English too. Nice. And then they were this initiative by the Coldplay singer. He started this, where he sang for his fans, and then he said, okay, all other famous people, let's join together and do a long stretch of the concert, where we sing to our fans, and that was a really nice. I was a zoom work, and work for conferences as well, and things like that, so the international speech context between the day they have to do it here, and the zoom is speaking in all that stuff, and I was sitting there watching it, and it was just so the contest before the main one as well, and things, and it's just everything was once and well, and it worked so well, zoomed with lots of people involved, and part of this actually part of it, and then watching it as well, and they're doing that next year as well, and it was kind of cool in a way, because it's like, okay, cool, and that's just America to see this. I wasn't going to America to see this old friends, so they'd be normally in America, they would have done it in France 2020, but obviously COVID, but it gave me the opportunity to see some of the best public speakers in the world, basically, in the winter, winning, trying to win this, and I wouldn't have the opportunity normally, because I'm not what money's just going, spend to go off to the conference, man. Yeah, I think I have been during this year to 20 conferences, and that's you know, that's not the only thing that you do, so I've been to a lot of different bitcorn and a bunch of Google conferences, and so on. Yeah, so yeah, it was some positive going to be online somehow as well at the beginning of February this time, good COVID, obviously, so how are they going to do that one, maybe soon more of the end soon, because Zoom is proprietary software, that's the thing. Yeah, it's proprietary social software, really, so you can't believe you've kept seeing how a big conference either as an example opens also, because I think that could happen very well. But then we had this awesome experience of being at Tomorrowland where they had the virtual conference with music forums, with virtual stages, which was totally, yeah, it blew my mind to have a virtual audience that actually worked. If you didn't really look close at them, you could actually believe that we were watching a large venue. Oh, I don't know, I was invited to, or found out about this, like, made, as it's a small thing, really, but I did like a Swedish, made something, and it was like a couple doing songs, and there was a guy who was like a music teacher or what, or you know, he is still really doing a bit of a different place, and he's gone there, and I was like, what's that? I'm not sure if you're going to see what this is, and I did a few of those, and that was kind of nice. So I think for music, I think the music Zoom will work, and things like that, but obviously it's still going to be back, so in person, isn't it? It depends on who's there and what kind of people you are meeting. I am a little bit of an introvert, and a lot of people that work in the computer, Reina is also introverts, so they don't really like when you are talking through them face-to-face, but I have had a lot more engagement and talks with people in my field, through Zoom than I had when I was actually meeting them in person, because they felt that I jumped on them with questions, without really, yeah, it got very strange when you talk to them in person, but over a Zoom call, there were more relaxed and could answer questions. Yeah, well, yeah, it's very Zoom, or something like this is going to be a bit easier as a channel, because you're not actually in person, but it's, I don't know, it's been a weird year in this sense, it's not, I've got calendar, and it should be I'm going to the city to go to some conference, or I'm going off somewhere to go and do this, not, I'm going some online, a band, it's happening, or I'm doing something online, and then the next week, you know, I mean, yeah, but I were actually on at VidCon in February this year, or last year, and that was in London, and was a really good conference to be at, and then Corona hit, and now have been to VidCon again, but online, I think I got pretty much the same experience doing it online as being there in person. Yeah, so one conference, I really got cancelled, but it's only got to get about 300 people, so I guess they're enough, there's no controls thing, but I was, I was able to do Brussels, or for the last year, to say 2020, just before this Corona really hit off and ruined. There were a lot of things for basically the whole, the rest of the year, the whole nine months, and it's still not over yet, but, you know, and also got to go to like a high-fi music event, with again, with in February as well, with a really expensive speakers, and also a little bit home cinema, so like I've got to see a Naked TV, for example, one of the only LG, I've had a while borrowing it, I think, from LG directly, so this is Demo, not that they're going to be a much AK, they're anywhere anytime soon, but that kind of thing, it's a big event, it went being going for 30 years, or something like that, and I think that's going to be cancelled, obviously, in February, and probably for the whole of this year, 2021, I suppose it's in the council, but which is a shame, because it's a nice thing to go to nearby hill and the bus, and you don't think that would be very good, but you can come this way, big on Zoom, like that, no chance. Yep, it's all to, I guess those compressors are more to sell products, right, or display products, and that you can do oversoul videos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they want to sell products as well, yeah, and you have companies there, they're marrying their kit, yeah. I think if you are very creative about it, you can do it over Zoom as well, just that you need to, if you do it in person, you can handle one person at a time, but if you're doing it over Zoom, or other video conferences, you can actually handle a large group of people at the same time watching the same presentation, or asking questions about a product, so you can be more efficient, actually. But I was wondering one thing, I just got to my mind when we were talking about this distributing food, and so on. While back, I was working on this webpage, and I did the payment solution, and then I left the company that worked for, I didn't know how it actually went with the product, but it's a product for buying food online, and then distribute it with containers, I believe, and when you went to a container and picked up your food or something, and it was called market, and it should go live in Norway, or perhaps they go on bus, I don't know, because I didn't really follow up on that one. Is it still going in Norway, or is it's not something that you have heard about KDB? It's got to do ask me. Yeah, I just don't know, I just started reading, but if you're texting. Yeah, there were a company called market that sold groceries online, and then should deliver them by containers to different cities, and so on, do you can go pick up your groceries? Is that something that is going in Norway, or is that company bus? You know, not succeed with her? Yeah, I don't know, because I get almost three days away from one shop. Okay, you haven't heard about them, or they are not a big thing in Norway, at least. They are not a big big thing, I don't know, they're about them, but I don't know if I'm following you, so hey. Yeah, it was just the one thing that I was thinking about, because it was kind of fun to work about on that very solution, because they were very innovative, but I think that perhaps were a little bit early with the release, if they have done it during COVID times, I think that that solution would have been a really interesting one. I just ran through my heard from my grandparents, kind of, half the tone place in my city, half the city burned down. Hmm, if I didn't tell them, I probably not know about it in a year or two. Public, they hold, we all get new stuff probably not know about it. So it is a coding anyway, it is a coding in the podcast. Parties recording the podcast? Two people. Okay, I can't see on this crime, but I think that some sounding can. If p, p a good, it's recording into Belgium. Yeah, but I think Honkís is the official recording, I know his been going all day, and he's also the one that had it from last year. I needed a portion of the raw instead of what came out on HPR, so I was able to get it from Honkís. Yeah, he had the last one. Is it going to come up as well? Oh, I'm going to come up for that one. The more you rush, how are you the longer you take? So it could be a couple of months. So we do some editing run. Um, yeah, um, either... I think K-Wisher actually did the editing from last year. Fork me if I'm wrong K-Wisher. Yeah, that guy that doesn't talk or listen. I think it's just to say the Y-empty, no, no more talking elements about it for editing. Yeah. K-Wisher now has not been talking all this thing since I don't. Okay, well, he was talking earlier in the day. Oh, he was, because after I don't, he's been talking to Lynn of talking and speaking. Yeah. When I was on this morning, he was talking. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I think I know it was Honki that had the all the raw recordings from last year, and I think it was K-Wisher that did the editing. And then I'm not sure who posted it to H-B-R. So does... I say, who's going to listen to the whole 26 hours or so, are you, are you going to do any one here? Well, most likely, what they'll, yeah, I'm not going to listen to the whole 26 hours, and it'll end up being split up into three different recordings, and once all the truncase silence is removed, it will be a lot shorter. Yeah, because then I don't really have to worry about the silence, I mean, with the chat only, but I was going to listen to the whole thing otherwise. No, then I don't be. It's easy. It's too quick. Yeah. The editing, I would, I would do some noise leveling, and I would do the truncase silence for everything, and, well, that would be most of it. I would do some spot listening, but I definitely wouldn't go through the whole thing for editing. It's too... It's that it's because it probably take us here to get done here. I think you can do 26 hours pretty fast, if you want. Well, I wish we had a lot of silence. I do. Well, yeah, that's why you loaded up into audacity and you truncase silence first. Man, doesn't can have some sort of something automated. I remember him saying he had something automated to remove the silence. I know, well, yeah, it's actually really easy in audacity, but I know Hunky McGoo, who does the editing for the Linux Logcast, he has a script that automatically does the truncading. So, so after he has done that done, we can talk about how many hours it's been, but that's it. Oh, the recording is. So what show is this in the run? What show is this? This is the HPR New Year show. That's the one. So H.O. is better show that's still around. I'm not sure if anybody's still recording on this server regularly. Yeah, because I'm not seen anyone. The last people I've seen was the dungeon people. That's what's recently come in and leave this place. Oh, done. That's not seen anyone doing this place in the whole year. Do the SMLR guys still use this? I remember that some guys said they were going on Sunday, Saturday, and I was looking out for them, and I forgot about it, and I was looking again, no one doing it. Maybe that was the main cause you were talking about, because you switched the voice and, yeah. I think a lot of the recordings of Haka Public Radio is done by one video old poster, so I don't think that most of it will need a mumble server in order to record them. No, it's not needed here. But it was when to talk to people when they show us done before. We've done not seen the people in a long time. I wonder if the Saturday ones are done here, perhaps, when you have a month break and you talk about all the shows for one month, those could be recorded here, perhaps. Yeah, I am in Jupiter on Sunday, it's better maybe why I'm not seen it there. It's this show in here. I think it's mostly Ken, and one person more that I forgot the name of, that records those. Perhaps they are using some other server when they do that. What's the other guy's name, sharing with him? Yeah, I think Ken is in all the ginger and the dead and shows. Or what they were, and not sure if they were to record them. Or did they call them? I'm not sure if they bring that as a podcast. Yeah, they can't fall on and David Morris, they usually do this end of the month. Yeah, recordings where they go through and look at all the feedback that I've been done during a month. Yeah, that was for the people, but I ended up being a pop-it-inter. I have been thinking about actually joining one of those sessions, but I've been very busy lately with work. And I've also been thinking about recording a show, but that's also because of work. I've been able to do that. But hopefully next year, when everything has settled, it's more said to me. I mean, this year, 21 this year. Yeah, this year, you know. 22, you're talking about taking it. No, probably the one, of course. Yeah, this year. This is the 2022. Yeah, this year. Well, it's been a lot of work during the end of last year to prepare for the storm of people. We're going to read the news during the December month. We never saw people. Joe, I'm talking to you from the future in 2021. Yeah, I'm fortunate we still got COVID. So you're on UK, you are one of the hinders behind you. Yeah, well, this is it. This is it. We've just left you properly. There's no transition thing anymore. It just expired. No, no, five years. And there's a deal now of some sort saying that. But yeah, one or no. We're going to be your friendly neighbor, apparently. The next year. If I understand this correctly, you will do a transition because I think you're outside of the EU. And you will have taxing on some of the products that goes into the EU. The transition period stuff was over, really. But that was the nine months thing that's just finished. But there's a kind of deal some sort of now. Okay. Well, because I think that the part where you require a vote, these seem to visit the rest of the EU. And also the part where everything is tax that goes in and out from the EU is not in effect. Directly after the end of the year. But it should be an effect until summer heard on the news or something. Well, I might just get a Swedish passport that I'm entitled to because I was born there. I'd be nice to learn. You see in case that that queue is like the EU. And no way as well. Other things. It's like EU and no way in Switzerland. And then yeah, EU and no way in Switzerland. And then it's like, you're the rest of the world over here. And the UK has to go in that queue now, if I think. Although at the moment with apparently banned from the UK with any way. Well, that's what I was reading. Yeah. I think the UK is pretty much banned from every country outside of the UK at the moment. But I don't really understand it because the strain didn't come from the UK. It just spread there. So people cannot take this to the UK. South African, South African strain and maybe UK strain. I don't know. I thought it was the South African strain that come to the UK and then spread like wildfire in the UK. And therefore the UK is banned. But I thought that South Africa would be banned as well from the rest of the world. Probably not. It was, well, I mean, I mean, the French banned lorries the other week from Britain. Because of this as well. Hmm. You're the yellow. Who's the most normal? Yeah. Yes. He even low on you. You're the only boss. You're the only me. Yeah. Because you're the one. Some of those. But here is the one you again. I'm glad I found this headset. I'm a spy. Is it like I said it all the time? Sounds like it's power. Oh, do you just talk low today? I didn't have low I am on that. I'm talking with my lab. I hope I'm coming off. Yes. You come out today. You talk low though. Oh, you turn it up more after you start talking. I think. Close them alone. So they headset works fine now. Yeah. You're coming so. You're not as high as the Swedish person but you are totally fine for me. Well, I'm always loud. It doesn't really matter what in what medium. Oh, so you talk low and have a low mic. Do I have a loud mic as well? I can turn it down. But I know that I talk loud. So therefore I usually have to do some audio settings. But because this is a new setup, I haven't really handled with it. Oh, no, you're not talking as loud because he's more quiet. And no one else talks. So it's because he's low. I'm not sure how low I am. I cannot tell myself. No, but you sound fine. But I hope I don't blow your ears out with my speech. So that's not the point. No, it doesn't do that, but you are very close to that zone. Well, I will see if I can turn it down a bit. If I can figure out this, there are also many switches on this. I'll be input thing here. That's interesting. Yeah. Turn it down on my ear. Hi. Ten percent. Yeah. Is it better now? Turn it down on the ear. It was about 50 percent or something. Yeah. Turn it down to, I think it was at 75 before and now it's down to 50. Yes, that's right. Wow. I guess you just have a random guess. Because it's kind of... It sounds like it's half the volume it was, but it's probably not it. Well, by colleagues, you should think that my dog, perhaps they just have that speaker. Hmm. I usually have to turn the volume down quite a lot when I record, because else I will blow out the speaker. Well, I have to do a lot of sound mixing. Yeah. No, I can... Then I try to hear after, no, I can hear it. You're cutting out. It's done. You're still talking. Hmm. Maybe I didn't know to hit it and you were talking so high. I think I have to turn that down as well, then. Maybe you let go, right before you stop talking. I just now said that one is in chat. Saying just now saying that green and then... I think some more of just going to in the area. Yeah, okay. Very clear. Greenland and Praya. Ponte del gada and Mindelo and a few others there. So happy new year to all of you. Happy new year, I guess. I have a Monday, you have a new year's resolution. I either have completed or want to do. My new year's resolution is not to make any more new year's resolution, so I know I have to stick to that one. I actually have a new year's resolution for last year, and I complete happy about that. I think I will continue my new year's resolution was not to drink alcohol for you. Yeah, the new one is to wear face masks all the time in public in the other sleeves and during it. No, I could actually do that as well. I like wearing masks, I don't mind it. It's just that my passes pull go over, and that's really annoying, but perhaps the strips will help me there. I've gotten used to the glasses fogging up. At this point it's, I just ignore it. Have you tried rolling up the bottom of your mask to where it sits on your chin and opens up the holes on the side a little bit bigger? Bye that. I think that to get the best protection you should actually have. A one thing how many people used full masks. One thing I thought that I really liked was when I went to the hairdresser. They actually used face shield. That's something that sits on the chin, close up over the mouth and above the up to the eye line. I like the hairdressers. Even hairdressers have been closed here because of COVID. On the bars, I don't know. And some food shops is some restriction back and forth. There they are. I think that actually a face shield. They had transparent face shield. I think that's what the face shield does. Because it goes down the bottom anyway. It goes down the bottom, but you will not spray your customers with droplets. They all go in too. Definitely not. I believe that my wife is using face shields. You fall from the top of your head and all the way down. That's where just when they had normal patients were in the tent where they had the law of the COVID but have food like moon it's so quiet time again I'm still here I'm just right up the subject and I'm all ready to talk Ah you were stunned at your mask and thing I don't know where if I will add anything to it I thought it wasn't that No, we could talk about mass even more So there's about three different types I believe There's the bait about if any of these masks actually work or to work standing But I could which one's the best and I don't know if he can debate all night It's so funny if all people use magic and if I know they doesn't work I saw some I don't know about the percentages but that's something like if you Air mask at the other person to I went to percent if Other person where is mask they are protected to Oh, where mask you are both protected to like five percent It's good though what percent you the time in the thing is it Master's always act you the mass protects them from you. Yeah, exactly So if the other person has a mask they are protected to 60 percent which is a lot less protection than But if you have it you or at five percent if you get used to a mask you can keep it and use it after it mostly gave That that was but I think in England or the UK It started in Wales and includes in the online and when they get the chance to think most people are going to chuck them out into the bin And that's that basically although few might want to keep it going but longer they have the choice I just find every brandly where are people So you have a one-use mask you're doing each day That's correct. Yeah, I have a cloth mask a few cloth masks that I use and I after Using them for the day I wash them so I meant to be pushed to end. No, I do not have a cloth mask I have a latex a latex free mask that came out of a box Wash it right out where it's the next day Yeah, at this point the I have the mask I was sent a mask a couple of masks From a care package from our the insurance that I have to do work and I have a few other masks that I purchased off of Etsy So at this point, it's like underwear you wear you wash it You know For my work site the the face shields are banned for my work site and pull over masks like a scarf are banned from my work site the owner We should wear yeah, they gave Provided mask they provide us with our latex mask and I'm allergic to latex There's no other option. I went bought some latex for time to waste them. Oh The latex pre I see. Yeah, I have four masks for the four people in our seldomly out With people so my wife is a nurse so she often goes to the hospital of course and and they have protected gear there of course But we seldom leave our house at all Nobody at school wears mask. Yeah, for