This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3651 for Monday the first of August 2022.
Today's show is entitled, HPR Community News for July 2022.
It is part of the series HPR Community News.
It is hosted by HPR volunteers and is about 49 minutes long.
It carries an explicit flag.
The summary is, HPR volunteers talk about shows released and comments posted in July 2022.
Hi everybody, my name is Ken Falon.
You're listening to another episode of Hacker Public Radio.
This is the commission news for July 2022.
Joining me this evening is, as ever.
Hello Dave Morris here.
It's just the two of us we've switched from Saturday to Sunday today.
Thank you very much Dave, because I have quite a bit gone on here at the moment.
HPR Community News is a show that we do every month.
We've been the two janitors and everybody else is more than welcome to join and we basically
go through all the shows that have been on in the last month.
Welcome to your house and chat about anything else that's been on the main list, that's
you've, that if you have missed it or anything else that's come up.
So, as traditional dictates, can you introduce the new hosts with them their broom of
office?
Yes, indeed we have two, like two excellent companies.
It's wonderful.
We have been our sea and we have Celeste.
So we'll be coming along to their shows as we go through the month shows.
Okay, so the first show that we had was a Houga travel series, open to anybody who wants
to do it, but these are some very good shows starting off with the basics, planning
an RV trip.
Yeah, fascinating, fascinating.
It's not a thing that people do quite the same level in UK, as far as I'm aware.
So it's interesting to hear back.
Yeah, it's my brother did a thing where he flew, he drove in an RV, himself on the
mate was with the US forces in around where he lives and they wanted to do the RV trips
so they did an RV trip right across the company of the US.
And when they got to the, to the west coast, there was that volcano thing.
So they got an extra two weeks, courtesy of an elephant.
Oh, wow.
And there are also not early, so the British Airways paid their additional costs.
So they had the full next two weeks, so they went from up to Seattle the whole way down to
LA.
So they did cross-country and north of very good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That must be great.
And some of this, this name's to a hookah stuff, I think it's great to get insights into
the stuff that goes on and has to take.
So see, not wanting to waffle on about for hours of the show, but okay, right now
now how you come.
Enjoy the show.
I enjoy the show.
I hope you put some pictures of your camper in future episodes.
Also, I wonder if you might try some open source tools in future trips, side by side,
to see how the comparable Google's offer brings the coronavirus says, photos.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Brian.
First, you have to search about my planning process and there are no photos involved
other than screenshots on their company web page, which is linked to those show notes.
And yes, I can vouch for that.
In nature of a search when I talk about the trip itself, their company web page also
have links to photos on my flicker account.
So five, not encountered any open source apps for the trip planning.
Maybe out there, I just haven't found them yet.
Excellent.
The next show was community news, no comments moving on to the next show.
Programming 101, there was one comment by the way, this was a beginner's introduction
to web scraping in Python by Tla Thu and some guy on the internet says, thank you.
I've wanted to learn how to web scrape because I've governed regulation, I need
it as posted online, but if you want an offline copy, before you to purchase a physical
book from a third party, rather than purchase a digital copy in e-pop or PDF, the regulation
changes often and you have to purchase the entire book rather than just the changes.
I'm going to brick a pie a few times to learn web scraping, then you can create my own
digital copy, thanks again.
If anyone can do that, I'm sure it's some guy in the internet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great to have a nation this guy on the internet.
So yeah, I'll be fast and idea how he gets on.
The next one is collective history of rage controller brands, and this is like a mini
series that JWP, who I think works in this sector, has done.
And I'm finding this interesting because it was the time I used to read all the bike
magazines and whatever, and now I don't care as much.
Same here, yes, yes.
It's good to have an insight, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
It was entitled to rage.
I didn't hear much about rage, at least my note says, where was the rage stuff, but still
the ram and ram stuff he was talking about was very interesting.
Yes, definitely.
I did not know at all, so I'm not happy.
I'm bringing you to an end, I think, the series on PEX and plumbing.
This is one I've been able to share and work as all.
Mmm, very good.
There's one comment from DNT, who says, Hacker's plumbing system, this is a great series.
