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JWP is a linux follower - has a linux job and lives the life of a free Texan in the World making Texas where ever he might be.
This link was the first product and it is not available any more.
This link tells you about all the different ways to do next cloud.
The link above is what worked exactly for me.
The link above is about what OMV is.
Is were I got my image.
I use a Toshiba 4TB non-powered drive external usb 3 drive.
A short basic info about VNF
SAP Hana certification is a long and hard process covered at
Raid 6 is a take of raid 5 but with support for 2 drive protection.
So I went to the open networking trade show sponsored by the Linux Foundation with Ken Fallon’s help.
The first thing they talked about was ONAP.
A short podcast about the shutdown command
- Use Gparted for the SD card
- Use Etcher from Resin.Io
- Use the normal external hard drive file os.
A short show about running Debian on windows.
Yes it really works.
Been going through my old work servers.
They typically run until I can't update them anymore and then sit not used until I have a bit of free time. So I have an old intergraph box in it that I new pentium 4 motherboard from about 8 years back. I had the receipt taped to the inside of the box. And the Expense statement from work. I had centos 6.0 on it try as it must It got no more updates and repros. It also has a weak PSU as I had to remove the DVD and graphics card to get to work.
Intergraph Corporation is an American software development and services company. It provides enterprise engineering and geospatially powered software to businesses, governments, and organizations around the world. Intergraph operates through three divisions: Hexagon PPM, Hexagon Safety & Infrastructure, and Hexagon Geospatial. The company's headquarters is in Huntsville, Alabama, USA. In 2008, Intergraph was one of the 100 largest software companies in the world. In 2010, Intergraph was acquired by Hexagon AB. Intergraph was founded in 1969 as M&S Computing, Inc., by former IBM engineers who had been working with NASA and the U.S. Army in developing systems that would apply digital computing to real-time missile guidance. The company was later renamed to Intergraph Corporation in 1980. In 2000, Intergraph exited the hardware business and became purely a software company. On July 21, 2000, it sold its Intense3D graphics accelerator division to 3Dlabs, and its workstation and server division to Silicon Graphics. The companies incorporated SmartSketch, a drawing program used previously for the PenPoint OS and EO tablet computer. When Pen computing did not take off, SmartSketch was ported to the Windows and Macintosh platforms. https://www.cnet.com/news/intergraph-delivers-cheap-workstations/
The new TD-300 and TD-400 "Personal Workstations" offer 3D graphics capabilities equal to or below the prices of PCs configured as 3D workstations, the company said. The TD-300 and TD-400 Personal Workstations are available immediately, with prices starting at $5,495. http://www.intergraph.com/about_us/history_90s.aspx
So the box now has a Pentium 4 dual core in it which is 64 bit. This chip is 2004-2007. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4
So I have the ubuntu 32 bit work. And Suse Enterprise 12, tumbleweed and leap on hyperV. I had my Transmeta box on Debian I386 32 bit. So I need a redhat flavor. Since its 64 bit I picked CentOS. https://www.centos.org/
What is CentOS?
CentOS (/ˈsɛntɒs/, from Community Enterprise Operating System) is a Linux distribution that attempts to provide a free, enterprise-class, community-supported computing platform functionally compatible with its upstream source, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). In January 2014, CentOS announced the official joining with Red Hat while staying independent from RHEL, under a new CentOS governing board. In July 2010, CentOS overtook Debian to become the most popular Linux distribution for web servers, with almost 30% of all Linux web servers using it. Debian retook the lead in January 2012.
In January 2014, Red Hat announced that it would sponsor the CentOS project, "helping to establish a platform well-suited to the needs of open source developers that integrate technologies in and around the operating system". As a result of these changes, ownership of CentOS trademarks was transferred to Red Hat, which now employs most of the CentOS head developers; however, they work as part of Red Hat's Open Source and Standards team, which operates separately from the Red Hat Enterprise Linux team. A new CentOS governing board was also established.