the vote on thing We yeah, and then he was talking about the glow text We kind of how you thought they are to do the spying thing or their gloves or do both I didn't think about that because it's not so You're learning to see it but it's not the force or the places and Hospital I think if you get caught in public here without a mask on Be fine $300. You get caught writing in a vehicle with someone that's not in your important quote Bubble we get find a thousand oh That's you can see like that's what's like in the England as well If you you might get find if you're caught with a mask that's you can truly also certain that you're Exempted or basically although although in reality I think the police apparently the police just are better things They've been most part so it's more a threat. I think then that's all you're going to get find But there's a chance you might this is a small town community like place here So the police have nothing better to do than to drive around these finds then there's ten a day at least It's a easy way for them to reach their quota of tickets I spent this being a few big pals he used tonight I've been a few we got I wonder if the work at the places where you are in the public or do you work from home some of you I work from home I work from home and When we we were talking about it my boss was actually looking into how we should do After COVID and how many people want to go back to the office and he found some research that were done In the eye to sector and they said that 90% of the people that works from home want to work from home and stay working from home off the COVID So they are actually figuring out how to end the lease of our Officers as we only have one office left now. We had three years earlier So we wouldn't mostly work from home up and even off the COVID believe I believe I would like the option to work from home But I don't know if I'd wanted always work home at my company the way my team works is Before COVID we were working from home four days a week. We went into the office one day a week Since code we've been working from home every day and they're looking at adopting the model from my team through the rest of the company And having more teams where they just come in that one day a week so they still get that face time together You still get that socialization You're working from home most of the time and they can actually Reduce office footprint in the process What about the people that work in liking it industrial setting like myself? I work at a tissue plan And we got some some people in our company to work in the labs in the the physical material handling that yeah They're in the office and they've been in the office who everything that's going on But for anybody who doesn't have to be they're gonna try to use this model throughout the company for us I work as a Tech at a school and we basically are set up in different regions. So we have a supervisor for our region When all this started here in Miami They when they went into lockdown We basically had We became we basically became Texas Desks support like tech support like you know We would have to we get emails from the teachers or or they would send an ticket and we would contact them Either through teens or through zoom, which is how they were how the district had preferred doing it As time passed they gradually had us come back in because we had to get things ready for the supposed school year that was coming up So we gradually started rolling in Started to get things ready Things changed day by day But yeah, eventually we did end up coming back to the schools and of course we had to have the PPE It's been a somewhat of a disaster in my opinion, but you know We're getting by as best we can My kids are doing the whole school from home. Yeah, mine as well As a matter of fact my two youngest which were who are still in the K through 12 system They they actually opted to go back. They wanted to go back But after they went back after a few days they said no mom people are stupid Put us put us yeah exactly put us virtual and they've been virtual since of course My eldest who loves to just be on the computer and do everything there is He's he's super happy about doing everything remote. He doesn't even want to drive to the college I kids are a younger so They are still at school thinking that the best option is to be at school About with about 440 students or five under students or something So it's not a huge school, but it's it's large So they have actually looked every week for the guidelines from our minister How we should handle schools and they have prepared everything for home schooling So you either have work at home or if you have a computer You can do virtual learning from home. So everything is set up and ready to go But so far they haven't got the go signal from The community to say that okay, you need to do home schooling So so far we are still doing go to school Sort of ran into a reverse problem that some of you have been running into my kids for home school all the way through High school the graduate my youngest one graduated last year and she's now going to a College and it's she's been Challenge trying to get into the college because they keep trying to shut down all the different colleges in the area I think all the colleges in Sweden are still homeschooling or Varcho because at that age you should have or you usually have the Does the know how to work for your own or and you often have the Whitman to do virtual school and well She's my youngest daughter is to got a triple major going on right now What one of the majors being dance and so that's something that you can't quite do virtually I'm sure if you can be creative and actually do dance virtually I have to ask my wife there as well to teach to teach dance for a couple of years Some things you can do on your own, but there are other things that you have to interact with a partner for and that part can't be done virtually I think I think with dance you probably didn't do it virtually But I was gonna say we were school stuff and So talking about a UK of course So in the first lockdown they closed a whole education bound Yeah, university schools colleges the whole lot and then it opened up But now because they're worrying about this second What reputation is basically because Christmas holiday now, but it's about to finish or should finish But I think the primary school or I forget you say at elementary in America They're gonna come back I believe on Monday as normal most of them unless they're in this tier for possibly some of those But then they're gonna say the secondary schools by now is who weeks and the college is and and And of the SM students back maybe a little bit earlier than the rest of them and it's and then they got and the people giving the government advice the scientists They're just like play the school just haven't played all down right But This is just a mess all of this here. The problem with closing those schools for the primary kids I have four small children two of which in primary and you close that down to nurse so it's now are There's folks to learn from home. I don't work from home. I work. I work out in in the plant How are both the wife and I to work the kids and if there's no more yeah, that's basically it is If the if the if the school kids aren't going to school then effects parents as well and what they're doing and and I should be very lucky that I can work from home and I also have a company with a well very large Attitude against work. Only thing that they require is that you do the work not when or where I need to homeschool my kids The whole day and then work on the evening. That's just fine. I mean, that's one thing that's physically impossible My perfect understand that and the Okay, here they they want to close this well go the government will close the schools as kind of Lax was all although might delay it, but they they're in trying to keep those open so they'll close the pubs and that in the stairs in the meantime, but education kind of comes first, I guess, but Just that yeah, it's just all a mess in a way If I were in the situation where I needed to go to work and of course my wife as a nurse needs to go to work Then I thought well well my parents could have the kids, but they are about 70 so they are in total quarantine We don't talk to them We are visiting them with but we have this for meters of the distance between us We are when we are talking we are sitting down at their portion with they sit at one end and then we sit on the other end and then we And let each other so we are not really meeting them so they can't really take care of the kids either That's who watches our kids as her parents my parents very far, but that becomes really difficult to increase How about the interpretation of single-family bubble? But if you say eight people then you are of a lot, I guess and again my Very defined the single family household bubble as anyone that has a permanent address Within your resident if they are permanent address on their license it's different from your or address on your license Your subject $2,000 fine if they are caught in your house without them Yeah, yeah, people like to read on people Okay, okay, we are a bit low. So my apparently Yeah, that is a certain cat Time to make for them up a bit possible Oh, not possible for me. I don't know where the microphone adjustment is Is that any better? It's own different. I'm using a Bluetooth headset so I don't know I'll find the button. So Bluetooth headset has a cold bite, right? Something like that. I don't think you took a little bit. I'm also seeing low because the kids are in bed. Yeah, that doesn't help. Probably I'm detached from the house I can scream in here if I like that. I'll teach the kids for getting you out Exactly I went outside. I'm going to do some testing. Is it louder when I speak here? Yeah, but I'm just kidding to be myself. I think I'm still louder Well, that may do. Do I sound a little different now? No. I pretty much the same as before Yeah, but if you're not low then you'll come through Bowling clear. So I guess the only reason that people didn't hear a cobra was that he spoke after Yeah, I thought cobra's cobra twos volume was fine. Yeah, I think it's a twos, but I It's just a cold note. It's the same level hey Not seeing you in a long time So you and I think I was on this morning and earlier this afternoon Well, my time zone Yeah, I was No, in the middle I think you was one of the people I talked to then Rocked on started if I'm not Yeah, this is an amblingy or Nick bits on the nose. It could be when this started I was still sleeping When this started I listened a little bit beginning and then did other things that forever No, no today. I mean a comet and the comet locked on started Yeah, because if you were sleeping in the whole comet period Mm-hmm, then there's the sleeping on the bed. I would be very well rested if that were the case now. Yeah. No, no, no. I'd probably not no I haven't been on the mumble the HCR mumble Up until now. I have recorded episodes here and there, but as far as doing The live chat like right now, not until today Last year about last year that's oh, yeah, if you mean yeah In that sense Yeah, last year would be yeah, yeah, last year would be the last time that I was on this So then the comet's dot last year was you one of the third people in half or was you one of the regulars in here on in on here when they when it started And because I remember Colour plus far was one of them. I think you're nine is you're nine is Premier but I'm not recommending from what place yeah, yeah, I mean I've recorded some episodes for HPR And then just recently I did something with Pat from the Linux link texture so that won't came up. I think that that episode was on the 28 so that was just a couple of a few days ago So are you doing it the inside this place or something like that somewhere? So why else now? I think so I think the Linux link texture guys have their own Mumble server. I don't I could have sworn it was on here. I could be wrong I didn't see in the list, but yeah, we had connected that way. I guess through their own mumble server So with remember I'm here and this is a mumble challenge. It's probably only useful one thing is each and One the first day for one yeah Yeah, I guess well this is let's I don't know if it's maybe used to use a new issue or not Yeah, what one number them for one thing one year one day Is that the first day of each Yeah That's a problem. It's a couple days. I have problem saying my handle can ask whether it's The serial brand in Sweden. So I guess it's hard to pronounce but I'm done don't you a person so Can just call me down. No, but I think who'd hang on I didn't need the name you got now is is a serial We didn't that yeah, it's a serial brand in Sweden. So it's yes, I was honey pops. I was yeah, I was no I mean I can read it the Swedish bit so enough so I was thinking okay yeah, but I didn't think that oh it actually is a serial okay But call us could be a name No, I think you need to remove an A yellow to the class if you want to have a name Yeah, I think during the start of the COVID we also had a lot of regular shots Where we were talking about our different situations in different regions and different countries and so on and that was very formative so was Call you do end in there or did do I remember one I'm not remembering who was in all I remember some names but I talked to many people I remember you but I'm hopefully that with name so yeah I remember you being the only Swedish guy that they come regular It's always good to have something special about more more regular you are it was a category and then go that guy. Did it defeat the man how non-smank and Fata Svenskem made their first door I'm not sure if we we should talk Swedish at the moment but Well, no but Good man here made yourself too much but But my point was it's nice when you talk to some means really short or you got some means we could have some of the kind of little bit after I was halfway there so it's got some links in my So you sound like you're a good Swedish if you're not leaving or talking yet If you're from Sweden it you can hear the difference what you It's yeah, first we're very good. I'm not the point Sweden so I cannot tell the difference Now I've been there but I've lived in England so I was free really so yeah I'm on my mom Swedish so does she talk Swedish at home then she we we I'm growing up it was very much like you know you don't speak English your mom She should always be Swedish with Swedish plus to be going over to visit more more They're quite grandma and they're yeah Like every summer or nearly every summer so we those times we've gone now that's that's the past But I'll be over there in the summer a lot before and then you you obviously Taking Swedish then as well and So you go and yeah, two languages yeah, I don't I don't write Swedish very well Do that's that doesn't know me a little bit time because I didn't really learn to read why it properly I can read it better now But but but then you got the free letters at the end the same with German those all our early A would one that the A would two dots and the O would Two dots you don't get those in English But you're doing Swedish and German and stuff as well So that computer a little bit as well the on-lance I think they're called and in Germany I think I think the same for Swedish. Yeah, so we don't have those guys, but you So that's one of those things that I didn't really learn either properly, but And then you get names like Björn Which obviously they only translate English anyway very well with without spell and everything But if you have the Abbas you're everybody's calling them Björn Abbas yeah, Abbas actually Björn from Abbas it was one Björn But in the funny for part is if you have different regions of Swedish you talk differently and from Gothenburg When you're speaking different specific words you add extra omelettes to different words So you you talk with a lot of princess air in in Gothenburg for instance there is this fish Search you should probably say irgan in Swedish But in Gothenburg they are saying hash irgan Yes, that's some of the things when they when they pull like and pull some of the Scandinavian Nordic crime for us on the East on BB4 in the UK sometimes They you can see when they're doing the subtitles as well and they're trying to translate something this It's just wrong It's just that no that's not what they said that's not not really what they said it's just wrong See the mistakes when you know when you know you know really can understand the food is enough I'm pretty concerned only know two languages I wouldn't love to learn third language, but I think one year is only it's too late Yeah, yeah, well my my the thing is now as well my mum's mother's actually finished, right? So I've got for the second cousin and the stuff like that as well But the thing is she'd never got to talk finish for some reason by her mother And I think she got got annoyed at that time because it's a bit like oh, I could have learned I could then finish as well And that's a hard language to learn apparently as well. It's very that Oh my god. Yeah, they're picking a lot of finished people say it themselves as well Like you know, I'm finished. Oh, that's not going to be very easy to learn this Again, there isn't that I think I think From my standpoint I think if you on sort of the Germanic Language tree it might be easier to learn finished German, Sweden Dutch Then Cypher in since the Saxon or the Goals or the France With I think struggle a lot more to pick up Germanic languages So when you're from Okay, getting to pick up Yes, it's I was going to say that as well as he from I'm a Afrikaans which is kind of Dutch There's this sort of bad connotation some people call it kitchen Dutch, which is Homigration of all bunch of different languages. No, you want to have a friday you want to have a friday That is great I didn't check up on that thing. It's really interesting that it's kind of Dutch because I was watching this YouTuber and she's from Holland and she was Going through this horror game and suddenly they started to talk a very strange language and she said Okay, I can understand this because this is Afrikaans and it's very close to Dutch I understand most of what this person is saying and I was like Those are so far apart those two languages or those countries how can they be the same but that is it that they Coralized or they have Coralized or yeah, it's pretty much that happens very large portion of us Stames from Dutch Then there's a bunch of me like from my lineage. It's more closer to the French being one of the French you do not And but I can also I mean if you talk Dutch fairly slowly, I can follow and I can even reply And I think it might even well, okay my uncle was German so I pick up a lot of a lot from him And I think Finish maybe if they talk like very slowly. I might pick up maybe like say 10-15% of the conversation I can't understand finish for for the life of me if I would kidnap to Finland and Somebody was trying to get something out of me. I would not Well, you might be in the Swedish party because it looks okay Even if they talk to me slowly and I have a little hard time with Norwegian as well, but not as hard I would say I was in the military order Yeah, I was still thinking this as well like I mean I think sometimes Norwegian and Swedish can be quite similar But not always and then Danish is a bit different but you can kind of it depends you can sort of understand them Possibly and then if you wait a different but if you're or in southern part of Sweden Most of the people there talk like they have oatmeal in their throats and if you go to Danish It's the same thing but it gets worse much just it's horrible But it's just because I'm not familiar with the language so that's why I think it sounds very strange So you are from Daly North So no, not in the southern part of Sweden, but if you look at the most populated areas in the northern part There's Norway always at the border to Norway. Oh, you leave it to the border to Norway He's in Gothenburg, you said we have to bore him, which is I'm not the best with the map of Sweden But I believe it's more quite far down in a way Oh, this Sweden is a Yeah, it's far down but it's closer to the Norwegian border than it's to the southern part of Sweden But if you're looking at Sweden as a whole because of the very long country We are very far south of the country No, I'm Oh, there's Swedish towards or there was a Swedish Linux right in Gothenburg as well Can't remember it's cold now, but maybe being to that so how long it'd drive it to Oslo for me or About Power something for us But it's yeah Talk on us at a five hours to talk on so it's shorter to Norway than to oh, yeah I see that this is a nice for me too to Oslo funny enough Yeah, yeah, there's a Swedish so there was a Swedish Linux when in Gothenburg F.S. Collins or something like that. F.S. Collins have been in France and they're also a possible I think Oslo and F.S. Collins is in Sweden, perhaps been in Sweden at least I've been by looked at one year at least I was looking at again Oh, we could get away from that and I thought, oh, I didn't actually play and then you've got a So many of them I were there one year and we're not one of the organises, but I was one of the crew So I helped out a little bit one year But they've told me someone told me it was good online somewhere But yeah That was kind of nice and the as a crew you didn't pay for anything so that was nice too And I think they had at least Which cool that that one of the F.S. people who I think spoke there one year as well, yeah They have a lot of different Smaller use of groups in Sweden A lot smaller and smaller we have one Interesting job a group for a job of who were on the part of I think it's a thousand members or something like that and they actually had a stallman as On the year was very interesting to actually got to both meet him and talk to him I think that that Nicholson or where she called from the FFF or the something like that She I think she's speaking the Swedish she got from Burgervan once as well because she's done being in the UK a little bit as well And then she goes to Brussels and but there's loads of people like that out there Hello everyone. It was nice actually. They had an event. I mean free no had an event right Two years and I was very near to where I live and it was like oh lovely. I can get a bus down here I don't have to go up to Brussels or adding wells. I can just go to a little bit to rent down in my local city But that they need it for two