Thanks for putting it together.
This episode in particular, I think we'll be reference of the years with all the tips,
not to ruin your own day.
Very, very good.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
I know he was a little bit nervous about putting forward such a series in the first stages,
but boy, was this a good one?
Yeah, very popular.
And it's also one that I have, whenever I do get time, one of the list things to do
is add some horsepipe to the garden, and I'm going to need to join into
the pegs that they've run over.
So, there you go, I should be using this.
No, it's good, this is exactly, isn't it on intersackers?
Absolutely.
Yes, I would say.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not in the traditional computer programming sense, but just in that, the word dealing with
the world as a Hacker is a fascinating subject.
Yeah.
Anything on that subject would be great.
I mean, we use the word Hacker over here in Hacker Public Radio, but you know, you can also
use the word maker.
So, we're in that end of the spectrum.
Is this a maker thing to do absolutely?
You can come back with a little tool on 3, 6, 5, 3, 5, system, one of these like dashboardy
type things for how to look at your system.
And I installed it at the time just to think, yeah, I'll have a look.
But, since then, I've been using Guru Parallel for a lot of things.
I wanted to see what my system was going to be looking like, and this has been an invaluable
little speedometer dashboard thing.
I think it's a really, really cool.
It takes a few seconds to install it, and I've used it for about five times since this
episode.
Yeah, I also installed it and had a go at it.
But, in my case, I didn't find that it helped me, well, it hasn't helped me yet in comparison
to H2B top and those sorts of things, but the day may well come.
Yeah, it's nice for just, you don't want to be constantly tracking, you just want to
see, okay, I was running, maxing up my system, running parallel.
And then, yes, I had the progress bar, but it was just nice to see, okay, there's
what's going on and stuff.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, cool.
The stuff evil Steve does someone want you to know about this is season one episode
seven, and look and pry on very good little series here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Same actually, but I certainly found this really good and I quite like the two host type
of model with the R Brady Frost joining in exactly that was really good at, it was good
before, but it's just like to hear the so-called dialogue's going on.
Yeah, it does give a little bit of, you know, three-dimensionality, I guess.
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
Yeah.
Each of your feed to SQLite by Norst, wow, this is awesome.
This is awesome.
And you know what, this is awesome.
It means that we need to enrich our feed, Dave, with, because I really would like
to have us, that everything is, yeah, it's in the feed and it's not able to create
each of your website from the full or SS feed, then we've done something wrong.
Yeah, so I think you might be, people from some of the bits.
Yeah, the pictures, the pictures are in the feed, yeah, they aren't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the pictures are in the feed and it's no problem, boss, they've been also linked
to them, I mean.
Yes, yes, yes.
We don't want you to be pedantic about it, but things like the tags and stuff, we should
have that in the feed as well as, actually, though, for sure, yeah.
We would need to extend it, but I'm sure there's something in the awesome specification
that would allow us to do that.
Yeah, cool, cool, the tags are on the internet archive, by the way, as well, no, but just in case
other people didn't know, and you can use them for searching for shows quite nicely on
there.
Yeah, we can do without JavaScript.
Exactly.
And even without, even with JavaScript, what's the point?
The tags themselves are for other sites to index our stuff really, yeah, whereas the
series and holes are to provide context for, and navigation for the website.
That's, that is the difference between the two tags.
One doesn't replace the other, they're both doing two different jobs.
So, can you comment on that?
Daily database dump in SQL format, hacker public radio.org, forward search, HPR, forward
site, dot SQL.
So, hacker public radio.org, forward search, HPR.SQL, run a Chrome job every day and pull
that down, and you've got the HPR database.
Without the comments about the reservations, you're never going to get the reservations.
We will publish the schema, but there is no point, you know, it's got people's personal
IP address in there, and all sorts of apps, so we don't want to do that.
And the comments we will do that later, because it's, I'm looking for a PHP expert to
audit the code.
That code's a lot newer, and that's entirely mine.
So, any, any problems, I'm happy to own them, but back to this episode, this was awesome.