CentOS developers use Red Hat's source code to create a final product very similar to RHEL. Red Hat's branding and logos are changed because Red Hat does not allow them to be redistributed. CentOS is available free of charge. Technical support is primarily provided by the community via official mailing lists, web forums, and chat rooms. CentOS version numbers for releases older than 7.0 have two parts, a major version and a minor version, which correspond to the major version and update set of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) used to build a particular CentOS release. For example, CentOS 6.5 is built from the source packages of RHEL 6 update 5 (also known as RHEL version 6.5), which is a so-called "point release" of RHEL 6.
Starting with version 7.0, CentOS version numbers also include a third part that indicates the monthstamp of the source code the release is based on. For example, version number 7.0-1406 still maps this CentOS release to the zeroth update set of RHEL 7, while "1406" indicates that the source code this release is based on dates from June 2014. Using the monthstamp allows installation images to be reissued for (as of July 2014) oncoming container and cloud releases, while maintaining a connection to the related base release version.
Since mid-2006 and starting with RHEL version 4.4, which is formally known as Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 update 4, Red Hat has adopted a version-naming convention identical to that used by CentOS (for example, RHEL 4.5 or RHEL 6.5). AltArch releases are released by the Alternative Architecture Special Interest Group (AltArch SIG) to supporThere are three primary CentOS repositories (also known as channels), containing software packages that make up the main CentOS distribution: base - contains packages that form CentOS point releases, and gets updated when the actual point release is formally made available in form of ISO images. updates - contains packages that serve as security, bugfix or enhancement updates, issued between the regular update sets for point releases. Bugfix and enhancement updates released this way are only those unsuitable to be released through the CentOS-Fasttrack repository described below. addons - provides packages required for building the packages that make up the main CentOS distribution, but are not provided by the upstream. The CentOS project provides several additional repositories that contain software packages not provided by the default base and updates repositories. Those repositories include the following: CentOS Extras - contains packages that provide additional functionality to CentOS without breaking its upstream compatibility or updating the base components. CentOSPlus - contains packages that actually upgrade certain base CentOS components, changing CentOS so that it is not exactly like the upstream provider's content. CentOS-Testing - serves as a proving ground for packages on their way to CentOSPlus and CentOS Extras. Offered packages may or may not replace core CentOS packages, and are not guaranteed to work properly. CentOS-Fasttrack - contains bugfix and enhancement updates issued from time to time, between the regular update sets for point releases. The packages released this way serve as close candidates for the inclusion into the next point release. This repository does not provide security updates, and does not contain packages unsuitable for uncertain inclusion into point releases. CR (Continuous Release) - makes generally available packages that will appear in the next point release of CentOS. The packages are made available on a testing and hotfix basis, until the actual point release is formally released in form of ISO images. debuginfo - contains packages with debugging symbols generated when the primary packages were built contrib - contains packages contributed by CentOS users that do not overlap with any of the core distribution packages Software Collections - provides versions of software newer than those provided by the base distribution, see above for more details
The end of support on my box is currently 2024. During my setup I let the centos do something with LVM the drive had two WD 320GB disks. One was very hot so I moved it so it have some more air.
In Linux, Logical Volume Manager (LVM) is a device mapper target that provides logical volume management for the Linux kernel. Most modern Linux distributions are LVM-aware to the point of being able to have their root file systems on a logical volume.
Heinz Mauelshagen wrote the original LVM code in 1998, taking its primary design guidelines from the HP-UX's volume manager. LVM is used for the following purposes: Creating single logical volumes of multiple physical volumes or entire hard disks (somewhat similar to RAID 0, but more similar to JBOD), allowing for dynamic volume resizing. Managing large hard disk farms by allowing disks to be added and replaced without downtime or service disruption, in combination with hot swapping. On small systems (like a desktop), instead of having to estimate at installation time how big a partition might need to be, LVM allows filesystems to be easily resized as needed. Performing consistent backups by taking snapshots of the logical volumes. LVM can be considered as a thin layer of continuity and ease-of-use for managing hard drive replacement, repartitioning and backup. software layer on top of the hard disks and partitions, which creates an abstraction Basic functionality Volume groups (VGs) can be resized online by absorbing new physical volumes (PVs) or ejecting existing ones. Logical volumes (LVs) can be resized online by concatenating extents onto them or truncating extents from them. LVs can be moved between PVs. Creation of read-only snapshots of logical volumes (LVM1), or read-write snapshots (LVM2). VGs can be split or merged in situ as long as no LVs span the split. This can be useful when migrating whole LVs to or from offline storage. LVM objects can be tagged for administrative convenience. VGs and LVs can be made active as the underlying devices become available through use of the lvmetad daemon.