years, but that was nice because normally I have to go to Release some miles I was actually at a passion con this year and that was a virtual event and I was really nice Buck with all the stuff when you're in the local city there. You don't have to travel any well So you just down on bus or whatever and get down there. No, no, oh that's in a city far away And it's a train or something or a plane or if you're like, oh you're going to cash or But you know what I mean It depends if you have kids Or then you have a different Equation there because I was on a Bitcoin in London and it was really nice to be At the conference and not have anything that you really wanted to get back to So you just had your tall hotel room and then you stayed at the conference and did all the things And then you went to bed. There was really tired if I had something in go for a Bitcoin So it's yeah And but if I am going to a local event in Sweden, you always are hurrying home to the family afterwards and then you can't really Enjoy it as much So I think it's quite nice to either have a virtual event or go away Father Sometimes I mean, I don't know I've only been to a few conferences not that many really But I guess sometimes even so Actually, he's even so tall can be better than the actual conference day at times, I guess I feel like you're not talking about a time from a hundred I feel like you're not talking about a time from a hundred years ago, right? I actually went to VidCon in February just before COVID hit So I was actually a little bit scared that I picked something up in London and took it with me home So you are going to fill us on to probably go to an event in yes I think VidCon was in like the last part of February, so it was like the 25th, 26th, 27th or something like that I think I'm home and you're home I love what Joe said, yeah, yeah, conferences, it's all the past so it's that's the like time before yeah Before the event But then again, you have the possibility of the virtual events, so I have been to more conferences this year than Earlier years because I have gone to a lot of virtual events Yeah, but you probably the the last the guy that's been on a Live in a very very very very long time One thing happened many years before it become really not the big thing to go to a real event anymore I think given it another year, I think this time next year will all be excited about the Very events that we're going to be going to I don't think there will be a lot of events this year and I don't think that we're most of the restrictions will be lifted this year X year I'm hopeful This year is probably the be a whole billion for events going Oh, I do you still so good Are you in tier 4 Joe? I think you're yeah, but England as well, I think yeah, yeah, I'm in London tier 4 to the max and yet I live near one of the busiest roads in London and it The level of traffic on that road tells me generally like the movement levels in the city and it is the busiest I've seen it in months tonight despite the fact that our levels of COVID in hospitalizations as stuff are through the roof and like worse than April Williams at the peak, I mean it's just going to be a disaster Give it a week or two or three weeks, it's just going to be horrible here Yes, it's crazy in there Hello, I'm here free here and actually I was doing a place in the southwest of England in tier 3 for a while And now they've put a load of other places and it will and with some fall as well Yeah, and it's the fact that you're here tells me that you've been responsible tonight and died at harm, you know, that's the thing to me about all this stuff is you have all these people who are out Where you are, Joe in London just driving back and forth doing all their regular New Year's Eve things In spite of all the rules and regulations that have been put in place and it's just going to come back to bite Yeah, like me and you who are doing the right thing and doing what we're supposed to It's I find it really well, yeah, that's basically it love the younger people and take that like Oh, isn't it carried in the area? Let's go put you down and it's like well, there is apparently and yeah In my area people just even when there are restrictions which there aren't a lot of restrictions right now They mostly seem to ignore them anyway Yeah, I've been to a whole neighborhood where Like I went to pick something up off of Facebook marketplace and I was the only one in the entire neighborhood wearing a mask Mm-hmm Yeah, my mask fatigue here that people I like I was walking around the supermarket another day I died about once a month to get those my wife goes once a week to get food and It was just it was just unbelievable all the people working there We just that had their masks around their chains just didn't care really and this is like a week or two ago when things were still looking pretty bad And just I look around and I just see people just fatigue by they just don't care anymore. It's been nearly a year and they just done They just think well, I just don't care what will be will be and the result of that is potentially catastrophic Yeah, especially with the new strains I don't know Why wouldn't you want to so I go ahead There was quite a horrendous story in South Africa about a month ago, so over year there's a bit of a A culture that when you finish metric I think it's called just the great 12 or it's basically your final school year You get this feeling of inner pain and see jumping a car and you go to the coast of Margaret and then they've got tons and tons of raves and Parents allow their kids to go and join these massive parties with their stay for like weeks All bicycle like a week and you go to these raves stacked with people and That was the launch of our second wave There was four of these parties planned three of them got canceled one winter hit with Thousands and thousands of Young students that just finished school attended and suddenly bam we into a second wave on a on a new strain. It's just because people are Blightenedly ignoring the risk Yeah, because this new strain isn't just here, right? It's down there like it's supposedly new and the UK government used it as a An excuse to cancel Christmas, but my understanding is that you what had had it down there Quite some time ago and it had been generally around for quite a while And it's but yeah people just don't take it seriously especially young people people under 30 just they think well if I get it I'll be fine And that's generally true, right? If you're under 30 and you get it the chances of you being seriously ill or dying a very very long And so people are just selfish and they don't care that they're gonna pass it on to someone who's gonna pass it on to someone Who's gonna pass it on to someone who is at risk and may die or get seriously ill and get long COVID or whatever And you know, I mean, I'm looking now this this is a group of people hanging around One of the local pubs here that they shouldn't be there. They're it's illegal the police around they don't care What can they do and you know What could I do again Yes, it was in London as well. Yeah So bad The UK managed to get our strain somehow which is I think 501 version 2 or something like that a country with exactly the summary from our side went over to England and If I'm not mistaken this now actually a ban in England for traveling from South Africa to England Yeah, I think we are banned from traveling pretty much most places now because of this supposedly new strain Which I think has been around for months, but um, yeah, there's a lot of travel Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a there's generally a lot of travel between The UK and our former colonies like South Africa US Canada Australia in New Zealand so yeah, I mean it's we're a very interconnected world I mean we're all here right now from everywhere in the world Talking on this mumble server and you know, we're the tip of the iceberg in terms of business travel and stuff Like people have continued to move around and and you know We've not had a proper lockdown is the bottom like even when we had a supposed lockdown in March You could still travel for business and stuff and you know I don't know it's such a difficult balance to strike between personal freedoms and the good of society I'm just glad I'm not in charge because People who are in charge have done a terrible job apart from Just in a a hern at hern is it the Prime Minister of New Zealand who seems to have done Excellent job, and I just wish I lived there Try to be a horrible person to be in charge because I just kill everyone So if you had no input or export from country you probably get rid of it slowly I would be horrible to Try to solve any kind of conflict or anything like that because I would just Try to get people to hash it out themselves Of conflicts that I've been thinking about just put all the people that don't agree Some were else and then they have to live with their mistakes. We go so I'm so fed up with people that can't really figure out what this I think the way you said for a little bit about probably you have a wringling then we have to keep put some Girls because yeah But if you think that okay masks is something that we really need to figure out the way to get rid of Yeah, but then create a mask less country and everybody that don't want to wear a mask can live there And spread their COVID and die. I would the rest of the people that want to survive can live in the rest of the world Only life for that simple, eh Yeah, what country should be the Next one is the country That's a beautiful fight with I've got for murica. No, no, no, I say Australia it already has a history of us sending our undesirables there Yeah, I heard about it I heard this was once a time prison is the big prison I always did Yeah, but that's controversial you say because It was like supposedly undesirable people or people who had committed crimes were shipped off to Australia But the reality of that is that there were a lot of people who were just less fortunate or whatever Perhaps harmless or whatever and you know, they were just it was just a good excuse to get rid of the people who The people in power decided were undesirable. It wasn't necessarily criminals I mean, that's the the rumor. Well, they the sort of Axiom that persists is that we shipped our criminals off to Australia But it really it was just people we wanted to get rid of and people who were had no say in the matter Australia in Georgia That man Georgia voted for Biden, so they were all right by me. I didn't vote for him Which probably avoids politics Did you know that it's not for the other guy either? We've been on a dick scamer We should probably talk about Linux and stuff maybe. Oh, politics is there. Yeah, yeah, yeah Either that or let's switch to the religion or something Just get your rows. Well, what are podcasts are you on these days? I know you had a bit of a switch this year Oh, I've had something of the year indeed yes So I've basically right now going into 2021. Well, which it is right now um late night Linux and two and a half admins to dot five admins dot com. They are the two podcasts that are regular things I've done some things over the Christmas break With Drew for August and I'm still working with Chris still very much friends with all the jb crew But um in terms of shows that I am on and hosting Yeah, just late night Linux and two and a half admins and late night Linux extra as well Which like makes in frequent appearances, but there'll be some coming up in the new year Well, anytime I want to get shot is really good again But speaking of of podcasts so um As I said security researcher, I would really like to get more in touch with the blackout communities without revealing exactly mind tensions or the any known podcast for that specific community we Somebody like me that's interested in just the So if human be I fear and studying of of of that With the impact on security can infiltrate community like that and just Yeah Now getting into the community I don't know about but the best place to start When trying to learn about social engineering and Um that type of security is to start reading everything written by Kevin Midnick Yeah, and he's had some wonderful docks on On dead aches and things like that. Yeah, I'm got a huge fan of his I like that all those books come out in audio read by him I was actually just get a audible account. There's just so many books that I would just fall asleep do Yeah, rank up the speed sure when you get your audible account you undear am your books Problem I have is that I have had an audible account for like 10 years and I have a lot of books Have a dread yeah, I suppose that's out the side of that Great Did it trial a while ago? I initially read ready player one Shortly after that initially came out And then just before the movie I decided to take the audible book I was pleasantly surprised when What was his name? Will we didn't yep, well, we are Yeah, when he read that that was such a fantastic and then he even mentioned himself on the book He read that as well He also read ready player Was he scattered in in Star Trek? What's the crush right? Ah, there we go. Yeah, he's also a bit beer brewer Yeah, there's some guest spots in what the big bang theory. He had his own TV show for a little while I think I've also done a lot of YouTube Things yeah, ran the he was on the guild. I remember that Funny what he talking about there is content taken The attention economy I also think YouTube is experiencing a bit of a boom at the moment, which is going to burn out I predict within the next year or two. Well, everybody's stuck at home. Well, not everybody, but most people are stuck at home So there's a lot more time to watch YouTube videos or create them or create them Yeah, I've noticed that I've personally Increased YouTube consumption quite considerably, but then at the end of a video I feel really disappointed at what I've been watching and the kids as well Things have really get me down as people like PewDiePie and Mr. Beast with basically junk content Making millions of views and millions of dollars compared to something like By zero is a zero bite and it's got a couple of a hundred thousand views or that Big bang has thrown also begin to the chemicals and things And the guys that really give educational Videos is highly underrated, but these like Brainless date content is making lots of millions of views on a single video. I don't get Kids people want to learn people want to be entertained kids probably will get over and over again That's my kids watch the same music video over and over and over again So that gets a ton of views I self I watch a lot of brainless Game videos because I've well to chill and so on, but I create educational content I've created about eight hours at least 13 videos this month I'm pretty sure the views algorithm for YouTube only counts the first view from an IP address But remember IP address has changed because it's mostly dynamic. Yes, but you know I still think that those rack-up reviews because of a lot of kids that watch them Okay, you see that you've got a educational YouTube channel, which you mind sharing the link for that What's your content sort of about the links and that sort of programming most of y'all That is my flavor. I'm going to see a Java developer for one of the major banks in South Africa so y'all might definitely be interested in that You're not the hour skip to the old y'all or thing. Do other y'all or thing It's mostly just YouTube and then my name There you have the link Sweet awesome I also think and this is just me a thing Java might be heading towards is end if you look Things like how Kotlin okay, it's still using the JVM But how Kotlin is gaining momentum and you know other other sort of Non-curly bracket languages based on on the JVM and things like that so It's definitely I've seen a drive even if you look at that Contemporary I think it's stack overflow one of those guys that do the the writings and it seems like Python and Kotlin things like that are definitely gaining popular If you look at like that you you have I believe a billion people running Companies with Java based applications and you have As many or even more people writing whole operating systems in sea But both those two languages are considered dead at a moment because there are so many news Exciting languages that you might want to run instead but in my case I've looked into Kotlin. I've looked into the rust. I looked into a lot of different Different things and I also done a lot of the videos about them and I think when it comes to actually producing things It's more important to have a stable environment than something that it you can create good code With then the newest hottest things so I think Java will be around for a long time But they get the languages evolving and I have done a lot of videos about Different says in the new releases and as they have added to the release cadence So it actually every six months that you get an update and there is a lot in there So I think the language is on an update But as I understand Kotlin is again a popular language Not something that I really enjoy writing code in Yeah, and I can definitely agree with that My go to a stall spring boot and Java if I need to build something for a client via the microservices or like some other service or utility It's just maybe it's the comfort zone and I know that I can do it fairly quickly But yeah, I mean it's just so easy to get something going you Start a Java application, rapid and spring boot and everything is just Let's fast and you can accomplish anything within a couple of hours You also have the community and I don't really like people that say okay this language is so good You can write things that are very thirst and very very fast to write That is very hard to read and then when you look at Stack Overflow There is nobody talking about the language and nobody solved anything in that language and when you don't have the community Around the language is very hard to actually work with it because sometimes you run into problems And if you are running to Java problem and search for it there is an answer for it Any error that you come across within a 30 seconds to a minute you'll have an answer I would like to write more C code or or native code would be really fun to get that going again Or perhaps learn rust because I think that's a language that actually can I only experienced with C was back in the day when I tried to write a Underlit utility and submitted the radar to include into your radar What's at 4.7 or whatever comes after that and after that I left it for a bird and then The only place where I'm using it now is when I'm messing around on our doinger Are the only real project I wrote in C was a spam filter? Oh, yeah, you're definitely on the on the good side one of the other things that we've worked on Was a little sea utility that takes a fat partition well both of them you scrambled the first one Then you copy it over the second one and then that's where it does that way destroy our drive But that was like many years ago. I don't have dog impulses like that anymore Yeah, if we are talking about dark impulses and things that you wrote when you were a teenager that it's pressed Not something that you can charge me for anymore I wrote a lot of the assembler code that we wrote a little program but was very interesting that you started it up and put it in a specific mode Then it would hide itself on the sea drive and if you did a deer listing on it wouldn't show the program and it would hook on Different interrupts in the Colonel, so it could actually read your keyboard and type that down to a file on your seed drive that also were hidden from deer listings So we should get a password and why you'll spend what was a little bit of a virus But you had to install it yourself, so it was not nothing that spread but it was there to be in the book drum and Read all the passwords that were entered or all the keystrokes that were entered actually got the admin password of our schools that way and Just to be funny we took that password typed it out on a eight three Paper and put it on his door and off of that we got the special accounts at the School with extra hardest drive space because he wanted to keep a track on off. Oh, those are always fun And put here in like 92 there about in our computer class The year after us they started teaching Pascal, but for us it was still basic and in the one day I just wrote like a little fake sea prompt Um, we if you type things like dirt it would say you know it will reply with something like This time I don't feel like it or you know just crap like that Just run this thing across all the machines and then on the next class. It's just chaos We had one of those where we typed something in that actually locked the computer and you needed It said that you needed to contact the customer supported Microsoft So they had some very well-dressed men there and changing the computers and Reinstalling them that was an interesting time as well and we also route wrote this little program that could pick people from Network what was called the novel network or something like that no well network I think it actually was just that you Spam the network queue and told it that the spam came from their IP address or their their Session and then they were kicked out. Yes, the protocol was IPX And there was another rapid around that our consumer what that was Nick Nick, Nick Buey was on Microsoft implementation of that You remember sitting up Little networks like that using old BNC Coax network cable and then Doing games like what's at the command and conquer and you can you come 3D? Oh, we did it to you can 3D we actually around the first doom on them but With the only computer room that we could do that in only had 286 So there were terribly slow and we actually had to run it in with a minimized screen So you had the postage stamp of a screen to run around and Break each other in but there was still kind of fun Well, it beats the old I don't know if you guys had a rattling playing with you when you play it via serial or parallel board No one game that we did that was Dune two which was sort of the first Strategy type game, but there was no blocks of it. So yeah to select each soldier soldier Then right click on a target and say attack Actually destroyed a mouse with that Yeah, but I think you could actually play that over the network with some patch Because we played it first with the serial connection or a cone connection and then we Had some patch that you can actually run it over the network. Would you could only stay Play two people