I really, I really like this, and I would like Norse as another one coming up, so let's
reserve for the comments until we get to that.
Yep, good, good, good.
Well, yeah, great.
Very intoprising on his, it said, yeah, it's an impressive thing to do, so yeah, fantastic.
Yes.
And at least points being handed out here left and right, Dave, following day, I posted
the show on some phone issues I had.
I'd been using a primitive FTPD, and then it stopped all of a sudden, so I looked for an alternative,
and found a far better alternative in the form of simple SSHD.
It's on F-Droid, perfect little too.
Yeah, it's literally cooler.
I don't know why I wanted it the most, but so it's good to know when I do.
Because Android lies to you, if you plug it in, everything it does is lying to you.
The only time, it doesn't lie to you is when you're in ADB Android, the Bulgarian Bridge
is root, every other time it's lying to you.
This is the closest thing to not lying to you about the file system that you can get.
And at least then you can, you can just mount your phone as an SSH, SSH, FTP, SSH-F-T, SSH-F-S, sorry.
You can mount it as an SSH-F-S, and you can just copy files over or sync files over, and
you don't have any of this crap that, oh, it's got someone in the SD card and someone
in the internal one, but they're all sending to the change-on-race, blah, blah, blah, so it's just
cool.
I do transfer stuff.
I use KDE Connect for doing it, but that's all I really want to do.
I just want to pull photos off it and that type of thing, and you can set that up so it
always drops in the same place on the target machine and all that sort of thing.
But, yes, I do take your point there, that's still at that level of, you can't look
under here, no, no, I don't live that corner of the garbage, no, stuff like that, yeah.
Well, the reason I use a softener is that I have my phone on the Wi-Fi network, and then
I myself on the wired network, and the Wi-Fi network can I get to the wired network.
So, all right, okay, KDE Connect doesn't work for me, never thought to do that, that would
really mess up my family, yeah, I have to do that.
Lilix in laws, the job interview with Chris Jenkins from Confluent, and we have no comments
about this, but this is about Kafka, very, very enjoyable show, yeah.
And I mean, we use Kafka work a lot, and I completely missed the overall helicopter view,
you know, the configuration and all the rest, but the whole helicopter view of it really
helps, the show really helps just to get an idea of where they're coming from, what the
difference is, how it differs from a regular database, why you would want to use a brilliant
episode, anyone thinking of using Kafka, or thinking of other databases, this is very clearly
experienced here, the reasons why you would use a no-SQL or a relational database, etc.
That is all.
Yeah, I found it most interesting too, I've almost tempted to rebuilding my pie for bees,
at the moment, and wondering whether to put it on there, because it effectively, it's an
event streaming tool, isn't it?
So you can, events can be triggered to it, or a definition of events, I'm not quite sure
how you do that, but I've worked on other systems that do similar things, but it can also
send stuff out as MQTT, if you can figure it out that way, so I'm wondering if that could
be useful component in an IOT's download setup, how they look forward to you're in the show,
is there ever?
If I ever get to it, yes, certainly, on the list, I also, you can also slap a SQL from
10 to a total, cool, yeah, let's dig deeper, that was sound very interesting, and the next
one, expert, DIR usage by Huka, I have to, I know you
haven't used, you're not coming from that branch, you're a true Unixie guy, speaking of which,
I'm listening to the New Year's Show and I'm hearing you talking about VACS systems,
and I've already added a few lines to my get-tave to do a show about this,
but in fact I have Huka, this is good, we have a similar background.
Just in that direction there, I was moving things around in my attic and I found a big pile
of VACS, well, VMS manuals, I think they date from the alpha years, rather than the VMS,
the VACS years, and so I'm not sure what they are, but I think I'm going to bring them deaths,
yes, and I have good look at them, because there might be some gems there because the way
that VMS did things was weird and clunky in some respects, but really clever in others,
and a lot of those people left digital and went to work for Microsoft and made
a various Windows versions based on what they knew from VMS, so there you go.
Cool, the next turn-tale, turn-table, audio capture part two,
buy, archer 72, I revised previous capture scripts, and this, my friends, is the black bush of
shows, because this is exactly what I am needing. Whenever all this other crap is done,
I still have an hour-a-hole box of tapes and stuff to be archived, this shall help.