Setup with CentOS is not as simple as linux mint or ubuntu and very different than debian. You have to click and know a little about what you doing. For me with the basic 500GB install disk I got only a bare server with ssh. The machine was having power issues and would not boot from a usb stick so I had to go through 4 different DVD drives until I found one that worked with the DVD-R format. I had to use another deskop and power the DVD threw the other desk up connecting only the sata port the IDE drive was not working well either on this old board.
I had to remove the old centos 6 from the drives using Gparted. There were errors with the gparted but the centos installer worked great after I removed ext4 part of the lvms.
GParted is a free partition editor for graphically managing your disk partitions.
With GParted you can resize, copy, and move partitions without data loss,
Getting the mirrors working and getting it to work through a fire wall was pretty hard I had to make two config changes to the yum.conf one with the proxy address and the other to allow http cache. I also used
export_proxy=to get it work globally. I had really trouble finding a fast mirror but I did not give up hope after a while it found fast mirrors that I got over 2MB per second from.
So I installed Gnome and made boot up at startup I will install x2go or vncserver on it also just in case I need it.
After some time of playing with it I was able to get it to fully update.
I then moved to the server room, got the IP address and connected it it from putty. I think the advantage of this box is that I will always have a Redhat 7 install ready to demo or learn something without having to setup a lot of things.
So what is the purpose - I had an old windows backup workstation at work that I did a lot backups with. It got to the point where it was just too slow and low spec to handle the windows 7 updates and with my company switching to the 365/sharepoint/one drive it was not needed anymore. So I wanted not to throw it away as I had sprung for 160GB hard drive a long time ago. “I know at work and purchasing a hard drive for work.” But it lasted more than 10 years doing my outlook backups and file shares.
So my first problem was I was pretty sure I only had 32 bit.
So no centos or suse in 32 bit. I could have went fedora but I wanted a really long time with support. So it came down to ubuntu 16.04, Debian or Net BSD with I386 repos I could use long term. I was more comfortable with Ubuntu and 16.04 has about 3 years support left on it.
Its a small form factor computer so I carried it home for a few days. And got the ISO down loaded again no usb drive boot only DVD.
So what is it. I did a uname -a and and looked at the proc cpu to see what the cpu was.
The second linked worked best.
I had a lot of trouble with lamp and own/next cloud with both snaps and straight install. I broke the install several times. In the end I said what do really know how do well with it right now. So I installed Open SSH server, tightVNC, A really thin xfce 4, ffmpeg and youtube-dl and uget. So I will play with snaps only in the future and keep this basic config.
Note I did not auto start VNC because I found in my creations of this server that it used too much RAM vs just starting it and killing it.
It is the perfect video processing machine in the moment. If youtube-dl can’t get it I can use uget via vnc and that will then transcode if needed. Mostly for mp3.
http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ youtube-dl is a command-line program to download videos from YouTube.com and a few more sites. It requires the Python interpreter, version 2.6, 2.7, or 3.2+, and it is not platform specific. It should work on your Unix box, on Windows or on Mac OS X. It is released to the public domain, which means you can modify it, redistribute it or use it however you like.
I will work on the nextcloud snap and other snaps as they are easy to install or remove without hurting the base system.