still Oh, those with the times are that's still the games that I prefer. I mean, I'm still into the old Sierra games and things leave these modern things They Except for maybe far cry. I'm just not into them Yeah, I'm into the puzzle games mostly At the moment I'm playing some Are online Grinding Korean thing, but usually I just play That are not strategy or you play with anyone else you just go around and solve puzzles in the 3D environment I love those guy in the games. I got the VR headset as well So now I can actually stand in a room and then manipulate things So one of my favorite game series is the room Kind of puzzles that are mechanical. So you actually have to move things the slight things over and so on in order to solve puzzles I really love those games That is my that it would definitely be my thing. I just don't have a machine capable of running VR I've been still running a 2014 Mac mini as my main machine and then my work machine isn't a DELL Something of the other You see there's no serial numbers on you Which I'm actually not using at the moment, but yeah I really would love to get into VR but yeah, the startup cost for that is just too much I got that for my 484 or when I came 40 So that birthday I got the Lowens to or my my wife said you may buy that if you want so I spend a lot of money on myself that year For me that all I have to start with building a Ryzen machine with 32 gigs of RAM Maybe one of those PCIe hard drives and you know things like that You know, it's first build a machine capable of Enjoying VR and then there's the actual VR equipment as well. So yeah, that's gonna be quite a bit Yeah, yeah, I'm going to repurpose an old server the lot of RAM My computer The server line around I actually had an extra job So I did some consulting for my old company For I think to months or something I got enough to buy a piece of the computer back then I think it was three or four years ago That it's a what 12 core and the 32-year game memory and the Really nice graphics card and so on otherwise I wouldn't have that kind of capability either When I have a machine that powerful I'll be too tempted Not to play games and just do security analysis, you know trying to track some boss or it's trying to track some ashes Things like that. I mean the security stuff just Drows me in like a like a magnet. I can totally understand that but my my one of my best friends has a virus library at his home I run a lot of different machine learning tasks on my computer I have another friend that really like password hazards and have a large library of that. So We're all nerding out in our own field. Did you had your friend pass that information to Jason Scott at archive or because I bet there's a lot of history in all those different files a lot of history and a lot of history in the the virus library Yeah, and he he has a virus library that is light light large and he runs all the virus vendors different software every I believe and does a sum up on which of them actually catches the viruses in these library as a web page for that where he it does those those kind of words. I don't know if he if he is keeping up on it when during covid or if he because he has started work for one of these Swedish government agencies absolutely not allowed to continue that side hobby Yeah, I don't know. I actually worked for the Norwegian government earlier so or they'll yeah Norwegian defense department I think. So I have had a lot of interesting jobs And the background I've been checking out your YouTube channel and I see you are quite active on advent of code I started off with quite a big bang and then worked over and as the holiday started I just couldn't find the energy to complete them but yeah I think maybe next year when I'm well-rested I'm still going to complete all these puzzles this year was my first one and then still see if I can finish all of them. So you're going to write our dear before you're going to do something Yeah, I just want to still I want to sleep until you know 11 AM and it's now 43 in South Africa and I'm still wide awake so yeah it's a bit different. This is our relaxed. Actually it's three 24 here so one hour less but are you usually I'm up to two at least and then I sleep to nine. Yeah so it's feeding is GMT plus one. I'm in the same zone as Germany's which is GMT plus two. So you're saying the time zone on Germany then you should be the same as you. Yeah yeah Germany is GMT plus one. Also I had that in grip. Might be you something to do with the summer time I guess because it doesn't have some time then you have a different time. Oh it has some more time. So it's two o'clock there you are at. You know I think it's at four. Oh well so it's what actually one more hour. Okay it's extremely late. Well I'm working my way through a Merlot dry rate so hopefully sleep will come eventually. I have Merlot dry rate sweat. Merlot is a red wine and so actually I think it's probably in other areas as well but it's one of my favorite wine. I'll put some effort so you're trying to think you're dead sleep. I don't feel yeah I do that probably the little more than I should. As I said earlier I haven't had any alcohol this year last year and I'm here. Yeah that's been a nice inspiration. I'm planning to try another year and I see I can do that too. I think brother and mother had a horrible year with the alcohol and stuff and it turned me off quite hard to it so I haven't time it touched it this year at all. I have a quite large whisky collection as well that I really enjoy but I I really don't like the aftermath of alcohol. I happen to have a really convenient kind of intolerance to alcohol so most of the time it stops me from drinking too much. In my case it's just one beer and then I'm not really functional off of that. I really hate it. That's you and drink the more you feel it. I believe that's the problem in the video that my son's up really. I'm sorry that the problem with beer is actually brilliant for quenching the thirst. You have a really cold, dry, especially low alcohol beer. Like one of my favorites is beer from a mobier which is a 2% beer. Man I can chuck those things down and it's not good for the belly and I've had a bit more through it of that through this year and I can see it in my wife I can see it in my BMI that's shot up through the roof and yeah it's just something needs to happen in 2021. So you don't drink water you drink beer instead. I would do water like three or four times during a day but we currently in like the hottest part of summer. It's December and January it's just like in science like almost 33132 degrees Celsius almost every day and you know jumping into the pool cracking a beer. I mean it just works. I would hate the thing that I put the thing down. Yeah I mean the European blood in me is probably still quite prevalent because personally I prefer temperatures around 18 maybe 17 degrees. That's where my happy spot is. I'm in short loads you know anything from 13 degrees Celsius upwards. I only start putting on jackets when it starts dropping below 13. We have five degrees outside now and that is on the colder scale but you can still just have a short jacket on and hard part was zero and it's reasonably warm. And if you're in Gothamburg the hard part here is the humidity because it's very close to the coast and a lot of humidity and you actually get cold. You get really cold. So it's very wet. And the same goes for in summer if it goes above let's say 23 25 degrees you are sweating and wet all the time you can never keep dry. So you close you feel like you've been cooked all right. I will have a friend that actually went to Lule or somewhere very north in Sweden and where at college there and he said that it's not really that cold even if it's 40 degrees minus up there it's still very cold but you can't feel it as much because it does go under the clouds like the wet weather in Gothamburg does. So he thought that let's say 20 degrees minus up north was about zero in Gothamburg. Very different kind of cold when you have the humidity as well. At this point I'm longing for that. And I really hate when it gets warm. So if the global warming is getting worse I'm thinking of actually moving to Norway or something so I can get further north. Greenland is maybe your answer. That's long as they have filled in to that collection. I'm happy anyway. I think in today anything then make or more you can get by on. Yeah but at the moment I have fiber and at least 200 megabits. So and I have my YouTube channel also on and I don't really want to go down to 10, 50 perhaps. Yeah I'm sitting on 10 meg but you know this is Africa. So 10 meg is sort of the average and then when you get to 20, 50 or I think 100 is our maximum then you really start to buy premium rates. 10 megs for me at the moment. I mean it's comfortable. I can stream Netflix from my wife's machine, my machine and the kids can stream on the Xbox awesome at 10 years and it just goes. With normal 10 IT quality I think it will probably not work with 4K but you know for our needs it's probably sufficient. I know that I'm privileged and that we at least have too much. Yeah just for our needs but when you work from home and you have a YouTube channel and you move large files it's the time you have to wait for up and down that is really sad. And most of my I don't really think there's something like too much bandwidth that's a myth. Perhaps most of my streaming I do from my phone and that's on the phone network so there I only have 6 megabits. Then again I'm alone there. So only then you talk about having terabytes you can start to think about having too much. It's coming, wait for it. I heard on the news today that they are actually removing the copper network in Sweden now so everything should go over fiber. Some communities are really up in arms because their home phone is getting removed premature, surely and some people lose their internet because they are removing the copper wires that actually provided the internet to them. I do not agree with removing the copper lines and replacing them with fiber. You should have both. Yeah but it's weird and they are removing the copper wires because the maintenance was too much and they also had a hard time to actually find replacement parts some of the switches and so on. We definitely had the same problem in South Africa. If you go to talcum which is our main talcum provider which is kind of government owned they really do not want to install new copper. They're not removing it yet but ideas L actually became more expensive than fiber so they really want us to move on to fiber rather. So an extra taxon than odd stuff. Yeah and the problem is with our exchanges for ideas L which is so sometimes like up to six kilometers away. If you pay for a 10 make ideas L you most like you're only going to get six make just because of a floor noise or whatever that was called the interesting thing up here where I live on my street I think I'm one of the 10 houses or something in my neighborhood here of houses that actually got fiber in the first wave and it was like thousand euros to install fiber in your house and I saw it like an investment for the future if I were to sell the house then it should have fiber but we have a lot of people that are older here that thought that the investment was not a good one and they are thinking twice now that the copper wire is removing it's not really. That was just like 10 years ago something like that. It's it moves far from the problem. The problem I have with the copper being removed is when you remove the copper there's nothing you're relying on the home to power the phones and to power the lines and power the end devices. Fiber doesn't carry any power. If it's not carrying any power you don't have a phone when the power is out. Yeah but again if the power is out you don't have any phone anyway because we don't have any phone at the we only have the mobile phones and that goes from most people actually in Sweden my parents had a copper phone wired to their house last year but they removed it this year as well and they were so your entire phone base in Sweden is moving from copper land lines to mobile phones. That's pretty much it. I don't I know very few people that actually have a home phone. Sweden is a good country that has no home phone and no doorbells. My home has no doorbell. I think we have a doorbell. We kind of have the same years at Africa we're private homes do not have copper phones anymore. We just use mobile. It's actually cheaper calling mobile to mobile than it is calling mobile to land line. The only guys that actually still use copper phones or large companies with switchboard. If I were to install a copper line phone at my home I would pay double the price of my fiber connection at the moment. One phone and that's not really reasonable and I thought okay but I could get my phone then so I can dial over that network but that never works. And the only people that call my home phone number is salespeople and I don't want to talk to those people so I don't really know why I would get myself into the trouble and pay extra to get sales calls. Well the sales calls haven't moved to your mobile yet. Yes, I'm going to have the interesting feature of blocking calls. And you all just come up with a private number here. If you often you can just see who calls and then just not answer if there are not in your phone book. So let's buffer if can I interest you in some new insurance? The interesting part is that most people that call me I tell them that if I would like your product or if I would like to have anything to do with you I would either send you an email or mail. That's exactly how it should work. That's exactly how it should work. You know and I've tried all these tricks. I mean guys call me with offered for a new credit card and then I play the games like yes you just on the right time I just lost my job. I need this credit card and I'll max it out in the next two days and then things like that or the insurance guys or one of my favorite things is I'll tell them just hold on and then I'll put the phone down and just next to the phone and just leave them hanging until they realize that this and I'm just playing with them. I, the favorite I like is the people that call and said I want to take all your loans and put them under one umbrella so you pay less for all your loans. Do you have any private loans? No I don't have any private loans. Okay thank you. Bye. Yeah they haven't done the research. Yeah or you can just ask them about the the maths behind it so you know on the current loans my average is maybe 13, 14% interest. What do you offer me? And then suddenly oh wait we offer 22% so give me one good reason why I'm going to go down that route. But I only have student loans and in Sweden those student loans you're actually they're they're so cheap and they are removed if you die so if you have those keep them because they're I pay like 500 the Swedish crown so that's like 50 euros something a month for those and then they are where very large so they don't really matter and then I have my house loan and that you can't move because that is locked to your bank for X number of years so they only think they're looking for his credit card loans or private loans and they can do a difference there if you if they can put them under one umbrella so that's why they are calling but when you say that you don't have any private loans they don't have any business. Yeah but the business also includes having a much larger interest rate and the moment you show that to them then they don't have a sales pitch anymore. I also love those people that call you and want to sell TV and phone and other services to your internet bill like I almost not own TV so I don't know really what you're looking for there but you can get like 50 or 40 sports channels well I I have been exercising a bit but I haven't watched any sports for like 20 years so why yeah that only sports that I'm really interested is maybe a month or a month I love man yeah a month is one of my favorites what's that it's a 24 hour race where they're race through day and night for 24 hours they just keep on lapping lapping lapping and it's quite quite interesting to see how fatigue kicks in and mistakes are made and things like that it's quite interesting and then of course the score really now and so 48 hours it's it's like quarter to four for me and I'm already effentired oh yeah how are you still awake I'm doing this thing which I where I'm staying up all night and all day that's a year ago oh is your dad teaching you a lesson no I'm I chose this oh wow that's that's so I'm so I'm watching nature documentaries on the couch oh go for David Attenborough you'll be asleep in 10 minutes David I was watching David at some Brad just then but then I remembered I had some new some new ones not from 2008 which yeah so decided to watch that about two years ago I was suffering from some severe panic attacks and anxiety due to a project that went haywire and while I stayed at home I just cured every single David Attenborough documentary that I could get my hands on just that soothing voice and it can just get me sane I know right like he has the perfect voice for a next documentary like this other dude he doesn't have the the same kind of voice as like action movie voice yeah and unfortunately I think Bimes running out for Attenborough is he's getting fairly old yeah yeah yeah I love the silence when I'm gonna sleep and actually I've done some of these exercises when you are listening to somebody and should calm down that talks with a really calming voice and try to just give you into a state of calmness I'm feeling like I'm listening to an axe murderer as I get high in the direction of speaking of speaking of sounds when you guys want to get into the zone when programming what are you listening to my personal preference is white noise not music I don't program but when I get into the zone it depends on what kind of zone I want to be in but I listen to a lot of happy hardcore music so it's music that is very high intensity and also very happy of course but the problem with that is that I can become extremely happy and sing along and not focus on the work and so yeah dead silence or perhaps some sound or something like that could be good to get into the zone usually I can power through even with a happy hardcore so not had yet to oh and I think when I code a lot during the 90s I listen to a lot of scooter and those kind of tracks so when I want to come back to a nostalgic vibe I go back to prodigy and scooter and all of those bands I know I can both be happy and productive so what the end or is it then what what type of music I would be in the happy hardcore but I think they were very early on that scene prodigy is more of the punk rock rave kind of band I believe have a third about them at all and you never heard about happy hardcore but do you have on my days so it's a happy hardcore is a rave music with a high ppm and a happy tune some of them are 160 ppm some of them are even higher in in pace in pace well that that's insane yeah I think for me still a white noise when it's because you don't get distracted by the lyrics or singing along or things like that it's just that that constant something in your ear that blocks out everything else and you can truly focus so what type of white noise do you prefer the beatings I would do something else before I upgraded my amplifier I'm using a vacuum valve preamp and it had quite a bit of noise so what I would do is I would just crank the volume and you just get that shh permanently but now I recently made some modifications to that amplifier and now it's dead quiet I can crank up the volume to maximum and there's not a single bit of noise so I just use online white noise generator you can't generate white noise with ffm pickup think I knew I had a white noise generator that worked with that also I think there is a lot of YouTube videos with both white noise and another kind of the sound tracks that are like 24 hours long one of my favorites of those is the the Star Trek series we just have the breach noises without any dialogue and you can choose whether it's the original or it's next generation or whatever and you just get that breach noise I think the the most important part when I'm getting into a zone and I actually want to write some code is to get other things out of my brain that that's the hardest part actually say say to my boss like that if we want to solve a really hard problem I think I need to take a bath because when I take a bath I don't bring anything to the bath I actually sit down and have potent silence and just let my brain work on the problem or just empty the brain out because when you are not thinking about something that's when you actually are getting hit by good suggestions if you haven't had that time that you actually I don't take a walk or take a bath or something and you have a lot of things in your head that you need to keep track of you either have a large shed you'll you need to remember to have a meeting then and so on then you can't really focus on the actual task but I think you need to clear out those things first and then perhaps on music yes and what I mostly didn't do is if if management understands the problem I would tell them listen remove me from any meetings or distractions I'm going to put my phone on silent or even leave it in my room on on charge and I'm going to sit in my office and I'm literally just going to concentrate on the on the problem at that and the birds are starting to chirp and I see the sun is coming up so I'm think I'm going to log off and just try and catch the next sleep well it's five well almost five I am 2021 January 1st so yeah probably if you're not they yet I'm assuming I have been in the new year since I don't use place all right but anyways I'm going to try and see if I can catch about four I'll show if I'm not here again I'll see you next year on the next cause they have been yeah I only discovered this community today so but I think I've never seen around I just want to I want to see if I can move this account away from my VM and just run it from my Mac but yeah otherwise I will join again just using the same username and y'all definitely stick around yeah first of all you guys you know perhaps you can create some shows for a hacker popular radio about the biology behind the video so you have each stop okay I think you talked about that we're interesting in the hacker the black hats psychology part oh yes yes yes yes that's something definitely that I'm interested in I'm trying to understand in mind so that we can try and be you know half a step