The shame, language not correct, syntax or lying turn, this will help.
Yeah, we know, we know what you mean.
Yes, now it's good, Archim, do you do some custom amazing stuff, I'm really impressed with wheels.
How are you put together this type of thing, and he's got the pictures done to, to an art form now,
I think, so very good. Yes, everything you need, you can actually just listen to the, you know,
browse the pictures, which I invariably forget to extract, and then why does this look so crap?
Ah, I haven't extracted all the pictures, but okay, there you go, echo, but yes, very, very good.
Um, following day, we had an interview with Vitali, I think, the, you can tell me, yes, yeah,
I think so. Another one of operators, I think, uh, operations cohorts back in the ethical hacking,
uh, dead, depending on the local, you know, you're fantastic, that's what we're calling it, yeah.
Yes, I enjoyed, this was good. This was, wow, this was amazing, I mentioned this to my
son, so yesterday you have a, have a wee listen to it, because he's not, not using the security
into things, but he now works for a big, big company that, to probably will do pen testing
from time to time, and he might find this quite an insight into, into that world, so yeah, I,
I found this utterly fascinating. Um, so yeah, thank you very much, I'll break such a thing.
Kevin O'Brien says in the comments, great show, I hope you guys do more shows together,
this is a lot of fun, and thanks for the shout out, but did you record this a long time ago?
You mentioned shows I did back in 2019, 2020. I think, uh, operator says, this is a lost interview,
I never uploaded, so I assume that means it, in fact, is actually fun, and some corner or
or other, so yeah, it does look like it's an older one. But this is hit for your time,
has a different meaning here. Put it, it didn't attract from its quality,
totally, absolutely, not, not amazing, amazing. Um, we have been our C, my computing history,
and the software I use, and we have lots of comments. First, Arture 72, first shows, the title,
that was a good first show. I'd like to hear more about C programming, which I know nothing about.
Also, I think you will have another friend here who likes BSDs, audio is just fine,
keep it up, smiley face. And now I'll do, uh, no, no, it's, oh, planning, planning. They say,
so interesting future shows, hopefully you will do a show on your spirit, experience about
can I? I forgot, and I'd come into it on this one. Um, I said to myself, yeah, I realized that,
as you, as I was just about to start the, you know, the noise from, um, I said, an excellent
first show, and joined this a lot. It sounded really good and had a lot of interesting content.
I'd like to hear more about modern BSD. I used to use proprietary Unix's, based on BSD back in the
day. For example, Sunnors on Sunnors, not much. Deck Ultrax on Deck MIP systems, Deck Station
decks over daily for several years, and OSF-1, PSP, and later true 64 Unix on Deck Health is a little. So,
we're now moving to Linux at work, and at home, so I'm out of touch with the way BSD has developed.
And Ryan and Ohio said, future show, I've all for planning. Do you know what I love?
Is that the community is now doing my job for me? You know, listen to the show also,
thank God. Hey, I want to lose the show. Well, like this. Excellent. Do feel free to do this, people.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, absolutely. And it's also good feedback for the host that, you know,
people listening, people interested, people want more. So, what could be better all around?
And it gets over this. Old people won't be interested in the show about blah, you know. And
I think the, the game is up Dave, as far as we're concerned, people know that we will just say,
yes, we'd love to show about blah, but these, these are real requests, not these are real requests,
but that's just that kind of Dave requests. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's the way.
Now, another new host, Kim-in, uh, Celeste, I believe, Pivot Machine Repairs.
And there was a guy in work who's contractor, who's temporarily not working anymore, has huge
hobby of repairing pinball machines. So, I was very interested in the show.
How many of you have someone you two said? Is it mine or yours? I think it's actually mine,
because you did. Yeah, that's one thing. Go, go, go, go, go. That's just 72 says pinball machines
and English. That was interesting. I remember working at a place that assembled the lighting back
planes for these machines. I would get to play on the machines at lunch. Two of the memorable ones
were star wars. The Adam families and last action heroes. Oh, and your English is just
fine. You might find Dave Morris's series on the English. It is synchrysis, a good listen,
starting with, and he refers to, show two double five at your badly with English part. One.