Possible other projects - Owncloud or Storj
One you can make a little money with it :)
hpr2417 :: Transmeta Crusoe - Fujitsu-Siemens Futro S210 (ThinClient) - Trouble Shooting and Debian 9 InstallReleased on 2017-11-07 under a CC-BY-SA license.
I did the long awaited basement clean up project.
lots of old geeky stuff went to the bins and recycle yards :(
The Transmeta company made chips around 2000 and made chip x86 ready though a software layer. Since I love almost anything that is not Intel it was a match made in heaven.
The best info I found about the FSI 210 was at this site:
Fujitsu-Siemens Futro S210 (ThinClient)
If you want to do a project at raspberry PI prices just go to Ebay and type Futro - they have a lot of Thin clients with other chips.
About the chip:
A short show about the weather in Texas and Germany, Oggcamp 2017 and my Server room. I have been having trouble with my Raspberry Pi collection being too large and new in the box.
Just a quick show about Hortonworks and what they do.
They are the biggest contributor to the Apache Hadoop project.
Based on my limited knowledge of our founding documents. I have read them a few times and had a few basic classes about our founding documents. So I am not lawyer or Professor just a normal person with a very normal education. I did see the starting documents at the national archive last sept 2016 and they are real and can be publicly read.
Overall the opensuse con 2017 was a great event. Lots of talks, they had guy with 16 Raspberry PIs in a storage cluster and list goes on and on. Many of the folks there were suse employees or Open Cloud employees but they really had their passions down.
Ubuntu 16.04 is running fine on my MS surface tablet and is wife friendly.
Living Computers: Museum + Labs (LCM+L) is a computer and technology museum located in the SoDo neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. LCM+L showcases vintage computers which provide interactive sessions, either through time-sharing operating systems or single-user interfaces. This gives users a chance to actually use the computers on-line or in person in the museum. An expansion adds direct touch experiences with contemporary technologies such as virtual reality, self-driving cars, the internet of things, and robotics. This puts today's computer technology in the context of how it's being used to tackle real-world issues. LCM+L also hosts a wide range of educational programs and events in their state-of-the art classroom and lab spaces.
Well basically the stick out of the box was not very usable. I had to struggle with it for a long time to make it work for me doing even the most basic tasks. I went to http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/ and things got better.
Hi. I purchased the first MS Pro on ebay after hearing of a like project on the Linux Action Show. I do a lot of traveling and I am always feeling bad about not having a something with open source on it.
So one of the best for travel is the MS surface pro.
In short it works great with Ubuntu.
I recently heard an HPR Podcast where it was mentioned that Nano was not a real text editor. That somehow VI or Emacs or Kate or Gedit were in some way better than Nano. I just wanted to set the record straight that Nano is a serious editor that has a huge following and a facebook page.
I was reading Linux Voice I heard Dave Morriss talking about shows and made a sort one about Neofetch 1.5. Its a command that displays system information.
The only one that I found was non profit was debain. It a real nonprofit certification in the USA.
tree - list contents of directories in a tree-like format.
tree [-adfghilnopqrstuvxACDFNS] [-L level [-R]] [-H baseHREF] [-T title] [-o filename] [--nolinks] [-P pattern] [-I pattern] [--inodes] [--device] [--noreport] [--dirsfirst] [--version] [--help] [--filelimit #] [directory ...]
Tree is a recursive directory listing program that produces a depth indented listing of files. Color is supported ala dircolors if the LS_COLORS environment variable is set, output is to a tty, and the -C flag is used. With no arguments, tree lists the files in the current directory. When directory arguments are given, tree lists all the files and/or directories found in the given directories each in turn. Upon completion of listing all files/directories found, tree returns the total number of files and/or directories listed.
By default, when a symbolic link is encountered, the path that the symbolic link refers to is printed after the name of the link in the format:
name -> real-path
If the '-l' option is given and the symbolic link refers to an actual directory, then tree will follow the path of the symbolic link as if it were a real directory.