or a step ahead of them and try and prevent some of the atrocities that happen but you perhaps you can make a show about hacking or perhaps the white hat that's part of the let me spin some time form some ideas and let me work on something I'll just definitely stick around and we'll get to that yeah making making an episode might seem hard but I did one and it's not that are if you've got someone to tell you what to do creating the content is not the hard part it's actually if you want it to be informative it's more about thinking about the subject matter and having a plan on how to put it out there so I I don't a lot of YouTube stuff that's you I didn't have that problem I knew the book I I basically memorized the entirety of it accidentally and I just I just had it there with me and I just began reading it I a little plan on the board and then just began explaining and then woo suddenly suddenly an episode appeared that's the best once I I really love to learn a topic and then just speak about it oh yeah I can talk about a lot of stuff for literal days like I will remember the most useless information and then be able to re-regurgitate it like later like year-round the road I actually had a friend that was a little bit fishy because he could actually see a page and remember it like a photographic memory and very eerie because we we had this math book for the page with 1000 numbers of the or decimals of p pie and he said okay I've seen the page now so I I know that and well I know all the numbers so that's insane yeah so we tried him out and he failed on the lot third last on the page we knew all the ones except that it would last three or something was like you're extreme dude that's that's I definitely can't do that like I will remember some random stuff I will remember like that like last I added conversation with a person and years before I saw um so a person there playing a game and then I saw footage of said game later and I was like that was the game and then I said it to that and then that was like um I saw that footage like two years ago and I just had to come for session like a few days ago so the person was quite impressed and I was like yeah I have that now we have different brains which I think is so interesting my my wife is is the person that remembers everything that no one else remembers so you kind of should people yeah she she actually can remember things like okay on our first date you have white socks on you I was like that you're bullshitting but I remember it but does she say she maybe she can just say she remembers stuff and then she plans to memory in you and now all that sudden she's controlling you it was to me I'm here I'm actually for it is for you I'm here also so that's for you oh yeah it's it's it's the same so where are you at Pantzon and as you live hmm yeah do you know what country I live in Netherlands it's a very low country very very wet if the dikes were to break ever also some fireworks at a new year even though it's illegal now yeah they they decided to ban it this year and um low and behold there were still people doing fireworks not as many people definitely less fireworks than there's usually are but um they definitely bought more they definitely decided well since it's legal now and let's do more fireworks yay so yeah that's people for you yeah and my labor dollars they hate fireworks I really do hate fireworks it's literally setting fire to money for what and it really does damage the dogs and stress them out yeah yeah it's like a people I was talking to people and they were saying like yeah this year we might not have kind of stuff to our pets and I and I was already like maybe and and no no yeah the hand yes thing if you have fireworks don't don't buy the fireworks you have free fireworks all over to play she just have to look for it in the sky and you have free fireworks you don't have to pay for it and um it's added with with at least here in Netherlands usually with the feeling that you can be blown up at any moments and I'm very aware that I like that feeling and um yeah that's definitely weird yeah okay good night actually it was in Netherlands before last oh where were you I think we were the stayed in Nailmagan ah Nailmagan we slept there and then I kind of we can remember if I've been there ever and then I think we went down to the large city of Gervé yeah it's a nigger nightmare and it's a very small community but we were at the company there that where it does books for for the blind and so on because we are working with those kind of the that's cool both companies and uh uh organizations in different countries so our company is actually producing all the newspapers in Sweden for uh government department that does all the uh extra speech for news in Sweden oh that's cool so it's the the digging tone more that it's uh it's Swedish for Gervé it's a dig of it so we had a grace and stuff probably then I think it's down for something else in Dutch I don't think it's the same it's a very nice country Nailmagan has a rich history with all the four history and so on so we were actually working around a bit but by this river here wall I believe I'm tired so I might not know geography or completely and I haven't even been to every part of my country like I haven't been to every province yet I've been to all of Sweden I understand I've actually been to Sweden nice not I saw a snake yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we we we we we saw it in log pile that we we just saw it going into the log pile and we never saw it again when time I was walking in the woods found a snake in the floor and uh I thought oh what a tiny little what a nice tiny little snake and I'm in Europe so there's no such thing as poisonous snakes in Europe so I picked up the snake and played with it a bit and then put it down and everything was fine sorry the snake didn't enjoy it too much it didn't have you Michael later if I'm not that that was one of the poisonous ones yeah what do you go to Fatherxus the fun approach is though we talked to the kids they said okay if you find the snake in Sweden you they are more afraid of you than you should be of them so just keep a distance but then you should be fine they only place in the world where you have uh animals that really want to kill you and pretty much every animal want to kill you is Australia so you're pretty much safe yeah yeah I mean I do actually know quite some biology I have a biology book which I lost and I also accidentally memorized might have been a nature move if it's might have watched too many of them if we go in one of them a biologist well yeah I don't know no no much background some of my friends do but I'm not rock guy you know what they say rocks rock yeah yeah what did you say about Texas Jo is there a lot of saints that want to kill you there yeah and then quite a few actually I mean cotton mouth the rattler things like that well I guess Georgia had water magazines I go ahead I go ahead and make the series for the fuck well but yes Swedish snakes so there's this lovely little island of Maynam Sweden and that's where there's a summer cottage that my mum's pyro's own out anyway we could go over there a lot in the summer and that's what was raining cool so and it was always like right what shepherd snakes what shepherd snakes or shepherd snakes and then as kids so remember there being snakes in that woods that blueberry woods and we kind of be a little bit scared of them I think but yes thanks although they're mostly harmless although they send that might add to them holiday with us 2010 in the canary ovens and reef in the earth proofs everybody that he's not scared of a snake and so he wanted to so now the list of poisonous snakes in Texas is cotton mouth copper head Texas coral western cotton mouth garter snake I did not know the garter snake was poisonous rock rattlesnake Texas brown snake the cisterous catonatus turga minis the common water snake the cisterous catonatus Edwards the rough earth snake the Mississippi green water snake the grams crayfish snake and earth snakes you've said we weigh my poisonous snakes then even snakes in the Netherlands we've got a we've got a poisonous snake not that's like can imagine all those snakes being there that's love but you have dikes just waiting to burst that's true yet yeah then again I'm one meter above the sea level so I'm totally fine rest of the country might sink but I'm fine for now for now but here you have the large list of things that you should look out for in Sweden the most dangerous animals animals to bear yeah you don't mess with a mousse and you don't mess with a bear I saw a mousse once well not really it was a paper mousse I shot it in the head we actually have mousse in our gardens sometimes we're eating our apples so eating you don't hate your power into an alcohol mousse whatever and it's probably not gonna end very well you know for you in the car so I think we had a great thing and it actually had jumped on my car once and I have a buckle in the in the car because of that's an indentation but there is six animals so we have a quorum or we have the wolf the wild boar a common european vipers and the bee because of the bee sting and you can be a lamb now right yes that was the one I picked up when it started hissing then that's when I put it down you know we have the bees and we have the boar and the boar are in a nice little pend of areas where and people I know if they're like released but they're like they aren't really a problem so it's a big game and pick you really yeah they're mostly a tourism tourist attraction I think haven't really been a little but we have a lot fewer species of venomous spiders in Texas but it's basically the nasty ones and in some places I've lived in Texas there were a lot of them like the black widow the brown recluse and let's see there's two more the Texas brown tarantula and the spider exclusion but I've only ever seen black widows and brown recluses but do you have any of those nasty animals that eat so the spiders so you can so keep them around well scorpions yeah but once I was here it's another dangerous racquet great scorpions are in all that dangerous yeah we didn't know that would make them way cooler well when they're extremely young um they're slightly more venomous but it's not really all that much of an issue um then there's also a specific species of scorpions called the vinegar run which um it basically it doesn't have the stinger but it will shoot a substance very similar to vinegar and that um they're known for killing spiders we also have a lot of um but small lizards but that aren't dangerous at all they're just little lizards I think they said that in Australia they have a really nasty raccoon or something like that that could really bite you and eat you whole if it actually get a hold of you but you shouldn't kill those because those eat the really nasty spiders and other red raccanies I have a thing in this trailer amongst the kill you but no it sounds like a lifestean that's telling me I understand that there's a couple of large um species of spiders in Australia they don't want to kill you but we'll kill a whole bunch of the things that do want to kill you except I just like how many badgers hunting badgers who does I've seen I've seen what those can do honey badgers they they they're dangerous badgers badgers in general are dangerous yes they are the largest um carnivores in my country where I am at right now we haven't got a lot of volatile animals but too small whoa the Wolverine is actually um if I remember right a breed of badger I don't know it's it's something like in Nigeria but I actually looked it up because in Sweden there are all Wolverines and I didn't know about it but because they are super rare I think with there is like 10 of them in Sweden or something something yeah none of them are in Skansen so we're in it's not the pet thing oh it's a little badger like thing uh they look really nasty but they are the larger than a cat with smaller than a bear I sent a video of Wolverine to the chat yeah okay okay put it in the thing in the cloud it's a huge thing sorry how about shot I mean they always talk about that immediately Joe the next movie but you know some shots I think with me harmless others or more depending on more of them oh sharks sharks they're they're quite nice if you don't bother them it's actually um some guy some person youtube person did apparently a test what like a taste test for sharks what do you like what don't you like and they apparently like fish blood which does make a little bit of sense when you consider day they're they evolve for millions of years to hunt fish that's what the shark wants you to believe one man they get two million times the uh the thing in that video was kind of cute aside the fact that I was holding it that in a moment now it was a dead goat's head well it was a goat's head but but they don't apparently a great white shark's or something they um they don't want to hunt on humans but they hunt seals which looks suspiciously like surfboarding humans that's why you shouldn't surfboard with great white sharks yeah I think I read yeah I think I've read that as well they they mistake like to pray when it's not yeah shark's have also been very hyped and American culture with shark week as well yeah sharks definitely sharks are super cool killers which have been like evolved to be due greatest hunters of what they are hunting at the moment but what they are hunting at the moment is definitely not humans because everything that tried hunting humans died um see the giant list I like giant birds of prey and stuff which you don't humans now they don't exist I'm not making that up about giant birds of prey by the way I don't know if you mean that humans destroy anything but it's gonna hunt them as well then then yeah yeah yeah it's retaliary retaliary thingy it's thingy where you vengeance basically retaliation yes I'm able to pronounce certain words because it's for a clock in the morning quarter past four so yeah it's English your clock language together with Dutch I'm by bilingual and two languages yeah yeah yeah group grew up with basically Dutch and English together um language isn't that I got that as well yeah for me and now we're getting this as well well English is obviously one I'm one of the fallen kids you know one of those three which come every new year like middle of the night they say hello and then they leave one of those and the middle one this is the one who's tired yes this is the only state actually there's another one she she's doing her own thing she decided to this year she will want to stay too we just missed the Brazil well just missed like 20 minutes ago Brazil Argentina and a bunch of other places so welcome to the new year of South America yeah always although there might be listening somewhere but I mean you know we need to make them feel okay hey there going to be listening to this and they're all gonna be like why doesn't they mention us yeah oh it's 20 minutes when this comes out in July they're gonna be pissed right yeah now that I think about it is there actually some time zones that are not populated I don't think so well because there's there's time zones where there is population so what does that maybe if you know there's time zones there's big things they're big okay yeah so if you if you go to the uh show notes you have all the time zones and you'll notice there's a bunch of them at a half hour intervals yeah the thing you don't know if all we have hour intervals yeah you have some dead time zone prices yeah there's one with 15s which is fantastic also she means a great because the idea was we have a square square hour day right right now it's what we need so it's gonna summertime wherever it is okay can we just agree to remove that shit oh I hate summertime winter time winter day yeah we're just gonna move it this year but we didn't like the one good thing coming that could come out of 2020 didn't actually there might be some more good stuff like I got I got a D&D group yeah I'd be very glad to if you're listening to this thank you it it's very fun I'd like to say the ice and then we're talking about time zones there but I like to go to ice and then may 2015 because coming Glen so we're on summertime BST which summertime but they don't change their clocks over there so they're still on the GMT or UTC sorry basically when and they were behind from on the plane going there just because of the summertime and then yeah so in case we're not summertime so I think there's some changes doesn't change for summertime yeah that's why I think they don't do so quite light yeah midnight over there in May they're not you see I always thought sweet I was a bit less of country but it was really nice but really I think just the summer winter time thing just picked the time which is closest to your actual time if you can't decide your actual time it's the one in the middle how hard is that to understand if you can't decide your actual time it means that it's too cloudy to to actually measure the you know because your position would respect to you know sun stars but it means that you don't actually care about time because it's always dark yeah but even then I was able to see the last time solar clips thing when it was cloudy so day can just look through the clouds just catapult someone up and then ask questions later about what the sun looked like this is not a little different yeah the love of cherry pressure novels I know I'm afraid you can see that anyway when is it always cloudy? oh yeah anyway every switch over when you switch from winter time to summertime or summertime to winter time you have a week or two with really cranky kids that don't really understand why they should go to bed or why they should get out yes yes and they need to have to go to school and no one likes going to school because it's at the wrong time oh you forgot and then you were kidding you get a school when you come in late like my one like oh yeah are you getting early? getting in late is worse because you you get a little letter and then no one does anything with it because you're sure you're not late but it's still it's like oh you get a little letter and I don't like that yeah that's how they do it in my school and I'm one of the good kids so I don't usually get in trouble yeah what do you get school yeah yeah I'm 15 so I go to school actually I do go to school so it's the last year for you guys oh have you seen more yes to go um well I need to go to school so I'm 18 so that I'm quite young for someone who is doing their exams next year I'm doing my exams next years that's like way too young I would say but no no it's a perfectly good time yeah so then you have to and the school and they say so because of covid it's hard to track you to be a school and the school um couldn't really hear that correctly both um yeah it was nice that last year last school year that we didn't have to have any of those stupid exams but this time they decided to upgrade the system where we can go to school only if we have exams which I'm super happy about yeah exams are the best anyway so yeah under 20 I guess I was thinking about this before I've changed in the topic a bit here but um like with the Linux kernel they I was freezing out school before like you know they're getting old and it's a well they're like over 40 I think a lot of them and it's bit like who's gonna work on that then it's kernel in the future because I believe they're not attracting that many new developers and there's probably other open tools projects that have well not just little kernel but you see what I'm saying it's like and these younger people will do this as well as why these projects are gonna disappear aren't those or not or something's gonna happen to them yeah things I know nothing of programming and the likes my father tried to teach me but I didn't work I it's more interested in history and biology because stuff kill other stuff but um I do know that you need younger people to to be interested because otherwise your stuff's gonna die out man I don't know this down now right try and teach for the arts Linux is probably that then what Linux is that now? no in 20 to 40 yes in this you're going to be that because it's yeah it's yeah no he's talking on the animal because always that always you were to look at my friend a group friend then you would definitely notice that it would not be that because one of my friends really he cannot shut up about about Linux stuff and how good it is and that kind of stuff no no but there's no one the right convincing animal convincing to learn and see what see I think the language in which Linux is written you might have already tried or and he might have succeeded I don't know I don't know I I hardly understand what he's saying sometime I can even hardly hear it sometimes because of all the people talking during during the powers is so I can't really hear him it's a fun little language maybe it's true isn't it what I was saying they didn't try it's not younger people I guess as well then you know come on we're gonna come out this the panel well I don't know just the kernel development isn't really a hot topic like it's it's no longer something that you talk a lot about because like there's a bunch of other kernels out there and like people just nowadays really just use it more than actually talk about it that was a thing that when it comes to these kind of things it's all about the community and the toxic community or a community where some members really don't fit in then you have a problem to grow that community and I think that some of the Linux code is by developers might buy out and then the community might change track and also attract more younger person yeah I think so as long as you can keep a community big enough I think it will definitely like the even if it might be only a few thousand if it's enough to attract attention of all the younger nerds out there and that will all be happy enough to do such kind of things as needed doing then they will all have happily do do that because they're bored and for some reason some people don't like D&D which which I find a fascinating and I think good I think the thing that makes some people nervous is that you know Linux is getting older but he has plenty of other people under him that would take the mantle if he decides to step out of the project happy happy near to St. John's new Finland and Labrador by the way happy new year is all those places happy new year to places somewhere in Canada very east oh happy happy new year to places somewhere in Canada Canadian people so happy new year Sunday in one quiet I think I'm now in a