So, thank you very much, Charles. 72 for the citation. And I would say, don't.
Well, that's right. I don't think it's English is a weird language, and it's one of the things
I'm trying to convey. It's got some very strange things in it, which are quite hard. If you're
not learning it as a child, you know. Absolutely. Trace says, welcome. This pinball repair project
sounds like so much fun. Thank you for sharing your experiences. And I'm looking forward to your
next podcast. You have to do a new podcast now. Also, please don't worry about the pronunciation
of English word. It was easy to understand everything you said. I listened at 1.5 speed. Welcome.
That's great. Yeah. Brian and Ohio says sand scape. You could do a show recording the sand
playing the pinball machine. It eliminates the no time to do a show problem. I'm assuming you have
time to play. It's my only face. And I support that. That's a brilliant idea. Thanks Brian.
Yeah, that would be fun with that. Yeah, I wouldn't do a listening to that. And
you're in. Come in with a how to set up a Linux Word R VPN, basically reading a zone
blog, publish at the same time with your problems with that. Yeah, absolutely. I sailed over my
head to teeny bit. And then I saw the blog reference and opened it up. Wow. I didn't know
how to read it. Exactly. It's really good quality stuff. So yeah, definitely recommend everybody
goes and reads that. Where you are, just something I set up once about every 18 months or so. And
you know, just enough time to know that I've done this in the past. But also just enough time to
have completely forgotten how I did this in the past. Or the software or something. It's so much
that it's changed. Oh, yeah. Now Brian and Ohio is kind of a jealous person. Now I saw one to one of
those. Oh, our Slackware fourth or my description of a laptop. And the laptop in question is
the pie top. I really want to run a just have a Raspberry Pi with a slider keyboard and a screen
basically everything you want. But they're a horrendously expensive. Yeah, yeah. I remember seeing
them and thinking, nah, not for me. But yeah, really cool machine. I was impressed by the way, Brian
mastered the one of the shortcomings. Yeah. But the battery is something that he's built in an
Arduino that monitors the battery level. So yeah, wow, very, very impressive. I'm going to show
what you can do is such a thing that you can get inside the guts of it as well. Yeah, exactly. But
Brian can very well know that I know he messes with Arduino. We can expect, well, I already knew
that from the fourth episode. So yeah, more shows on hardware hacking, please. Thanks. Brian, no pressure.
And Ron has been doing some weekend projects. I love this recycling. And Ron shared our
patio umbrella thing, broke and he fixed it and it's cool. Yeah, it's a nice solution, actually.
Isn't it? Yeah. I think I've used that that he constantly impregnated tape to
mend a leaky pipe at one point in a flash. I've got a lived in because that used to be a sort of
plumbing, do dad. It's a cloth soaked in epoxy. I don't quite sure how it makes it set, but anyway,
whatever. But it's yeah, what a great idea. I'd have been heading down the same road of putting a
big dowel down there or getting a larger pipe to put around the outside or something like that.
Then it would have gone through the hole and he's found a great solution there. Exactly. Just like
scrunchies. Super useful. Yes, indeed. And a response to tomorrow's show. God, that was a pin in the
earth's to do. Yeah, it was about statistics on HPR and my view on how useless they are.
Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed listening to this. It was really good. It was a career.
No, it's sort of needs more study than listening to the audio while you're washing up or something.
But still, well, worth a dig into, I think. Yeah, people, the show notes are there. The full text
of the show notes. And yeah, it brings up a little bit of a question. Is HPR a podcast hosting
platform or are we a podcast? I want to mean by that is where are we a YouTube where you upload
to a particular channel and you build your presence and whatever. And I never thought we were,
but I've been here from the start. So I also don't see why you would think where that but
we are more like they what's that? What's that radio program on the BBC where
moment of reflection, where a vicar or an imum or a priest or somebody comes on to say,
are we a pair of the day? Thought for the day? Thought for the day? It's where more thought for the
day. Every day a new host comes on and gives their thought for the day be the whatever.