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Website: http://www.nano-editor.org/nano is a text editor for Unix-like computing systems or operating environments using a command line interface. It emulates the Pico text editor, part of the Pine email client, and also provides additional functionality. In contrast to Pico, nano is licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). Released as free software by Chris Allegretta in 1999, today nano is part of the GNU Project.
The BTRFS File System
The zfs File System
The xfs File System
The FAT and NTFS File Systems
The JFS File System
The reiserfs File System
The Ext3 and 4 File System
The Journaling File System
The Ext2 File System
The Ext File System
Show Title - Short Xen Update From JWP
In the Tilts 507 Rus came on as the Xen project manager. Had a lot to say about Xen but not about how xen is funded in the linux foundation by who.
In the course of preparing for the podcast I learned that is not easy to see who gives money to the linux foundation. But Oracle is on the board directors along with all the major players in the IT space.
I also learned weather it is type 1 or type 2 hypervisor it is not clear as it used to be. At work I do not get very many requests for anything but ESX, HyperV or KVM in that order. Once in a while a Xen or Oracle VM comes up. This might change with the open stack a bit but I am not sure.
A good start to look at it is here: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-hypervisorcompare/
A better view of the real state of type 1 vs type 2 is here
With x2go you can access your desktop using another computer -- that means both LAN and internet connections. The transmission is done using the ssh protocol, so it is encrypted. By using the free nx libraries from NoMachine, a very acceptable performance in both speed and responsiveness is achieved. Even an ISDN connection runs smoothly.
This makes it is possible to connect your laptop to any computer with the environment, applications, and performance of the remote desktop. It is also possible to have a bunch of computers connected to a single server (terminal-server, thin-client).
Clients are available for Linux (Qt4), Windows, and Mac. The latter two can be downloaded directly as binary from the x2go homepage.
In todays long over due show we interview out very own presenter JWP and listen to his talk given at OggCamp11.
In today's show JWP tries calling in a live over the UK call in number UK: +44-203-432-5879 (The US number +1-206-203-5729) and tells us of a CC-BY-SA cheat sheet written by FossWire.date - print or set the system date and time $ date Wed Mar 7 19:53:05 CET 2012 cal, ncal — displays a calendar and the date of Easter $ cal cal: setlocale: No such file or directory March 2012 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 uptime - Tell how long the system has been running. uname - print system information $ uname -a Linux video 3.1.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 29 13:47:12 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /proc/cpuinfo | head -5 processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 44 model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2600+ $ cat /proc/meminfo | head -5 MemTotal: 1027176 kB MemFree: 111016 kB Buffers: 136104 kB Cached: 173992 kB SwapCached: 7964 kB du - estimate file space usage $ du -ch | tail -1 253M total df - report file system disk space usage $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdd1 28G 22G 4.3G 84% / tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /lib/init/rw tmpfs 101M 632K 100M 1% /run udev 496M 0 496M 0% /dev tmpfs 201M 0 201M 0% /run/shm
In today's show JWP talks to us about portable applications.
In today's show we get proof that Klaatu lured another over to the dark side. So much so that JWP has gathered some resources for you on where you can get help on EMACS they are all on his site at http://jwp1.weeman.org/
In todays show JWP gives us the low down on the Intel Atom processor
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Intel Atom is the brand name for a line of ultra-low-voltage IA-32 and x86-64 CPUs (or microprocessors) from Intel, designed in 45 nm CMOS and used mainly in netbooks, nettops, embedded application ranging from health care to advanced robotics and Mobile Internet devices (MIDs). On December 21, 2009, Intel announced the next generation of Atom processors, including the N450, with total kit power consumption down 20%. Intel Atom processors are based on the Bonnell microarchitecture.
In today's show JWP talks to us about replacing some of his old amd boxes. He investigates what he can get for $250. He heads over to http://geeks.com for a P4 with HDMI out.
In today's show JWP returns with a look at emacs console.
Inspired by episode 769, JWP gives some feedback on Linux Outlaws 215 - Bitcoin Discussion
byobu is a script that launches GNU screen in the byobu configuration. This enables the display of system information and status notifications within two lines at the bottom of the screen session. It also enables multiple tabbed terminal sessions, accessible through simple keystrokes.