really interesting question I sleep tonight or not so anyway I'm of course so you said you're not a programmer well my father does like programming and he's can't fall and you might have heard of them I didn't know I didn't know how many people know about him but I just know that he did HDR like for as long as I can remember stats now I guess he didn't have a choice yeah when I come in entering my house of my dead body but I am the only reason I decided to actually join this time was because I have made something and I'm proud of it and it's totally not connected in any way to programming or something because it's D&D again I can assure you it's not everything in my life just a massive part of it you want to have a new year happy new year happy new year happy new year yeah I enjoyed it okay that thing as well with with all the fact that she limits open source and people people ever look that they really do they really do it times is that actually if you want these projects to actually be out there and be used by enough people but not the perception of something else we get using servers and all the funny way but like let's take the six Mozilla as an example they have to market that and they are now losing a lot of market share and it's because of Chrome as well and Android having Chrome and all that but it's really good ask about that the other week and if you have enough marketing maybe you can get out there again and people always kind of be overlooked that and my it's a very good project there's where there's great but no one cares unless you can market it because people use Chrome no it's still people use insects thought of them windows in the past you know and and I've been through conferences trying to market a particular district in the past and it's like it's a bit like well then it will you know to market prosperity yeah it's the well it's like now you need to do people stuff even actually get your thing used a bit more certain things I think it all depends on really these users and what they require or are interested in but it comes to Chrome that's a very interesting thing that every body goes out and download Chrome my father and downloads Chrome even though he don't know why he still goes out and download Chrome because he thinks that's better than he can't explore yeah but the thing that's made me switch from Firefox to Chrome was that the firebird or firebug that I used to actually do web development was very buggy and very hard to use and then I switched over to Chrome and they had a built-in development environment in that web browser there you go you're using the button you're using the real people Chrome or Chrome in both hands on which system they're very bright yeah on my again to Linux web box that I work on that I use do my work on so I had that on that's my work computer I have Chrome even of course and on my home computer that do mostly gaming and now also talking to you but through there I have the Chrome I think it's classic it's like it's like in the past instance it's lower had you know it's lower six it's been in the XT had 95% market and they had they made a fuss to the let's keep tried and well it was really got released obviously it's open source there's a European thing when the browser palette screen that was a bit of a con though because about half of those browser where I call them fake browser they use in the next store and then you and I think up for a try that they're not taking cessols try and do something like that and now and then they'll see Android came along and that's got a Chrome built in and it's I think it's the same thing as the past basically it's by default so it's used and if you've got a knuckle or knife phone you've got the tarry or whatever instead but that's not as popular anyway but I think if you're having a Mac you usually stay to Safari if you don't do web development and you might switch over to Chrome but of Windows even if you're no but no what nowhere close to a programmer if you just want to touch the web you're still downloading and not the web browser and that's usually Chrome for some reason is Chrome like isn't that like Google something or something or other Chrome is good yeah yeah I sometimes go to Google because it has images like I use Dr. Go on my phone and it's perfectly fine if I just want to go to a thingy but sometimes most of the times when I'm just searching for something I want a picture of that something and I don't really I'm not great with that kind of stuff so I just I just go to Google and then I search the thing so I can get the picture because it's just an ecosystem so to say fully into the Google ecosystem so I see the benefit in that I have a very personal search and I actually find things that I need to find much faster because of that they have all the data on the screen please anyway people use what said about the fault generally speaking so it was in so store like in my XP example in the past it's Google Chrome in Android it's a Safari in a Mac although they might switch to Firefox or Chrome even there if that's Mac users and then it actually makes it an error it may not master quite as much in a way as you can talk about web standards because even most of the edges may have based on Chrome your many ways and use the new edge version although it's so it's kind of like web kit is here with everything else pretty much and then as well as all it's similar though they're all renting anything over here but I've noticed for example that the other week that the I was looking at breathing about Covid and the Brexit obviously there's them and I was reading the fun website which people say don't we just found that's not a good one so it was really you just see the post of a new sources but I noticed on the particular website that was right for them and the comment section was not working at suddenly I think it was checking if my phone is Chrome your message and but if it works there okay I'll try Google Chrome on the computer if it works there and I have a feeling that maybe it's broke there and I just didn't bother testing enough for me because like oh well it works in Google Chrome so they're not just testing Firefox maybe it has to know but the work that works in Chrome it doesn't it's like Google itself it's very probably doing it intentionally which one it's it's from Google I saw this that doesn't look from Google no no it's one of the new papers in the UK so it should have read so and then you've got to have your stay comment section a lot of articles so really that should have worked in all browsers but maybe they haven't tested in Firefox suddenly or they broke something and didn't realize sending these up in that Chrome that could be the problem bit like the past when there a lot of website developers were a bit like oh well this make it work in instant store or who cares about other browsers or some of them were like we'll make it work instant store or we'll then do Firefox and things afterwards and try make it work there as well so that's kind of the problem you can get into as well yeah the new default is Google Chrome but it's interesting if you look at the statistics on Wikipedia you have on the desktop browsers you have a 67% market share for Google Chrome edge and Firefox and Safari has 7 or 9% so it's like six times the amount of installs for Google Chrome but doesn't really say that you have okay you have a desktop that is Windows probably so you choose to use edge no because there is not the market share or 7% of Windows out there but then yeah you have to factor in the schools because if my school is like any other school which I don't know if it is then it has laptops mandatory laptops but you have which for like home and then you have to have these sets of stuff and they use Chrome and many businesses require you to use edge okay I mean like yeah they use edge okay as well they have they will give certain kids laptops because they can't store them or whatever even now but but then they're probably going to be mostly tied to what's on the laptop and also the school computers as well they're faster than a way where generally speaking you're forced to use what's what's there you're not allowed to change stuff normally and you know you've this and that's that and that's probably what he was kind of saying as well yeah every organization that have some eye-to-management that requires you to have or it requires a specific setup then you have that setup that that's organization has given you of course but I think that that might be balancing both directions I think still that a large percentage of people choose Chrome for some reason that I should be saying that actually don't work on time for them for whatever reason they choose the brand probably because oh yeah yeah we have one there's do the old so it's that they gave for that it's like my philosophy so much so far oh yeah anything that is less known will probably be skipped like and of course it's also if it has something which a person wants and the other stuff it no the person knows doesn't have it then it's going to go there and together with branding it can really be effective like I wanted to watch a movie or something yet I only wanted to watch something people knew about because otherwise I was wasting my time I think it just came at the right time basically like the whole browser market was pretty stale when Chrome came into the into the fold and then it was like new and shiny and everyone was like oh Chrome and then it's just became a thing I don't know if you're good good good search thing it was nonstop talking about the don't know come don't know come then yes then yeah so if you're just good for search then you probably heard about come nonstop yeah so the brand exactly so they go for that this would be like apple and then they they got money well they'd use money and marketing to get apple out there and but although money can also fail money though it's not all about money they're because like windows phone has stopped they've got rid of that have money but you didn't have the marketing song of marketing yes so it's so you need both they just gone didn't have the developers for ops good night everyone happy new year wow what I really hate is the branding that goes into school but you you push specific brands or specific topics into the head of children so yeah princess my child comes home everyday from school and have to relearn but the thing that you have at home is not an iPad yeah I learned that the way that it was just I never talked about that stuff because it didn't get it and I didn't have such a thing at home so it that was easy but but just it just it this is a surf tablet or a tablet held up over and over again this is a tablet it's a surf tablet you can say that it's an asosat tablet or a Samsung tablet but it's usually a tablet and where you go to school and apple tablet but every day the teacher say would you like to do that exercise on your iPad here you have your iPad and want to have the iPad yeah yeah yeah exactly the teachers they take fingers like it's like okay it is with the high software so it's not like it's my software it's the blocker oh there's whatever oh no offices you what you want or use what you know like that like I had a teacher who who was a bit like that like last year and we couldn't use like Microsoft Word on our Chromebook for some weird reason or I didn't know how to so we did everything in Google Doc because that's just how it works there and she was like I just sent it to me in Microsoft Word and then everyone was like reuse Google Docs miss not Microsoft Word she tried it again with zoom when the official thing was Google Meet that kind of stuff you mean like and I also think the teachers don't really know what they're talking about it's a bit like a Dutch teacher teaching about history they have no clue it's so true well they really don't know their technology because some of the teachers actually told the kids that you can you can look at this specific rehearsal and work with this program it's a web page you go here and it only works in Safari does not work in only work in Safari because it's a web page it works in a browser have you heard about those I actually wrote a very anger letter to our principal and said tell told her that she had to talk with the staff that they can't say that this just works in Safari because that's just not true yeah and like if I were to say something about technology I would probably get it wrong because I just don't do something like but when like I had it actually this happened to me there was a Dutch teacher who gave topics on history the class didn't have history yet we had a perfectly large amount of history teachers in the school working at that exact moment could have asked any one of them for advice yet they looked at a book which didn't which was just printed out from the printer which it was correct in some technicalities but in other stuff it was really skipping really skipping stuff and I was like it's not correct and she was really and she was kind getting annoyed at the end but you didn't have the problem that you went to school and you had this large map that I pulled down that was incorrect one year correct the next year and then incorrect again because they're freaking sell the adunian chains over and over again oh yeah it didn't happen at this back then which um made me not being able to use atlases for a while because the self-cognitive still a thing in the atlases now have a new atlases just just to give it an idea of how badly before fireworks are relive I just walked outside and it smelled like I was in a fucking war zone or a soar edge swear a freaking war zone and the sky was just hazy with smoke oh I just had that like at um nearly five hours ago I had that nearly five hours ago it was the same except the like um the end of the street there it's not a very long street so quite close they always like to do fireworks so they did it this year they did a little extra they usually go extra but this time they went extra extra and so the entire street was foggy I think everyone was blinded by the lights and death death because of the sound well yeah basically least everyone standing right next which I thought was stupid I covered my ears and my eyes I genuinely hate fireworks this carried too much actually it's carrying us actually put into the uh law this year that's only people with a permit and only people with add had some uh yeah you had to get a license yeah do tell people how to push up the fireworks and they also told people that you probably should not do it because we have better things to do in the police department than going after burning houses and the people that blow their hands off they'll there were more fireworks this year the last year yeah that's lost in nine years now but there's a little bit still a few people fireworks yeah yeah I drew around six or eight years we've been able to fire the rockets in no way but somehow people still get the rockets through the windows I have I have no clue how people get fireworks like here you could we have tons of fireworks just laying around not using it because we are left some overs and now we have just a box but if if you have it for like how long was it again I how long was this thing again it has been illegal for me six to eight years that's quite loud hot quite a long time I would probably import I think from other countries yeah but then how are you going to get past the border it's literally smuggling at that point yeah which is kind of cool but then again not very cool again you have to buckle and I'll call you that good smuggled from Sweden so yeah and it worked in gas station that was not close to the border but it was on the way to the border and the people stopped there and we're really stockpiled about the alcohol and other stuff yeah I can't take that yet I'm too young I probably I promised myself I would never do such a thing so I'm probably not I'm smoking I told my kids that that just very stupid idea bumps into a lot of marketing they have really caught on on that at a can really destroy your lungs so that's a stupid idea and they will keep that thought in mind when they turn 1415 haven't really talked about alcohol but we don't drink yeah usually what what works for me I don't know I probably wasn't going to drink even beforehand but if you just show a picture like before alcohol after alcohol then it really you can see the difference in size which isn't very good so yeah and definitely I know how quickly I can become addicted to something like reading for example that's actually a thing as so I'm never going to go near that stuff even when there's a person who's looking on the streets I cover my mouth yeah I read a lot I read a lot no you kind of said it like you didn't want to get close to reading stuff hey no to if someone smoking on the street I cover my mouth and stuff just but reading isn't that bad it's actually quite good for your people as Larry the second hand smoking is built and smoking yourself that's why I do that when I remember you can actually tell the kids and we have talked about it a lot so that if you smoke and get COVID then you have double the risk of dying because you have killed your lungs in multiple ways yeah pretty much the same as living yourself of voluntary COVID and then they are really not keen on starting I also remember I said about the brain thing before after you can also see that with lungs I've seen it with lungs when someone's smoking before and after it's also not great my wife is a nurse she can actually explain exactly how the cell dies and what is it inflicted in your lungs that's great we have actually talked about all about that so that's cool yeah just I think I might just haven't had an exam about it like a few years if you years weeks a year is not a week it's five in the morning I'm going to stay up until seven in the evening like a day gap last year yeah so we have five four three two one second left and now it's five o'clock so we'd say good happen new year to do you want Boston Rockiston New York Rockiston New Hampshire Milockets, mainland Washington DC Detroit Kava and Atlanta happen new year Happy New Year play some places I've heard some places I've not heard before I guess they're in America somewhere and also some regions in Canada because they haven't mentioned some your regions in Canada okay and that would make sense yeah that would make sense so if you leave no one is going to know it's the right to understand yeah I actually think that I should sleep a couple of hours at least these two weeks in the evening so no you don't get any sleep you're on the bigger now so for all the different times out yeah I can come on later and then out some other times out oh you come in each time it's a new time soon so yeah long point so you get just awake to come in say the time and leave again to sleep okay good yeah go to sleep I would say you need it I don't know if you need it but I would just suggest going to sleep sleeping is nice you can never get too much sleep I actually I'm actually that kind of person that needs to stay awake to two a um at a moment because I always wake at nine in the morning and I can't sleep for nine hours because then I will have headache I need to sleep somewhere between five and seven hours and I don't know set the time that's I don't really get a good morning morning here being awake to all night it's for me yeah it's like a clock here it's like where where are you this is UK it's not normal awake time normal awake time well for me for a clock is like like midnight and except you don't usually have experiences with midday you don't with with for a clock in the morning little and saying right now because I've been up this isn't my first time I've been up sounds like island then Ireland sounds like Ireland do you know I listen to blind boy he's a funny funny character okay no I I'm in the Netherlands right now you might think I'm in Ireland but that's because um half Irish so yeah name and accent and four o'clock five o'clock's pretty close to four o'clock yeah yeah well you in England as well away from oh yeah midlands oh yeah are you in here for now oh yeah so I'm not allowed to strain to any gardens yeah yeah I thought I was going to put us into tears for potentially because I was the only place in the southwest and tear for you for while and but I was still tear for you yeah well I switched a couple of days ago put on me we it here we have just gone into lockdown I think that's where you're talking about but yeah before that it was literally nothing was happening literally nothing it must go a different system was put it just into lockdown again so there's a lot of tear system based on the area people are in oh they said they have a tear system here yeah they said that they didn't follow the tear system they decided to um after they created their own tear system they decided to throw it out of the window and have a new tear system the people who wanted the tear system weren't very happy about that so um the sarcastic comments are that a lot of people know here made a sarcastic comments about it that actually happened he he he he is on vacation now I think something isn't doing it but yeah so it's not holiday well holiday at home or not doing the show thing on TV so it's going around trying to pick up COVID what it's driving around trying to pick up COVID so we can we know it's like it's like a TV person and it's not it is not uh it's like news person but he isn't doing the news right now like comedy person doing the news imagine that in your head and then see it on TV and then you're laughing because it's relevant and he makes it hilarious that that's kind of imagined that and then then it's real I get it cognitive dissonance or something like it bends your brain it's good to laugh yeah laughing is good yeah it's very healthy to laugh apparently um yeah I think it's useful for your brain it's a accommodation is it yeah a recognition of the limitation of language yeah maybe I'd know limitation of language big words stuff I'm very very tired I'm gonna complain because I like complaining no worries it's raising raising point I can actually give tips on how to survive to entire nights and still be awake next morning it's really weird it's actually quite hard to people yeah I don't really have problems with that I have problems with not being able to get angry so I don't have those problems but it's definitely included in there but it's only at the beginning because afterwards you're so tired you can't even be angry at someone um that really that's how bad it can get um yeah you want to air the tips and tricks and stuff so never never