That's HPR. Except tech. So if your father, father Murphy comes on and does the show for
it's not father Murphy's show, it's father Murphy on. Paul for the day. Yes, yes. That, I think I've been
here now for nearly 10 years and I'd least listened before that and that was certainly the
model that I read into what I was listening to. It is a means whereby people can put up post-its
as it were, virtual post-its or just generally think, oh, just look at this today. I can tell
other people about it and here we go rather than being a vehicle for people to build their own
preferences on the internet. Not that we would, I mean, we don't not do that,
to randomly post. I still haven't figured out the algorithm by which tattoo puts stuff on HPR
or versus on a good new world order. If he's got children, what's he put someone
on HPR or I suppose? Maybe so. Any other or some comments? You're going to do it.
Yeah, I'll do the first one. Who's turn is it? I'll do it. Long-term locker,
known unknowns. This is fascinating Ken and as you alluded to, it's impossible to factor in people
like me who to lead some HPR episodes without listening to them. Anything by tattoo is an instant
listen. Anything by Leningson Laws is an instant release. Oh, that hurt.
Move back. The beauty of HPR is the broad selection and unpredictability. I think the
spirit of HPR would be destroyed. If it was worth become a podcast, just a distribution service
for podcasters looking to exploit HPR's ready-made audience. Okay. So we happened to comment from
somebody whose angle is E. I've been slash. I've been why. I'm sure this has been so long. I've missed.
Hey, no. Yeah, it could be a lead to Z. Easy, right. My eyes can do lead.
It's okay. It's too old. Okay, the font doesn't hold for as well. You look at the model.
No, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it probably does work in other fonts. And it also depends on the
browser probably to listen. Anyway, the comment was only interviews. Only listen to the interviews.
Not sure how Ken is going to factor that into the calculation. It's a smiley face.
No, I'm not doing any more freck and studs. Thank you.
Well, and this is yesterday's show was in response to this show, which was
Linux in laws 20 years of review. And they kind of had a spoof of going back it, going forward
in time and then back in time. I was a bit annoyed that HPR stopped some five years, Dave.
Why would that be anything? Yeah, I mean, do something about that, must be nice. Okay.
And the last show at the 29th is major destinations, building a plan around major destinations
and using membership to get discounted stays. This is the Lucas travel series, obviously,
for the RV thing. But I was also listening to this show thinking, yeah, I want to actually make
use of nice trains are being pushed here in Europe as well. A series of how
basically would like to go with my daughter or whatever around for a few city breaks on
night trains, you know, arrive somewhere, sleep during the night or arrive somewhere, spend the day,
get in the train, come back home. That type of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, that's it. What else was that? That was, yeah, I was just going to comment on
who could show it saying that the, I hadn't realized that he was towing an RV. I seem to just
want to be sort of long band, I think, because they were the ones I saw most of in your
cemetery when I took my kids there. But the, is it not, what was that? I didn't think he was towing
us. He is, yeah, he said so, yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a toy. He was saying when you're towing
you have to restrict yourself to 60 miles an hour, or he did see you. And he's also talking
about going finding a low bridge and realizing it was a low bridge just as he approached it,
stopping and then having to get out of that place with a, if you're not skilled at reversing
with the trailer, I certainly wouldn't be. That's not what you said, but I'm just guessing
what you're saying. So, and also his, his RV is 13 feet tall, because that isn't meters. So,
it's a mess of people. So, yeah, I wonder what it's like in the, we have it four
months of a zombie setup. Absolutely, absolutely. I'd love to know what it's like in a, in a heavy
crosswind, you know, come around the edge of an edge of a hill or something or mountain or
cliff. And it moves you across. And this is, yeah. Kind of. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I'm fascinated
to know more about this. It's, anyway, very interesting series. Yeah. Okay, cool, comments on other
shows. Though, there's a long comment on by D&T on, uh, using task warrior to structure as your
work, which was a, you ruined back and show from 2020. D&T said, I saw your most recent episode
under reminded me of this one. I had heard of task warrior many times in this show, you explained
how you can set weights for different attributes of which the urgency score is calculated.