In this episode JWP discusses the negativity surrounding the Unity desktop.
JWP talks about Linux in the Enterprise Space espically in relation to ERP (Enterprise resource planning) software.
JWP Aurthor Nano is a lot like Pico which is included as the editor in pine. It uses the Control key to execute commands and is very easy to use. http://www.nano-editor.org/dist/v2.2/faq.html http://www.nano-editor.org/ Also be sure to donate to Wikipedia. Show notes at http://jwp5.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/what-is-nano/
Shownotes from http://jwp5.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/alternative-investing-and-how-the-internet-changes-the-game/
For My hacker Public Radio spot.
Recently, I had a chance to review about 30 years of my investing and savings.
Being a live long member of the save 10% club and having been debt free for a number years I thought I needed a review.
Having been in the military I had picked almost all the wrong kinds of things to invest in in the pre-internet era that one could think of.
A few years ago when Ron Paul was running for President.
I stumbled upon his web site.
Having shared many views with Mr. Paul and him being a small town doctor from Texas. I was very interested in what he invested in.
I read that he had about 50% of his assets in hard assets like Gold Coins and the rest T bills.
Of course he was debt free and owned his home and land out right as well.
I use Etrade and I am slowy moving the mistakes of the Army.
Its just hard to get in touch with folks that deal with paper.
The reason I like Etrade so much is that they show the total loss or gain each investment right away. No guessing you can see it.
You also pay as you go with them and it is very clear what you have to pay in total fee’s.
I like the treasury direct site as well.
But what really interested me.
Is what is coming. And this is the Hacker part of that really says wow.
I have been a user of pay pal for a long time.
I have a German and American account with them and find its a great way to move dollars to euros with out a lot of over the top fees.
Most people do not think about having two types of money but I assure you the dollar is not worth very much today vs. the Euro.
Which is great for American Jobs.
Being a Pay Pal user I a saw this Microplace site they have.
I used my pay pal ID and it worked.
There was no tricks or anything.
You make a small loan to women in south texas or coco farms in the islands and they really pay you back.
I have done it for a few years and it made feel a lot better about sharing my money and getting a fair return.
I also look into owning a share of Windmill or truck or locomotive but the incoming costs are pretty high. About 15K to starting in Germany to own a share of ship or locomotive. I like this because its a set investment a train that works in the Hamburg harbor and its there you can go and see it on your web cam and see it work. It pays back your entire principle over the 30 years of its life and it pays a share of the profit for that year. I have not found very many American investments like that. But have heard that some Oil trusts can do that. Can I have a web cam of it working would be a qualifying point for me.
Well enjoy and thank about it.
Keep it simple if you do save and watch fee’s.
The younger you start the easier it is.
And do not borrow money with credit cards or by car with credit or buy home unless you put 20% down.
Would be the only other advice.
I read book one time about wealthy barber and another about a guy who saved three years living expenses.
I used much from both.
The one that really changed my life was when I had the living expenses worked out.
It changed how I felt about my Boss and what I would be willing do a lot.
The spirit to take chance also came from that.
In any case I am off enjoy and be safe.
first I wanted to share my contact information.
and my rss feed to my show http://jwplinux.libsyn.com/rss
I wanted to talk about two places that really helped me in learning about the command line. Both do not run linux one runs net bsd and the other runs open vms. Both are so geeky you need to beat it away with a stick.
I use really often and have learned so much from the use of sdf public access unix system. It was first done up in 1987 and I really like it. I saw it once in Seatle it is great thing to view. If you liked the old compuserve you are going to love this place. Its free but if you donate I think 10 bucks you get a lot more out of it.
The second place is death row vms I did a pod cast with bev a while back and its agreat place to do unix. its based on open vms which if you can not love it you must hate cute kittens to. Bev has a lot compilers there which can save you so bucks.
Free raid storage at both places.
free email at both places
free IRC at both places#
A lot that geeks like at both places