go to bed then no no I can't go to bed because then my sleeping schedule which was already kind of can skewed would would be completely exploded we don't want that to happen that's the one positive of this apart from having lots of time to yourself is having your sleeping schedule recess and I can't do that on my own because I will sleep true all the alarms because everyone knows I sleep true everything yeah that's bad kind of similar I've actually I might have actually stepped through a fire alarm once but the big thing was we were sleeping in a in a camper truck thing once and it just fell into a ditch nearly so everyone was awake except me I was just sleeping breathing I didn't know I didn't know I got well what is the future to know I actually have trouble guessing to sleep but when I sleep I sleep like sound unless I wake up by myself and then self my eyes close and I can just be awake if there's a loud sound or something else which would startle me I have issues of deciding which side of sleep I'm on when I'm coming around you know awake if you need to get up to go somewhere then that's one thing but if you remember that you prefer to be up doing things that's another thing you know with the air it's good there's that sometimes you know half past three in the morning is just always too too early no matter how long you do it for it's you know it's a healthy in terms of you know one's social location there's the course I need to stop yeah did you know that I'm at the point now I think but I was ready maybe I who knows that I'm too tired for being tired it's weird but it's true there is a point yeah you can get it quite a sleep yeah yeah I was 26 hours on a say yes I was 26 hours that's that's lots of hours This time I remember being awake for three days, I remember it just hurt really, really hurt for a while and then they came a point where it didn't hurt anymore, but mentally, like cognitively, I was not as capable as it was, it didn't hurt anymore, I was able to carry on. It's where I'm at now, I'm just a little hungry and a little bit dazed and my mental abilities are not fairing as well as they are usually, but I've found that the last time I did this, the only solution was to power through it and then the next evening you would be so tired, even during a great British wake-up which you're watching for some reason, you fall asleep and usually you don't fall asleep, but this time you do. You must love baking, we actually haven't watched it for a while, but it's interesting to see them, it really is, like I, the greatest thing I can bake is the pizza from scratch, I could do that when I was three, so it isn't much of a difference either way, it's just that you can see the people and it's such a high standard and it's just, it was very, very, very, a sponge, how to call that thingy thingy thingy. Spontaneous. No, it's, it's, it's, it's definitely not related to spontaneous in any way, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, not edgy, but like it hasn't edgy, like you can tension, it tension, tension, tension, tension, tension, yeah, well done, yeah, went from edge to knife to cutable with a knife to tension, tension will scuffable with a knife, kind of, there's a lot of tension, basically, that's what I was trying to say. So one of the spoons you have not had set, I have got a headset, if can you hear a servant or it's like humming, no, you can hear a vehicle, echo, oh no, probably a lot actually, and I can basically put you much anywhere that's comfortable enough as well, put plus I don't generally don't get tired and that's some really helpful thing, but then again that's me right, well, I don't, I don't tend to get up to late hours, but I get more five hours six hours. Isn't it full nine hours? I think it was nine hours for an adult. The hours are so they say, I mean, oh yeah, those are the base around sleeping, I'd say, and yeah, if you're used to it, I feel the 36 hour day thing, and stuff like that, I have done it in the past, where you're at, you just wait 24 hours suddenly, or you wait maybe a bit longer, 36 at the most maybe, but I don't think it's the best idea to do that, just because it's just a bit like, you know, it's a bit, a bit like, no, it's definitely one of my most stupid ideas. Well, maybe 24 hours, you know, but some people do that today and nights, and then they, the only time I can excuse myself to do it is today, so I'm doing it today. No, yeah, you stay away. No, not last year. I did it the year before, that was the first time I did one, yes. I skipped one year, because we were going to family for the first time, ever, and it wasn't very far away, family, we didn't stay over, we just went and we went back, and we were all stupid tired, so we went to bed. So many things are waiting for the house, we are 26 hours, that's a little bit different, because you can see why, but generally speaking, it does have a use, it does de-stress you, and the first time I did it, I was, yeah, I was teenager, wanted to do stupid stuff, and I'm still a teenager who wants to do stupid stuff, but it did have a use, I could watch the, and we could watch gallophans, but binge-watch it, and usually I'm not able to, because other people want to watch it too, and stuff, or they don't want me watching it, and want to watch something else, but no one has a clue what to watch, so I decided to watch it there, and yeah, that's also a handy trick, if you want to stay up all night, don't move, and watch something, we'll come back, because I'll try to watch time team, which I'm really interested in, but if you want to stay awake all night now, this time, yeah, I can probably be the coldest, like don't have your heat in on full blast or something, because you might, those are those in all. You might, but it might number, what I usually, I usually just, well, I, the two times, I've done it, including today, it's just don't move lots, because that helps preserve your energy, and it works, and watch something with, with combat and stuff, because, uh, and like nature documentary will, will pass, and, um, um, gallophans, which is more singing than combat, actually will pass, that's, that's fine, but, um, the riveting time team will most, which is very weird, but fine, it's no combat, and you, one, have a clue what time team is apart from me? archaeology, yes, archaeology, the great wonders of archaeology, they go in and in three days or something, they have to find basically as much of the archaeology as they can, which is really cool. Do you like, uh, do you like other, um, alternative contexts, but where things are done, the same, so hang on, um, so different artifacts in a different context, like in physics, for example, like discovery, and what is it that you like about that time team thing? Well, it's archaeology and it's like history, I like history, um, and it's really interesting to see how much work goes into just getting the stuff out of the ground, it's not even that deep, you could dig to it with your hands, but you don't know where to dig, you don't know what to look for, you have to be very careful not to break stuff, that kind of stuff, and you also see time team is very old, it's been there for, since apparently, uh, the 1980s or 1990s, which was way before I was born, so, um, you can see how it kind of, uh, how stuff got sophisticated, more sophisticated, uh, more you go on and also the presenters, the same, so you see as careful out, which is also very interesting. Tony Robbins, no, what's his name? I have no clue I haven't watched him in a little while, I've been busy with school work. I used to, I watched the guided time team, if it's the same man, he read Odysseus on Jack and Ori, when I was a child in the 80s, very, I loved Odysseus the way he told that story. Could be, which I'd mean, you know, quite into time team as well, for all of you to watch it with my dad. Yeah, Odysseus, uh, I, I, I know the rough outlines of the story, I know, basically most myths, I know the rough outlines yet, I never read them, I just, I just hear, uh, summaries of them, but I like the story of Odysseus, a good guy just wants to get back home, but he pissed off, um, he pissed off Poseidon because he, um, uh, because Poseidon's son tried to eat all his men and kind of, kind of succeeded, so he blinded him and, uh, stuff. You know, I think that was the Cyclops, wasn't it? Yeah, one Poseidon Cyclops. I think I'm going to go and look for the link for, for that Jack and Ori to post it because you might, you might love it if it's the same guy. Yeah, I think I will actually watch it, but, um, but it, it was the Cyclops, but it was also the son of Poseidon, that that's how Poseidon got mad and how Odysseus, uh, yeah, and he would, he would not have survived without to help of the gods, that's to say, definitely there, like, um, yeah, that was pretty bad, and it's funny at the ending, he, there's like he has to face off against, um, all the, all the suitors, so he disguises himself as an old man, and, uh, he's like, there's, um, yeah, he does the one thing, which only he and his son know how to do, so he basically does it, uh, they, they can't do it, and his son just shows, yeah, I can do it, and then, uh, he goes and he does it, this old guy, this old random beggar, just outshines all the people and that's really cool. Good stories. Yeah, myths are actually, uh, very interesting, like, if you go down to, to quite a lot of myths, you will see, it's, it's basically the same, there's a lot of story elements we still use, and a lot of, uh, like, uh, a lot of morals we still have and also stuff has changed, of course. Archetypes. Archetypes and stuff, uh, but then, for instance, like, um, the most, at least in, in Europe, I think, the most no one, um, myth is a mythical stuff, is of course, from Greece, ancient Greece, and Romans and stuff, because Romans. But then you've got these two, there are only two stuff, uh, it's the Norse myths. We have only got two sources, and they're both from the Christian era, and so that's very interesting to see, to, to, to think about, like, what's real, what's not real? Right, and we have no idea whether the Christian missionary who wrote the Edda's down wrote them down exactly or wrote them down in favor of the Catholic church. There's definitely some favor in there, like, um, I heard, I haven't actually read them, so don't take it as gospel, but it, um, I heard that there's like, um, in Ragnarok, it basically says somewhere, and then there will be a great God, which was greater than all gods, and he was greatest, and he was so great, and he didn't come up in the entire, so it was definitely, was definitely crowbarred into the story, like, oh, we have to mention our gods somewhere, we just have to, but then there are other things, like at the ending of Ragnarok, there are two humans that have to repopulate the world, and then there are several gods who survived, and Baldur, who came back from the dead, which is very interesting, which makes you think that really happened, and which makes you then think was Loki so evil, and I think I have to explain this, please say if I have to explain this. Well, everything I have read has said that, uh, the way it was supposed to work out after Ragnarok was that Baldur would be reborn and would become the new old father. Yes, that's what I heard, but think about it, one god, there is of all about love and forgiving in all the nice stuff in the world, has been reborn, and there are two humans left after repopulate the world, doesn't, doesn't that sound a little bit like another quite popular literature? Yeah, that sounds like he made it up to fit in his own prejudice. Yeah, but then you have to think, why was Loki so evil? He wasn't actually quite that evil in all the other stories from whatever, and I read quite a lot. It was more chaotic than evil, I don't think he said on one side or the other, that friend. Yeah, he's more a chaotic neutral. He's, he's like, uh, I, there was a fantastic discreet description, I once heard, and I'm just going to repeat it. They said, Loki is more like a cartoon villain. He messes up stuff, but then he has to go and fix it himself, and he can really see that back in the stories, but he isn't necessarily evil. He keeps his promises and that kind of stuff. But then the one thing where he, those go evil is when he kills Boulder, which makes you think caused Boulder to be killed. He did not actually kill Boulder. That's true. That's true. But without him, Boulder would not be dead. Exactly. Yes. What was the intention? I remember reading that story about being well? Well, was it nothing could harm Boulder every yeah, because he got an idea. I mean, the intention, the intention of Loki, was he just a bit wrong? To know what's even worse, no one, who, who, who did it until he went to a party and decided to crash the party by telling everyone that he calls the Boulder to die. That's definitely, and that's actually, and then they trained him up with the organs of his songs, which is a little harsh, in my opinion. Sounds like a thing, a Christian mission, or right, yeah. Yeah. But then Pagan soon wouldn't get their shit together, yeah. Yeah, I think so. And it does also sound like Loki is supposed to be the devil. And he's usually described as the villain, yet the villains are clearly, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, well, the devil wasn't even the devil until two or three hundred years in the Christianity. Yeah, and that's true. Yeah, I don't know. One of God's inquisitive kind of idea. Was it? Yeah. He made one of his angels. He was one of his leading servants. Yeah. I definitely heard that he, he, he, he, he felt prosecuting attorney type. Well, the following from heaven or is is in later apocryphal stuff that's based on revelation, but not in the relation. Okay. Yeah. But that does, that does sound more in canon, because every religion I think has a canon of its own. It does sound more like like like Christian canon that the devil, because God, according to Christians has made the world the entirety of the world. So why would he create the devil that just doesn't make sense? This context isn't there. There's context. You want to imagine the conversation and the people in the room and what it is that the speaker is trying to achieve? Yeah. Yeah. Like personally, I, I don't believe in like Christians or something. They offered I decline. Um, I believe that it definitely, there could be a possibility of God's existing, um, depending on how much belief, but that's mostly influenced by reading books. Harry Pratchett. Yeah. I, I was raised to Christian. I spent a lot of time shopping around different Christian denominations and whatnot. And eventually said none of this makes any sense. And um, yeah, I actually started learning wicka and that makes more sense because there is no dogma. There is, there is no book saying you believe this. Yeah. I, I've also started a lot of Hinduism and especially Chaiven. Nice. I've got a few of those little doctors, the Divinity things and none of them are from Christian organizations. But yeah, I'm also real old. Yeah. How did you, have you heard of Eric Davis? Yeah. Who was, oh sorry. Who's the other person speaking, just been about being old and that's me. Massive. Massive. You heard of Eric Davis. Hmm. I've heard of a few Eric Davis as I'm not sure which you were referring to. Eric Davis is a, uh, it would be into, um, how did you describe, uh, not religion, but the, yeah, psychology, um, religion, occult, um, the way that people's minds work, archetypes, all of that kind of stuff. I think you'd be really interested in it. I do not know that name. I, I've read a lot of other officers on the subject. Uh, there's a particularly good atheist channel on YouTube that now also has a discord that's under the name Holy Kool-Aid. That's just funny. That's funny. And he, he was actually raised in a missionary family in Holland or Belgium, I think. And it was prophesied that he would become this great prophet and everything and been, uh, two years ago, they prophesied that by, uh, June of this year, he would be a great prophet and he would come back to Jesus and he's posted a couple of times. Hey, I haven't happened yet. I don't, I don't see anything going on here. I think he knows both Eric Davis. Yeah, my wife wants to hear more about Eric Davis. Um, I just filmed not Carolina. Eric Davis, he's, he is American. Uh, he's, he didn't uh, well, he's just written a book about Philip K Dick. I'm trying to find the name of it. Um, he's done a lot of audio. That's interesting because, yeah, I am a big science fiction fan. I'm, I'm a filter. I, I sing science fiction is what that means. I, I'm, I'm more fancy. I, it's, you can have fancy and sci-fi both. I do enjoy good sci-fi. Yeah. I'm more of a producer. I do both. Uh, they're actually a number of things across over. I know that, uh, the white post stories by Mary Gental were said to be fantasy written as science fiction. Yeah. Yeah. It seems to be a fantasy stuff going on, but it's being written the way a science fiction story would have been written. Oh, okay. Yeah. See, we have a book here. Uh, hi weirdness by Eric Davis. Drugs, they're so terrible. And visionary experience in the 70s from MIT breath. He has a website called Tech Noces as in Tech, then G, NOS. I, yeah. Tech, you know, not, not, not stick together. I understand my wife is looking at it. Hey, we got a computer right here. Why are you looking up on your phone? There's so much good audio. I really like his ideas and ways, strings things together. Uh, uh, Docs. It's a dot com. Oh, check. Mm. Well, I will get interference. He would happen. Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes, that was the Eric Davis. I weirdness in your ears. The audio book is out. The Located Film set. Film Festival, our pandemic psychedelic trip. I wish you a psychedelic. They leave been dealing with all as truck crap, you know? Oh, sorry. Uh, I, I, I'm needed to be accepting of the fact that there may be some right wing windows. It's just doubt it, but possibly. For, yeah. Well, I, um, um, down here, everyone, everyone here was like, oh, look, Biden was elected president. Nice. Hopefully, it's going to be better than the other guy. Well, what's such a lower part? Come on. Yeah. But apparently, more people have voted for Trump than any other president except Biden. Think about that. That means that's true. But seven, over seven million more voted for Biden than Trump. And, uh, yeah, in the last election, uh, Hillary got 2.9 million more votes than Trump. So he, he almost tripled the number of votes difference between Trump and who Trump was turning against. Wait, did, did Hillary Clinton have more Hillary won the popular vote? She did not get it. Because we had the electoral college. I totally forgot about that. I watched, uh, some, uh, explaining person about explaining about it. And I still don't get it. If the public votes shouldn't, she just listened to the problem was, uh, the South had a few fewer states or colonies to that state than the North, but the North had more people. And they didn't want, uh, New York running the whole country. They wanted to be balanced out in a way. And in fact, they even had the chance of constitution to have all the slaves who couldn't vote count as three-fifths of a person. Well, there are no more slaves anymore, which is a good thing. I would say, definitely a good thing. But you have to say, they found other ways to make them slaves. You notice that how Highland, in personation rates are among black males. Yeah, Chris Jale. They found out that if he'd charged in with something they couldn't defend themselves, they put them in Jale, they made them work and not pay them. So they were slaves again and if you refuse to work like you got a high-assentance study You just have well you also get beaten and maybe killed and nobody cares because you were in prison and you must have just acting out or something you know This is why I like ancient history more than then then then recent history Like ancient history everyone has forgotten all No horrible things except the people wrote it down so you can just joke about things that I've killed like But you can also notice that the people who wrote it down were on the winning side so they don't really say what happened Not not not necessarily not necessarily Like Rome lost In the beginning against Hannibal. They lost quite a lot Hannibal was quite true He did the biggest ambush in history Which totally worked completely Perfection he just haven't escaped plan as a problem Yeah, yeah, I really were not making any of the awesome they started that after they got over because he didn't have my history book skipped Hannibal Mm-hmm, so I had to catch up by watching YouTube videos about it. Where are you? What country then thens? Nice place. I usually VPN into Holland since three years ago there Oh, there's smoke weed my wife was from Canada Okay They smoke weed in Canada, too. Oh, yeah, it's legal. I'm from California, but it wasn't legal when I was there I've I've never been in more of a hit-in-hill I've never been more west than the west parts of Ireland like the part which just into the sea I've never been that far east. I've never been off the North American continent Yeah, I've never been to France. I haven't even been to the south of my own country That's saying something when you can literally walk across the country in a day or two Yeah, if you take the train it's gonna be way faster. There's trains everywhere. I heard it woke once where this Texan is bragging about the side of his ranch to a sweet and he says I can get in my car And I can drive from one end of my ranch to the other it takes me two days to drive to one end of the ranch to the other and the sweet goes yeah I once had a car like that tool I'm the subject of vehicles and And cannabis the UK criminalized all psychoactive substances about six years ago So we do actually have one of the most draconian drugs laws on the planet. They criminalized all psychoactive And then they made exemptions for food items because of course that covered all the caffeine and all of the things in there In the health food shops like the Holly Holland and Barrett needed a license to sell The US government has been trying to make anything that affects your attitude That affects your brain chemistry a drug and that includes food Yeah, that's the way that's the UK law currently. So psychoactive substances fell in the past years ago Well, I don't know what the situation is here. I at least know that I'm not living anywhere where there are I haven't seen any prostitutes and I haven't seen any people doing drugs