And by that, you can sort your mess of things you wish you would do. That proved too
irresistible, irresistible to my little brain. I, it really is the one thing that sets it apart.
Having succumbed via vendor luck in at work to a less free and more convenient option,
I am not using task warrior anymore, but I did for a good while. And I think it is
the most impressive to do list application out there. So thanks for the show.
That's a really good comment on the test. I used to use task warrior at work for a while.
Then I stopped when I retired. And listening to your ins show, I did
plunge back into task warrior, but then a week had gone by and I'd forgotten it. I'd actually
forgot to go into it. So I don't know what that says about me, but I don't think it is really
thing that sticks with me. But I can see that somebody has different mindset, different approach,
could get a lot of effort. So that's really cool. Good comment.
So we have a comment from operator to operator who says installer changed. Because you can't
install only key with that local admin, not even set, compact player equals runners in vocal works.
And he gives a link to one of his scripts to pretty many get randoms. I've not actually looked
to be honest. Cool. How are we going to tackle the website thing?
Okay, well I'll do the first one. And this is a response to a comment in any case I would like
this about source code for the HP or website. In any case, the quote is any case I would like to
be in the loop. Some sort of website working group could be great to have discussions without
filling up the mail list. Good point. We'll move the discussions after the community use
to the wider community can have their say. I just started and then this is Roll's point. I just
started the HP or site generation project, which is currently hosted on GitLab and points to a link.
I propose to move the general discussion about the HP or website project code to the projects
issue tracker from an official location is set up. If this is acceptable, please create an issue
with the label general discussion, blah, blah, blah. I refer to some form of
more mailing list discussions, but I would like I don't wish to get too much work for the
janitors of anonymous hosts. Okay, you do Chris's response? Chris says I second the above motion.
Jason track, yes, sorry. It's okay, I'll do it. Anyone else interested? I would be interested
in helping develop an upload API. I have contemplated an HP or recording app that would help
record editors and posts to show from reform or tablet. Also have ideas from a command line script,
which reads a file that has various upload fields in it and then posts to the website. From
the GNUX install from my GNUX install adventures, I was looking to become more familiar with scheme
and possibly go. So starting working on a script to upload the show, don't have anything work yet.
I will now create a SCM file with various fields definitions and writing my show notes.
Then I just copy and paste them into the browser input fields. Not that a script program
couldn't make the post calls to the song location, that the same location at the platform does,
but it's easier to parse the response, particularly our responses. Have you got your runes?
Yes, sorry, my year, I seem to go around in a loop. But yes, I have. Yes, just my small two cents
in this discussion, maybe Elm is a nice solution and he refers to Twitter tweets.
Okay, cool. Chris replies, hi, Ron. Thanks for the seconding this. I've such a script based
on Python framework called CVDM, which is an integral part of the MLS publishing workflow around
HPR. The trouble is that there is a painting, a painting, as for example, a change to the
upload page structure content has the potential to easily break the script. A couple of
Europe's back, I came with a high level design of such an API. I published this on the HPR
GitLab instance, see my previous remarks, but apparently the document is finished in the
midst of time. I haven't heard back from Ken and Dave. I'm a previous email. I'm sure
I'll see if I can dig this out and share with you in a more public place and we can take it from there.
So, you said, you want to, is it you next? Yeah, I thread. Okay, the HPR website has been updated
to support emails with no spam.no spam, so we can release the database easier. This is involved
a lot of changes to a lot of the web pages, so it seems, while it all seems fine, can you report
any issues? Thanks. And that's related to the publishing of the SQL database, which we wanted to
do. We didn't want to release the emails for stored as regular emails and now we're stored
instead of geobloggetexample.com. We're storing them physically. We used to read geobloggetexample.com
and then when we published on the website, we published it as geoblog.no spam at no spam.example.com.
And now we just saved it in the database as geoblog.no spam as no spam.example.com. And then when we
use it, we strip out the things. So that way, it's by default safer. Okay, unfortunately you're next.
This spam, exactly, is also from you. And it seems to have gone okay. The geoblog page now has
a link to the database dump in SQL. So the link is hackable.progredio.org for such HPR.es
URL. I'll start working on the template from Realms, HPR Generator. Next, to get the site produced.
First, focusing on the static pages, not linked to the database. However, don't let that
stop you have a look at the database and see how you can produce your own nurse mirror site with
the tools of your choice. And I go on to say, we've held back the comments and reservations table
from the database exports for now. Expect the comments to be updated shortly. I'm looking
for some trusted experts told at the PHP code behind the comments system. Recommendations are
welcome. The reservations table schema will be made public with the reservations with the
reservation system, although I doubt that the data will ever be published. Publishing it has no
value as the entries are removed once the show is posted. And it contains the hosts IP address.
So on a Chromek says high-canned stroke janitors, any chance to get the old Git lab instance up
once again, I suppose if you want to go down the route Linux in those series one episode, if you want
to get like structure may come in handy. And I pointed that to Josh, who said the Git lab server
has gone for over a year, not the server is long gone and pointed to a replacement. However,
Chris then says, for those interested in processing the possible API as part of the HPO website,
you'll find somewhat old proposal and taken to account the Git T instance feedback
implementation as a curve proposal are welcome in the interest of getting the actual size of
the community with this would be interested to see if the hosts reading this actually use some
sort of automation work for publishing the content HPO perhaps might show an interest in such an
API project. So yeah, boiling things down I guess the real question that we need to have answered
is if there were, if there were, to be an API, who would use it? Because you've got to write code
to use it. It's not just a case of walking up to a format fill in in fields, which as we heard
Rowan does by offering up window and kind of an impassing one to another, which is what I do as
well and it's pretty convenient way of doing things. So who would use an API if there was one?
That would be the question to ask. Do you think, can? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean,
I design APIs for a living actually, while the designing of APIs is the easy part, it's the
whole system behind that that becomes more complex. So I'm not against having an API,
we could have a swagger file, but designing will want to use it, I really like to know.
Okay, and Dave, rounding off the show, some very, very sad news. Do you want to read it for a
show? Yeah, I think we both became aware through Twitter and Macedon of the recent death of Oliver,
normally known as Ollie Clark, who has been quite an important person in the inverse tech community
forums and so on. He certainly spoke to him an old camp and he's been involved in the bar
camps quite a lot and also in the Raspberry Pi Jams as well. So he was a great enthusiast to
teach all manner of stuff. I think the Raspberry Pi Jams was a great vehicle for doing that.
Sadly, he died in November last year and it was COVID that they got him. Unfortunately,
his family didn't know how to get the message out to the wider communities, so he didn't have
passwords or anything to do that. So it's only come to light, his departure has only come to light
in the past few weeks. Extremely sad. Yeah, very. I was going to say I collected his Twitter
message on flicker and website and stuff like that together just in case anybody wants to, you know,
go and remember him through such a vehicle. And if we have a call out for how we can
pass on our messages of condolence to his family, to me he was just the backbone of
on-camp all was there. And anytime I asked for an infuse, it was like, you know, you're busy with
the soundboard and I, you know, I want you to assure her to say, so I was shocked to discover I
hadn't an interview with him, but it's always because he was busy helping out and stuff.
Yeah, he was going to be deep in some, something I'd rather to do with the without camp,
for sure. Yeah. And even even pictures of our camp tended to have, but you know,
Dan Lynch, Oli and some other random person.
This panda was often there. Yeah, very good there. Sorry. Yeah. Poor,
Poppy. Yeah, very sad news. I need to tell me about all the shows in archive.org
is to how we go. It's just a, just a counter that's incrementing. So, I managed to get 145 shows
processed to the way that we would like them to be since the last community news. So,
just by doing five a day. So, yeah. So, there we go. Okay, um, that's it. Dave, thanks for the
postponing the time. I'll try and process this now straight away. And, uh, tune in tomorrow
folks for another exciting episode of Hacker. Oh, Blake. Oh, radio, radio.
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