anywhere near my My I would call it a town. It's it's like like the track in if you would translate it my Settlements would be called a village But it's bigger than a town which has city rights So it's confusing I could have village translated of course I think it would be town town would be the correct word to describe it, but Yeah, it's very hard to know what's this what what's City and what's not is what's what's not and what is If it doesn't have that many evil Many for bureaucracy thing but they just went oh yeah, you can have walls because you paid me this some of money Yeah Yeah, I think around here a city is is the amount of population in an area you have to reach this one actually It's a legal definition in the U.S. You have to incorporate as a city and it was really funny Is there a lot of towns that are incorporated as cities and with a PDF may call them a town that I live in Blaine, Tennessee Okay, Blaine has a population of 1,800 but legally it's a city What's how the administrative consequences apparently you can have your own police department among other things If you're not in a Incorporated city you have to use the county sheriff Really most of the towns around here other on Please department well you can check their Incorporation papers and they're probably incorporated in cities now some states have different definitions But that's over what most of the U.S. is Tennessee is weird because they actually have county mayors Yeah, instead of just the city having a mayor the counties have a mayor too It's I I usually get very Not very confused but kind of confused with the American system like in the Netherlands you have a few Prophecy is but yeah, it's the country the Netherlands and it's Netherlands and it's all the Netherlands But in America you each have a state so it's America but then states well Netherlands does have Several areas Holland is not all Netherlands I know I know I live in Holland and then the Netherlands at the country You've got no problem. You've got Norton on sidewalks but I could list them all even one which was technically see at one point It was also yeah, it's now it's now land I'm starting to blow off firework here. We still that 16 minutes before it's midnight Oh, are you still before it's midnight? Yeah, yeah, Eastern times though in U.S. now where my My father lives in New Brunswick is already tomorrow Well, I am at five in the morning now I'm in four to six and I've been awake all night well I I hate to say it that I actually got regular old Kentucky Birbidden in my drink instead of the nice bottle of calomor duet house sitting around Oh, I've left the Netherlands I've been as far west as Ireland as far north as a Sweden Far east as Sweden or Germany I've been on all days in both before COVID I've also been to Denmark once I went through Denmark to get to Sweden Yeah, so that that's but I've been to Northern Ireland But I don't know if you can call that it's own country Well, that's okay. Yeah, it's UK. Yeah, it's still on the island of Ireland It's like I've been I have been the 38 states. I've been the three provinces of Canada I've been to come two states of Mexico So you've been to come with countries I had number your countries Except that 38 states is a lot of states. I've lived in nine of them is a state country Do technically if you don't have the world map, but it's a lot bigger than those countries It's true. That's true. It's true. You've probably covered more area, but I've been in more countries I also remember that in the United States each each state is almost like it's own country That's true. In the fact that they have the role we all have our own each each state has its own laws They kind of business later. They're going to be Americans to get and then because it's so big. So Americans You're basically forget that actually there's a whole big boat out there There's a tiny highway that runs through Tennessee, which is I-40 and that highway runs 453 miles through Tennessee Multi-way at times what 1.4 Where is Tennessee? Tennessee is East Coast almost, but not on the coast. We're in one where across the mountains for North Carolina Yeah, runs all the way for the mountains. The thing is I haven't actually seen an actual physical map of the United States of America. Google maps. Yeah, I've seen Google maps, of course. I've seen that kind of stuff, but I don't know the names. So it's so I have no clue. I'm definitely- I definitely want to go to America once to see what it's like to see if the crazy stuff I heard about it is real. No, because I've heard some crazy stuff and I want to see if it's real. I've been to and lived in a lot of seats, so I probably know. What have you heard that's a crazy America? Well, come on, remember, I remember one thing is real that some Americans actually think that the entire world is America. They're Americans, they're Americans that think New Mexico, which is a state, as a foreign country. Yeah, about 40% of Americans think that New Mexico is not part of America. 40%. I think 40% might be high. Yeah, Trump didn't believe Puerto Rico is part of America. Puerto Rico has gone through all the steps of becoming a state except the Senate won't hear about it. And that's because Mitch McConnell runs the Senate. Yeah, so it's not the same thing about New Mexico. I don't know. Yeah, he thinks he did such a great job after the hurricanes in Puerto Rico, because he went down there and threw around some rolls of paper towels, man. Seriously, that took care of the problem right there. It was quite a big TV, yeah. There, I've heard this crazy myth that like half the country doesn't believe COVID. It's real. That's ridiculous. What I'm thinking of is not Hannah, that's kind of a terrible situation. The population. Yeah. Actually, only like 47% of the population will be there. Which is, which is why Biden adds up to hard time becoming president because, yeah, yeah, 40. Yeah. Yes, he won by seven million votes, but that's out of 250 million votes or something like that. There's a lot of people. It's based to know if you look at the map, you see three countries in the entirety of that of non-American consonants, which is crazy. Yeah, that's right. If you look at Europe, one of the smallest consonants except for Oceania, which is actually the technical name, um, you see, you see tons of different, so you can also email Australia and visit the other one that they're in the consonants, yeah. Yeah. Even in Canada, where most people were saying they're still significant percentage of the population that believe everything the Trump says. And Trump is not the originator of those things. I don't collect that. You should look up Q&A and see what the craziest of the crazy is really on. Q&A. Well, you know, actually, America, high jackbout, sorry, there were walls with like Mexico and things, so I believe lots of California, you should be Mexico and some of the other things. Oh, yeah, I do know actually some history of America. Oh, isn't another thing I've heard, is it true that, um, that some Americans believe that, um, when America was created basically, it instantly changed the world. Because I haven't heard that one. Yeah, that's what that's a new one. Look, uh, yeah, there's enough dumbasses here in this country where people, there's a good chance that there's somebody believes in something. They're flat earthers here, all right. Do you understand? I understand flat earthers. Yes. Yeah. I've heard of them, but I'm out of the, I'm out of biode man, but I'm pretty sure that flat earthers, yeah, but yeah, trying to use the Bible to prove all the things about the earth being flat, but the Bible says it has four corners, so it can't be a disk. Yeah. It is interesting. But then you back in the day of when the Bible was created, everyone knew that the earth was a sphere. It's true. Some guy calculated it in ancient times. How do you think they had degrees? I mean, all the temples and and main things are set on exact points. Yeah. But they, um, they still just, but see there have been large long theories of illiteracy throughout history. Mm-hmm. And you forget what you used to know. So when you could go out there and you would see, you would see that the earth is a sphere because you wouldn't see the land anymore. Well, if it were against Columbus sailing believed that the world was flat and that he would sail right off the edge of the world. No, that's not clear. The intelligent people didn't, but the general populist did. And I don't know, it was hard for him to raise funds for that. Maybe the ones who live, of course, not at sea. But, uh, of course, Columbus didn't claim to the current India either. Columbus claimed to have just, yeah, Indians. And he just, well, the people in India, they called Hindus, not Indians. So he did not claim that they were the same people in the same place at any point. Okay. But I, I, I, I must say that, um, uh, uh, fact then you just didn't sail away from the shore. That was the number one rule in sailing. Um, that's why Athens could scam the entire Greek peninsula because they had the one way they had a massive navy and they could block or trade and then everyone would be screwed except Athens. The whole 360 degree thing was set by the Babylonians. So we've known it in a while. Yeah, they didn't, they did know that there was about 12 because the Babylonians believe that those people who taught them their man had 12 fingers. Yeah. Really interesting, uh, suspicion about, uh, but I don't know, I get them mixed up Aristotle, uh, Socrates, all of those people. And the question a person was asking was before somebody wrote this thing down, you know, did, did people really were they able to, to question, um, what knowledge was and what, uh, people were actually believing. You know, they would learn some piece of knowledge and then they would, all right, they would speak out this piece of knowledge to other people. And then when enough of them got together and started pointing out the inconsistencies between the sort of poems of knowledge that each of these people have, then they came to some idea of, uh, what a true thing was and how to determine the truth of, uh, some profession, you know, some things, they had the Gallopopolis fools at those days. Gallopolis and then their competitors are the Harrisapolis. Now he's okay. I'm sorry. So what about the euphos? What about the what UFOs? Yeah. Well, that depends which ones. You've been easy in them or not? No. It's, it's my consciousness, uh, there I go. There are those who believe that the oldest of the Hindu texts, the Somaveda, was actually written on another planet and describes the astrology, the astronomy of another planet, that the gods came from another planet and had actually do battles of failure. The, the richies are not demons. They were the native spirits. Hmm. Take that. That's kind of for a while. Yeah. That's interesting actually. So, that's really interesting. That just shows you that there are people around the world who would believe in, in, in, in, in, in, yeah, a lot of stuff. Could, of course, my mindset on it or is that it could happen if enough people believed in it, then it could be true, who knows. No one knows. Well, my wife was waiting for them to come and get her because this place is not a good place for her. Oh, he did, he wrote the story, the, the, the, the, um, what is it? The paths, the garden paths. Oh, I need to find this name for you. Hmm. Hmm. It was an author, a story. He wrote, um, Borchez. Is it? Borchez was, uh, I need to find the story. You'd love, it's about, uh, someone who, they, they began finding artifacts. Um, I think it started with an, it's like, the Peter entry about a country that didn't exist. But when enough people heard about it, they believed that it did exist and on. And the people started finding archaeological artifacts, you know, they would send, uh, they would get students to, uh, try to find these things. And then I don't want to hear about that because we already have enough problems with a big life theory, if the big life would come real, then I don't want to hear about it. Do you know, do you know, that's not the first time that happened. It's not, it actually happened in great ancient Greece, which might be a total shock, but Atlantis was actually not, it didn't exist. It never existed. It was okay. I have a different view on that one. Uh, according to an amateur archaeologist, uh, what the heck was this name? Um, you're getting something. You're, you're in Spanish. He actually, he actually traced, uh, the course that played out of the scribes of Atlantis and found out that that civilization didn't exist. And it was centered in Newtland or in other words Denmark. Well, then he did good research, but he never actually, what we know for fact is he never actually wanted people to go out. If it did happen to be Atlantis, there are two possibilities, or it's a coincidence, which happened all the time, or he just did very good research. He had, he might have had a secretary. He was very good at doing research and just found, oh, there were this place, which sank. And then he was like, ah, I'm going to use that in my next story to teach people about how they should live their lives. Because that's excellent, but it was theorizes the origins of the Celts, called the Celts by the author Gerhard Herm, and it includes some of the stuff on Jürgen Spannis archaeology. Okay. You're in the foot, man, a minute. Yeah, we, oh, yeah, 23.59. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It's nearly six in the morning. Welcome to, oh, you've got to go, you'll join mine. You better take it your piece out first. The other thing with America is that's a big pad break that's in like full different time zones. And this is the first one in the back. So, yes, this is the first one. Yeah. Canada's even bigger than him. So, it's time that I have time zones. Five and a half times zones. Four times zones. That's way too much time zones for me. I live in a country, which has one time zone. And I'm perfectly content for that, because it makes still easier. So, it's some of these lives are joining us in 2020. All right, unfortunately, I still, I don't have a second encounter but it's still 23.59. You better go y'all. Happy new year. Happy new year. It's six. It makes it look a bit more. It makes it look a bit more. I made it to the morning. At least I'm outside and y'all demand you'll be very packed. Is it, is the sun coming up? And no, I don't midnight know. It's six o'clock here. It's five a.m. here in the morning. Yeah, most five a.m. and a hour ago. She could help you, Monji. Yes, we heard. See, my friend from the kind of guy who was sit on the front door. Who's joined us in 2021. You love that, right here. Shotgun. Yeah, I'm there. You don't hunt there with us. Yeah, my grandfather would sit on the front porch on Christmas Eve with a shotgun and he said, one of these days, my God, he was going to get some medicine. Most what time do you say in the U.N.? Eastern when you went in. Yeah, we just did it. It's going to 2021. Yeah, we are. Wait. Yeah. As one of our television comics said, 2020, the year that took years. But that's a good one. That's a good one. You can find it on your face of 2021. It's got to be 2020. 2020. So, just like I'm a time machine. Does anybody want a time machine that can go back to March 2020? Is that mid March, I believe? Anyone up for that? If you would have a time machine to any other time, apart from March, mid 2020. If you had it to like November 2019 or October, whenever Corona got off, it actually started out. Then I would happily take it. And I would risk my life saying to those guys, stop saying the doctors are lying. Yeah. Yeah, because they actually afterwards, they did 3,000 WSR and Q it on. You can you can talk to yourself like back to the future, 2 isn't it? Where he comes back when did the book? And it's like, I'm you from the future. And if you've got this, you know, you're going to win, you're going to have all the money. And you can come and say there's going to be face masks and there's going to be this and that and then you're past you will be like, what you're about? Yeah, generally people will go about their day when they say, yeah, actually, I think I'm like, if you can make it get a rookie to take a bit, yeah, you can make it make out of killing it. Yeah. You could that's really the only way it's possible. Thousands will die from starvation as usual. You can give them a food vaccine, but, you know, how many people are going to go for that unless they themselves feel threatened. You can take a vaccine back to when it started like, if you're that support, vaccine, I will not for taking the vaccine. If you're taking available, I'll take it. Yeah. I'll take it. I'm not going to ask someone I asked about almost an hour ago how old I was in the answer is 68. So yeah. 68. I was the one who asked that question by the way. I'm 15. So that's a little difference in age. So the good friends he has become a good friend in the past year already has six distros to his name and he just turned 11. Six walked. This was up. His legs. He's on Saraswadi. He started out with a Raspberry Pi distro that was based on Linux from scratch as a nine year old kid wrote a Raspberry Pi distro on Linux from scratch. When you say, right, I mean, you know, well, you know, Linux transcript is pretty much writing it, you know, it's put in bits together. I remember nine years old. Yeah, it's not a Lego project. Let me tell you. Yeah, Lego can be complicated sometimes. I have a Lego set where they have to use elastic bands that's not something you find in the normal Lego set. I can do that. When I was a kid, Legos were just the basic blocks. You didn't have these little characters, you know, these little special things. You had to make something out of this. It has become a long way. You still have to make a solid up to box. Now, there is the, when I was a bit younger, I did like Lego thing. I did Lego series and after that, another Lego series about my craft. For the first Lego series, there were, I have two of them and they're complicated, and they're big, they're big, they're massive. And I can hardly move them, and I haven't really, and, and they're dusty. They've become dusty. But, and there's so advanced, you need elastic bands. But with it, I've been blowing people away by telling them that we did not even have a pocket calculator until I was a senior in high school. And that pocket calculator cost $250. What? That's like, that's like a little less than my graphic calculator. Right. Well, and it did probably no more than what you could get at a dollar store these days. What's dollar store? Dollar store? Well, you don't have dollars, yes. I mean, you're a store? Everything for a year old? So basically, a very cheap store. Yes. Yeah. Okay. But, like, I did not have a personal computer of my own until I was 28 years old. I wouldn't have a personal computer. And that was not IBM. There wasn't an IBM computer when I had to do math. I wouldn't have time. I mean, you'd be capable of doing similar things with what you had, as you would, you know, if you were born born today. Like the nine-year-old kid is putting things together, he can put together the things that are available, can't he? Or she? Yes. But he's a good person. He really is. I was just saying, I have an 11-year-old friend that already has six districts to his name. He is maintaining six Linux districts. I don't know. Clearly what that is. But I think it's impressive. What operating system do you run? None. You don't have a computer? What do you want? I do have a computer. But I don't understand, because I do a few things. What do you want in that computer mind? I think Linux, it's Linux. It's Linux. There are hundreds of types of Linux. Each one is assembled by a different person or group of people. Each one of those is a digital. Oh, wow. Wow. That's impressive. Right. This road is short for distribution. He's actually working on a seventh right now. Wow. That's impressive. You have to say it's impressive. He wrote the Ubuntu Unity project. He has Ubuntu Edge, replaces the old Edge Ubuntu project. He's hanging my eye on it. Patrick, do you think about it? No, it destroys. Come on. You just explained it to me. I, I know, but the most stuff that I've ever been in trouble getting out of a room on our wheels while I'm meeting my mic for a bit. The most complicated thing I have ever created with code was in Minecraft Pi because I wanted to make an iceman, a man which could turn stuff to ice with a touch of his blade and everywhere where he walked for snow. It worked and that was the most complicated thing I made. It was with Hamba. Yeah, well, they were talking about putting this road together and maintaining it and stuff. Okay, I'm back. Yeah, mommy will be a little bit, but yeah, this boy is exceptionally, he lives in Delhi, India. Yeah, no. Just an incredible human being. Like, Michael, did I say that we were talking about how there would no young developers, right? Yeah, there we go. They were wrong. Well, there are no SSDL, a guy in UK named Dominic who just turned 21 and he's been running it since 2017. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, there are a lot of young developers. Yes, yes, I'm not one of them. So, oh, many young kind of developers that, well, you have to talk to a Linux foundation and see who they got. Because it's one of them. You're just talking about who many of us did that opening the tunnel. Why does it matter how old they are? What's the purpose? It doesn't know how this tunnel is. Some of the same, they were 15 and I was 68 and wow, look at the difference in age. I go, well, I've got a friend that's younger than that. That's all it was. I think the context of vaccines then wasn't it whether you were to take the vaccine? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was about vaccines. That seems like ages ago because it was 10 minutes ago. The topic changes, like when I came in, it was about kernels. It was about, there was radio silence before that there. Someone asked the question and then some of these things people started answering and that kind of stuff. So, yeah. In kernels or UFOs, both of those things relating to consciousness, you know, and how we make decisions and what kind of mythology and all kinds of things. It's open season on topics here. You've been listening to heck of public radio and heck of public radio.org. We are a community podcast network that release the shows every weekday Monday through Friday. Today's show, like all our shows, was contributed by a HBR listener like yourself. 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